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What does "SRP: Node material requires device state change" mean?

Discussion in 'Universal Render Pipeline' started by zhutianlun810, Jun 11, 2021.

  1. zhutianlun810

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    Hello,

    I am testing somthing on SRP Batching. I am wondering what can cause "SRP: Node material requires device state change"? What does it mean?
     
    zhutianlun810, Jun 11, 2021
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  2. modar

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    We are experiencing the same issue. Some clarification about this issue would be very much appreciated.
    Thaka you!
     
    modar, Jul 4, 2021
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  3. Korindian

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    Seeing the same thing in the Frame Debugger. Can we get more clarification about what this means?
     
    Korindian, Jul 22, 2021
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  4. aleksandrk

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    This means the fixed-function state differs from the previous draw call. Stencil, depth, blending - any of these.
     
    aleksandrk, Jul 22, 2021
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  5. Kogamma

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    I got the same issue as OP, everything batches correctly until I do "material.color = otherColor" in my code. Isn't this still supposed to work via SRP batching? I'm using the default URP unlit shader
     
    Kogamma, Nov 3, 2021
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  6. aleksandrk

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    I don't think assigning a different color should result in a different fixed-function state.
     
    aleksandrk, Nov 4, 2021
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  7. Kogamma

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    I think I found the solution for my problem. I had my scene set up where pretty much the only 2 materials used were using URP unlit as shader, but one of them had render face set to "Front" and the other one to "Back".

    Would this result in a different fixed-function state?
     
    Kogamma, Nov 4, 2021
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  8. aleksandrk

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    Yes
     
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  9. Kogamma

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    Ok, thanks. I used RenderFace "Front" on both materials and they batched correctly.

    What I'm actually using in the scene is 1 material for my floor tiles and 1 material for my wall segments.
    The wall segments are the ones using the RenderFace "Back" material. I tried instead of turning of RenderFace "Back" to just switch shaders and temporarily use URP Lit Shader for the Wall Material.
    Now that of course breaks the SRP batching with the floor material, but instead of having something like 96 batches when using same shader and different RenderFace options, I get something like 3-4 batches when having different shaders AND different RenderFace options.

    The solution to my problem right now seems to be to make a perfect duplicate of the URP unlit shader to have the 2 materials use the "same" shader.
    Is there any better solution to this?
     
    Kogamma, Nov 4, 2021
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  10. aleksandrk

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    Why do you need to render using the different winding order (RenderFace) in the first place?
     
    aleksandrk, Nov 4, 2021
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  11. Kogamma

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    The reason is not important, I am planning to change to not using RenderFace "Back" for my walls. But I do wonder why the winding order breaks batching more than using completely different shaders?

    I'm mostly interested in the inner workings of the SRP batcher
     
    Kogamma, Nov 4, 2021
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  12. aleksandrk

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    Because it's just one of the factors in batching. A different shader is also a state change. Most likely the batcher doesn't take the winding order into account when sorting things in the first place. Or it does, but it's considered less important than other things.
     
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  13. Kogamma

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    Okay, thanks for the quick answers!
     
    Kogamma, Nov 4, 2021
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