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Your Chances of Success?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Cogent, Dec 30, 2014.

  1. Cogent

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    Lol so true. So many times when I first started developing when I would think there is no way I can do this. Id come across a problem that seemed too hard to wrap my head around. But I'd keep pushing and little by little something started taking shape.

    Now whenever I face those problems I don't even doubt for one second I can't do it. I look at my past obstacles and think how simple they all seem now, yet so impossible at that time. Before I know it I've done it once again. Even if it takes days or weeks of trying the same things over and over while pulling my hair out. Like many things in life it's about how bad you want it and how far you are willing to go. I will never stop until I've accomplished my goals.
     
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  3. Velo222

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    Duly noted. :)
     
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  4. RJ-MacReady

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    What % is "I think I can, I think I can..."... is that like 112%?
     
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  5. Cogent

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    Should be huh? :D
     
  6. RJ-MacReady

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    Also, define success.
     
  7. Eric5h5

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    Success = total annihilation of all your enemies.

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  8. goat

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    Division by zero one can create a lot of success if your a politician or some such sort.
     
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  9. RJ-MacReady

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    What if I create an alliance of all your defeated enemies and create an elaborate scheme to control the world using fear, xenophobia and propoganda?
     
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  10. RJ-MacReady

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    ...That might actually be easier been creating a really really successful runaway smash hit game in the year 2015.

    Perspective, man.
     
  11. goat

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    Well yes since the scheme is already in place, after all what is the instinct to avoid pain and harm but individual fear, xenophobia, and propaganda? We all seem to seek to bend the air that surrounds us to suit us but we should do so as harmlessly and painlessly for all involved as possible. Meanwhile in such a preexisting environment the run away smash hit game of 2015 doesn't exist yet, although there will be plenty of games called that you can bet they probably ain't. If we're talking Beanie Baby popular then we can talk.

    You can minimize a lot of the effect of the fear and xenophobia on yourself by the way mostly by avoiding the mass media and their colleagues in finger wagging, the politicians. Note their fingers mostly only wag if there is money or votes in it so be careful of motivation.
     
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    Umm... yeah, there's a few massive schemes out there. But there's like 1,000 games released per day.

    It's just competition screwing with supply and demand. In fact at this point I think you'd have better luck making money doing anything except games, including selling Tupperware.

    Or creating an evil empire.
     
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    It's a lot like those dudes selling their own recorded CD's on the street. It's a side hustle. Everybody wants a cut, but you can't take a piece of the big guys game or they will come after you with everything they got. So you gotta stick to the corners where sales are low selling inferior product. Everybody dreams of being Scarface or Heisenberg.

    Only instead of most people ending up in jail (for the same trumped up $#!7) they end up in their parents basement. :B
     
  14. goat

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    Dream of being Scarface? Never even was interested in watching the movie which is how I heard of him. Heisenberg I've never heard of.

    I still have a CD I bought in Manhattan for $5 but I still haven't listened to it. It's rap and rap is really, really overexposed as some game genres nowadays.
     
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    Positive thinking is the key. Repeat the following:

    I can do it. I will do it. I can do it. I will do it. I can do it. I will do it. I can do it. I will do it.
     
  16. goat

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    Really that is almost the case in my head as I try and concentrate and it's not really conducive to doing anything a all. :eek:
     
  17. Ony

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    I'm partial to "screw it, let's do it", myself. From Sir Richard Branson, one of my business heroes.
     
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    And that's why he's always nearly going bankrupt.

    He made a billion pounds signing up loads of artists to his Virgin label. Then he squandered all his money on vanity projects like Virgin Airways and this Virgin galactic. The other "virgin" companies are other people's companies that he's leased the Virgin brand to. That's his one good idea. He's a master at spin. Don't believe his hype.

    Another of his quotes: "Easiest way to make a million pounds is start with a billion then start an airline."
     
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    But at least he has fun doing it. Some of us enjoy the challenge and adventure of entrepreneurship, regardless of the inevitable waves of change (riches to poverty and back again). In fact, for a lot of people (myself included), it's those waves that make it all worth it. Not everyone is in business to sit still on their one idea that "worked" and leave it at that, content that the money will always be flowing in. Different strokes, different folks.
     
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    I think most people have learned from BlackBerry by now. When will people stop shaming them? :eek:
     
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    It's a VC conglomerate. Sure they're "other people's companies" in some sense, but I don't think he'd have time to personally run 400 companies...
     
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    Some might call that pragmatic, I call it cynical.

    Disagree, strongly, success can be achieved through alliances, cooperation and mutual interests.
     
  23. Cogent

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    Yes.
    Yes.
    Yes.

    /bow
     
  24. angrypenguin

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    In which case you no longer have any enemies. The set of things which are your enemies is thus empty. So, you could argue that this is just one approach to achieving what Eric suggested. ;)
     
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    And I call it A JOKE. @angrypenguin: well...meh...I was kinda implying knives, bombs, explosions, that sorta thing.

    --Eric
     
  26. Cogent

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    Ok, then I apologize. :D
     
  27. Tomnnn

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    You only mentioned explosions twice. Michael Bay is disappointed.
     
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    I was assuming the knives were also explosive. ;)
     
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    Like, duh? Is there any other kind?

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    <anime>
    Oh, pardon me. I didn't see the red tape around the knife handles.
    </anime>
     
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    Simplified.

    I can't - 0%
    I haven't given up nor died- 100%
     
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  32. RJ-MacReady

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    I've done things I was sure I couldn't do.
     
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    Trouble is with that model is success in one venture often leads to attempts to be successful in another venture and you get access to capital not based on the merits of your new venture ideals but the success of your past ventures.

    Nike as a company is really a big flop with regards to new products except people really, really like that swoosh logo. Huge success based on a swoosh logo. I'll admit it. I keep one pair of Nikes because I like that swoosh logo but I won't wear the shoes because they are too expensive and my feet split them fast at the seems if I use them at all for their advertised purpose. Ahem.
     
  34. Ony

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    I don't see any trouble with that model at all, to be honest. Business happens because people try new things. All of life's successes, in fact, follow a sometimes long string of failures. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
     
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    It leads to exclusionary business practices were you must know the right people to get access to capital and you get excluded.

    Thus, the downward spiral of Department of Defense business interests with access to the capital and the purses strings overpaying themselves by trillions while ignoring development in health, food, clean energy, and public transportation that someone like the average and the poor would more sensibly be interested in.

    Don't worry about those things! If you lay on your couch and play your video games and watch TV they are irrelevant. Except they aren't. Unless the government want to subsidize FedEx to train dieticians to come spoon feed you while you live it up.
     
  36. RJ-MacReady

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    Huh?
     
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  37. goat

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    Plain as the nose on your face.
     
  38. Ony

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    Ok then.
     
  39. Cogent

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    Ok, I think I know what @goat is trying to say, I think, might be wrong though...

    I'll try to illustrate with one of my favorite Monty Python Holy Grail quotes...

    " Oh, come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help! I'm being repressed!" :p
    http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/writings/being_repressed.htm

    just kidding goat ;)
     
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    Knowing the right people made my life easier. Being nice to the head of my IT department got me introduced to the chair and from there one thing lead to another and my IT professor took a day off and I took over the classroom :D

    My future job as a teacher there is so secure that the idea of capitalism being a free market after the big dogs are established makes me giggle.

    Is that what was happening? I couldn't make heads or tails of it! I should get these eyes replaced...
     
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    That's one way to look at it. Another way to look at it is that as you gain the experience that makes people confident enough to back you with their cash, you also build connections with the people who have access to that cash.

    But also, if you know you need to know the right people to get access to capital, and that's important to you, then why is it a problem? Figure out how you can get to know them and what you need to do to make them confident in you, then start doing it. Anything less is an excuse, and...

     
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    Say only those not adversely affected by the work they didn't do. Uh. OK?
     
  44. angrypenguin

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    ... what are you on about?
     
  45. RJ-MacReady

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    I keep reading what he's writing, but I can't make heads or tails of a lot of it.
     
  46. Cogent

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    And with hindsight being 20/20... there are things I'm certain I could've done had I just tried.
     
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