Z should be up

okay.. . so ive spent like .. i dunno.. 5000 hours of my life where Z is up... (probably more.. pretty much ONLY thing ive done with my life is work on computers, and until Unity Z has always been up)

>>> Z should be up. <<<

the sky is blue, 1+1 = 2, dogs say bark, cats say meow, and Z is up.
it is absolutely AGGRAVATING to me that Y is up...
i try to get used to it, but my brain says no ... lol

and its suuper annoying to import stuff from blender... none of the scripts that supposedly fix it work either..

 

Click the bake axis checkbox

 

in maya and xsi y is up

 

In Autocad I can make any axis up.
And you think "1+1=2".

 

It makes more sense for Y to be up given the 2D features such as UI.

--Eric

 

true, if z was up, the canvas would be in the floor.

 

? in Unity? where? .. i google for it and nothing comes up... in Blender?? .. oh like shift+A .. yeah.. but thats kinda annoying when going thru like 200 meshes

dont care... Z is up... has been FOR ME for my whole life
i never used a program where Y is up until unity... thats all i was saying,
iam aware that some people think Y is up

i guess its not THAT big of a deal...
but seriously, my mind is always like WTF!!?? whenever im thinking how to implement something and then im like .,... .. ooohh yeaaahh... Y is up.. wtf!?

in science Z is up... isnt it...

i dunno. I NEVER heard of Y being up until unity... its just weird

 

.. i was kinda hoping for a response like

"well congrats!! in Unity 5 you can now select Z to be up!"

 

In gaming or computer/animation etc Y being up has always been more common and logical. I think the Z up is more science or architectural thing. You can see it yourself in various programs depending what are they made for.

 

Did you not take math in school? X is the horizontal axis, Y the vertical axis (up).

 

in a 2d plane... like a piece of paper

with a piece of paper, Z then is towards you, which is up, paper doesnt stand on its edge.. it lays on a table

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartesian_coordinate_system
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/z-axis
http://www.math.harvard.edu/archive/21a_summer_06/handouts/coordinates.pdf

and wtf ... this says "photographers coordinate system" Y is up... Z is depth...

but... depth is up/down .... ??? wtf!?

 

Right hand rule
enough said.

 

i guess those people consider paper to be posted on a wall...
which is unnatural... paper wants to gravitate to lay down...

LOLS

...seriously bugs the crap outta me...

 

Whiteboard.

 

X 1dimension ... Y 2 dimension .. Z 3 dimension..

what does 2 dimensions represent? .. flat..
end of discussion

now... how to make Unity natively use Z as up?
would i have to buy the source code? ...

 

In blender. Export -> y up -> bake

 

You can't, so you might as well put the energy that you're currently putting into being bugged by it into getting used to it. Far more productive.

--Eric

 

Where is ISO when we need them?

 

In math class I learned the x is right, y is up and z is forward. This was probably like 5th grade. Where did you learn that z is up?

 

Why is it annoying when importing from Blender? Unity imports .blend files directly and there is no issue.

Z is obviously what gives you depth, so should be the forward direction instead of up.

 

weird i was always told z is up

unity imports blend files to always have -90 rotation on X .. even if i fix it in blender
i seen some scripts to fix this but i guess they were for like unity 3 ?

 

Was it a math setting or a computer science setting? It's hard to believe either would say Z is up, since the first GUI programming you do is dealing with the inverted Y for screen space - but it's still the vertical axis.

Curious. Please tell. Maybe too much time in the blender community?

 

i dunno .. physics class in HS says Z is up...
... never payed attention in any math class lool..

game map editors, wolfET, cod2, morrowind/oblivion Z was up (i spent a ridiculous amount of time making maps for those games lol)
and blender z is up

never took computer science classes... well .. i took electronics classes

.. yeah Z is depth... which would be stacking paper, which would be up

i always seen 2d graphs, in which Y is up.. as .. a piece of paper, so Y is.. not height, but forward
Z is the 3rd dimension (according to alphabet order) .. 3rd dimension is up.. since 2 dimensions is flat, and flat means parallel with earth's ground..

 

Haha oh. Actually, I think I do recall my physics teacher saying z is up... Pointer finger forward, middle finger points inward (left), thumb points upward. Thumb is Z.

 

Unreal Engine is Z up so it explains most of your experiences. Maya, Cinema4D, XNA etc have Y up for example.

 

quake engine... and whatever morrowind is... i guess bethesda's own engine?

 

By now it should be obvious that whatever you call up is arbitrary and there is no "right" way. So, clearly the next version of Unity should have X = up. Then everybody would be equally confused.

Now start arguing about right-handed vs. left-handed coordinate systems.

--Eric

 

lol yeah idk... i just needed to complain about it i guess

likewise i never seen this syntax until Unity

Code (CSharp):

1. Start(){
2.    //do stuff
3. }

i always seen this

Code (CSharp):

1. Start()
2. {
3.   //do stuff
4. }

and comments go here:

Code (CSharp):

1. if(stuff)
2. {
3.      stuff                     //comment
4. }

not here

Code (CSharp):

1. //comment
2. if ( stuff)
3. {
4.  
5. }

 

In Maya you can select what is up..!

 

Unity, Y are you allowing for thread like Z's (for this to work, you must read Z like Canadian).

 

Do you really want to put hippocoder through that?

@CaoMengde777 that weird indent thing doesn't happen automatically in monodevelop for Mac, only windows. I'm sure there's a way to change it, but it is interesting that it's on windows by default. Maybe that's an assumption UT made based on indenting of other windows editors.

As for the comment thing, the comment above the function is reserved for ///. Check it out

Z, eh? I don't get it..

Definitely a step in the right direction... but can I rename the axis? I want left and right to be the A axis, up and down to be the M axis and forward and back to be the Q axis.

 

http://www.ispeech.org/text.to.spee...%20you%20allowing%20for%20thread%20like%20Z's

 

Haha wow, the canadian voice actors are even more lifeless than the american ones. That's impressive! And of course, Japan remains #1.

 

LOL. remember the "Left thumb rule" ?

 

Is that the magnetic field thing I'm trying to remember?

 

They don't call it Y-Depth, for a reason

Anyway I spent thousands of hours of my childhood thinking F was up, as my dad was always shouting at the news "That's F'd up!".

 

depth is down, like down a hole... measure of water on the (Y in unity) Z axis
width is what Y should be... but Z is in unity

and no... like i said, ive NEVER heard of Y being up/down axis until Unity.. lol

but now at least i get it its "photographer axis"
wtf! F photographers!! .. its not hard to do, anyone can be a photographer, you just press the shutter button >< .. idiots!!! (lol i know theres a little more to it, its a joke )

lol yeah the only left thumb rule i know of is for electric motors/electromagnetism

 

People have already named a bunch of apps that use Y up. It's far from just Unity. OpenGL itself uses Y up; this page claims that "most" 3D systems use the same. (Although OpenGL is right-handed and Unity is left-handed.)

--Eric

 

lol on those pictures, i still see Z to be up lols

because, the computer monitor is equal to earths ground... since the computer monitor is a plane

 

Well, clearly you need to get over it and deal with the real world.

--Eric

 

well theyre Fking wrong,
but yeah its not really a huge deal

still annoying how wrong they are lol

 

Make a sound file that says "Y is up" and play it on a loop while you're sleeping. I guarantee that within two weeks, you will want to go out and punch the "Z is up" infidels.

--Eric

 

It is actually physically impossible to deny that y is up in the english language.

Yup. --> phrase for agreement
y-up --> breakdown of phrase into composition

Example:

person 1:"Do you think the y axis is up?"
person 2:"Nope."
person 1:"Are you sure?"
person 2:"Yup." (y-up) perceived as correction and association of y with the vertical directions
person 1:"I thought so."

 

hell when i came to Unity, I was used to Z as well being up because of using 3ds max. That's all I've ever really used growing up, never seen anything different until I hit Unity. It had me all messed up lol. But I still all the time forget to change pivots LOL. I usually remember after I've animated a character, then I'm like F**K!!! lol.

But I'm getting more used to it now lol.

 

No, depth is the length of an object, so.

|---width---| X
-
|
| height Y
|
-


/
/ depth Z
/

 

I mean unity uses the "Left Hand Rule".

 

also

 

skip to 3.24

 

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/depth
2
a : the perpendicular measurement downward from a surface
b : the direct linear measurement from front to back

notice how the definition you say is B

width X , length Y , height Z

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimension
see Spatial Dimensions

y only "appears" "up" on a 2d plane viewed on a wall


... like whatever.. im just responding..