@Ryiah I meant that he said it was not designed to be about multiplayer, that a multiplayer experience is not what people should expect from it. That's what I heard in the last few months anyway. Tell me, what is it that was ever said specifically that the game would have, regarding multiplayer? Avatar visibility? OK, what else? Absolutely nothing! So they failed to deliver the promised avatar visibility, probably because the technical challenges were huge compared to the benefit to the core product. Crime no.1, guilty as charged, and that's it. The other 99% of this game came exactly as expected marketed, which is no mean feat. There's a huge difference between an MMO experience and avatar visibility. If the game was marketed as the next Eve online, and this is what we get, it would be a totally different story.