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Resolved When will the Graph Tools be ready?

Discussion in 'Authoring Dev Blitz Day 2023' started by Catsoft-Studios, Jan 25, 2023.

  1. Catsoft-Studios

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    We've been working with UIToolkit since it was available and it makes creating Editor tools so much easier (can't say the same for runtime UI, but that's another topic).

    We've seen more and more features being added, such as List View, Tree Views, Overlays, ... But Graph Tools have been redesigned at least 2 times that we know (GraphView and GTFO).

    So the question would be: Where is Unity at the moment with this? Do we have a rough estimate to when they will be launched? Will they be as a PM package, or built-in in the Editor?

    Thanks in advance!
     
    Last edited: Jan 25, 2023
  2. Caetleo

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    I have the same question, can we get any response on this issue? Would love to start working on some projects requiring Graph Tools.
     
  3. MadStuntman

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    It is very expected feature for UI Toolkit and it's postponed release make a lot of inconveniences, because it make impossible complete migration from uGUI to UI Toolkit.
     
  4. EricDziurzynski

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    Hello all,

    GraphView is still in maintenance mode and will not be deprecated until we can replace it with GTF so that is currently your best option for any graph based tool development. When GTF is ready to be released as a public API, our intent is to provide all of the features and documentation necessary for rapid development of new, performant tools. We are hopeful that this approach can and will mitigate any frustrations related to rebuilding tools.

    That being said, our focus is for GTF to serve as a common front end UI/UX solution for all node based tools in the Unity Editor and we need to ship at least one of those tools before assessing the readiness for GTF being a public API. We’re currently focused on releasing an update to Shader Graph with GTF as the front end as soon as possible and this will help us assess the readiness of GTF for public use. There is no exact timeline for this release or the release of GTF as a public API. Other node-based tools with GTF as a front end are also concurrently in development.

    Our current approach is for GTF to be built into the editor and available as a public API.

    If you have specific feature requests for GTF or can share how you would most like to be able to use it for tool development, please add your feedback directly to the public roadmap entry for node-based tools creation. This really does help us better understand what features we need to add to GTF and how we need to be able to support, maintain, and continue to develop it after release.

    Thank you!
     
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  5. Baste

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    Is GTF based around IMGUI, UITK, or it's own thing?
     
  6. EricDziurzynski

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    It's based off of UITK
     
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  7. Caetleo

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    Thank you for the fast reply, Great Info. Helps Devs lead towards success.
     
  8. Qriva

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    Sorry to repeat the same question again, but I feel like we could get a bit better answer.
    I understand you can't throw any declarations out of nowhere, but could you give us some rough estimation? Is unity 2023.2 real scenario for the release? or it's more like 2025.3? Or if it's easier, the opposite way - "We should not expect this to be released sooner than Unity 20XY.Z version".
     
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  9. EricDziurzynski

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    @Qriva we're working to ship Shader Graph as soon as possible but have no exact timeframe for that release. Whenever we're able to ship that, we'll re-assess the readiness of GTF for public release. Committing to any timeline at this point, even if it's rough, doesn't make sense for us unfortunately.
     
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  10. Sangemdoko

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    Sorry to bring this up again.

    I'm considering making a graph tool (for Unity 2022 LTS) and I'm wondering what API to use.
    If I were to start making a graph editor with GraphView, how complex is it estimated to be if I were to switch to GTF later on?
    Will it be simply replacing the base class and some of the overrides?
    Or will it be completely different making the port essentially re-writing the whole thing?
     
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