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VertExmotion [Released]

Discussion in 'Assets and Asset Store' started by kalagaan, Oct 30, 2014.

  1. Yokogeri

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    Hi kalagaan!

    I've noticed that vertexmotion seems to work perfectly when it comes to bounce/muscle/breast-physics, but would hair-physics be possible to achieve too?

    Here's an example:
     
  2. kalagaan

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    Hi Yokogeri,
    Nice video, the effect is really cool.
    VertExmotion is perfect as a secondary layer of movement, I think that this kind of hair-physics effect could be done with bones for large amplitude movements and VertExmotion for micro-movements, so the animation could be very complex and smooth.
    I'll work on a demo, interresting challenge ;)
     
  3. DrewMedina

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    great asset! I'm having an issue though, when I tweak a physics material thats attached to an object's sphere collider, it breaks the dynamic VertExmotion. a slight tweak to the friction or bounce and the mesh is no longer usable with vert anim. I've tried everything I can to try to reset it, its even broken after a reload. any ideas?

    update: I can temporarily fix the physics tweak by deleting the broken mesh, making another duplicate off a working one and re-applying my physics material. Now it bounces and wiggles.
    So basicically, if I tweak a physics material for a mesh with the vert tech, it breaks. If I reapply to a new dupe, it works. weird. I also see this happen if I change the angular drag value of my rigidbody, even changing it back doesnt fix it. The vert tech breaks and is unrecoverable.
     
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  4. kalagaan

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    Hi HeadTrip,
    very strange, physics material should not interfere with VertExmotion...
    I did some tests without issue.
    What is your version of Unity?
    Could you send me a sample? contact@kalagaan.com
     
  5. flyingaudio

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    Just checking back to see when you think this feature might be added?
     
  6. kalagaan

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    Sorry for the delay :(, but I did some tests and the result is not clean yet.
    I have to reduce the number of sensors to add this feature on SM2 shaders, so it would break compatibility with older projects. I'll probably add this on a more advanced mode using SM3, I want to keep Vertexmotion user friendly, that's why I didn't include it yet.
    I'm also working hard on other features, and I need time for this.
    If you need this for your project, send me an email with your invoice number, and I'll help you ;)
     
  7. kalagaan

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    Last edited: Mar 29, 2015
  8. DrewMedina

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    Awesome!! I'm really enjoying this tech, great work... looking forward to this feature!
     
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  9. flyingaudio

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    Thanks for the preview.
     
  10. IndieAner3d

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    Hiii@Kalagaan^^

    I add your Editor/Extension in my Project.
    I add it on an low poly grass Mesh,
    the same settings as in the PDF described.

    But in the play mode they are no reaction... :--/
    No reaction from other
    rigidbody´s or the player.

    I try to use it for grass/plants
    which collide with the environments...

    I think it´s work
    because the inflate 1.0
    is visible...

    Maybe I just need
    to add/tweak some settings
    to get it work...

    P.S. I add a GIF file ;--)
    P.S.S Have trouble to add the code for custom shader too Oo
    Can you post it as code so it´s easy to copy&past...

    VertExaminationPlantNoPhysicReact..gif
     
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2015
  11. kalagaan

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    Hi,
    you have to add a collider :
    - Go to sensors panel
    - Expand "collider settings" menu
    - Add collider
    - set layer mask to Everything or choose a physic layer
    - Add a collision zone
    - Set up position and radius

    It should work :)
     
  12. IndieAner3d

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    Hmm...
    I have all settings considered Oo
    Maybe I have something overlook oO
    Hmm...
    I have to experiment a lil bit... more... ^^
     
  13. kalagaan

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    If you need help, send me a sample to contact@kalagaan.com ;)
     
  14. IndieAner3d

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    ^___^

    Niceee
    Possible that I send you a sample,
    in the course of the day...

    ^___^
     
  15. SpectralEdge

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    Sorry if this has been asked before but I couldnt ind it in a quick search of the thread. How do you edit the second material on a mesh with vertex motion? I have a dragon and need to edit the wing material, not the base dragon.
     
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2015
  16. twobob

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    gameObject - renderer - materials - list of more than one - there upload_2015-4-3_1-59-8.png
     
  17. SpectralEdge

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    Yes, I know how to edit materials. But how do I edit it with vertex motion? It always selects the first one.
     
  18. kalagaan

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    Hi,
    VertExmotion is applied on all the materials,
    you have to set a VertExmotion shader on each material.
    If you have an issue with your mesh, please send me a sample : contact@kalagaan.com
     
  19. ikemen_blueD

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    any demos on Hairs, Cloth on a real character, not jellyfishes >< ? Anyone tried VertExmotion with Dynamic Bone yet, mind to share some experience :)

    How close can I achieve the "Shroud Cloth Simulation" look, with your VertExmotion?

     
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  20. kalagaan

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    There's other demos on my website,not only the jellyfishes :)

    Shroud is a nice cloth simulator, you won't be able to create the same effect with vertexmotion only.
    I think this kind of FX could be done with bones and VertExmotion, like the hair in the video of Yokogeri.
    I still haven't work on the demo... too much work and obligations :(
    I'll try to find a way to create this FX, maybe with spring joint :)

    You can also try the cloth component
     
  21. ikemen_blueD

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    can you make a demo or tutorial to show the best you could do with VertExmotion for Hair, Cloth movements. Unity Cloth component is quite expensive & buggy, from what I know. Shrould is cool, but around $600, currently not support 64-bit Unity 5.

    What I'm looking for are some extra cool movement effects I could add to my Character with very cheap performance cost, Dynamic Bone for example. Your VertExmotion motions, made by shaders, could be affordable also. I wonder how far I could push with your VertExmotion to my Hair, Cloth meshes, no need to to be same as what Shrould did, because that's impossible with Shader animations. Thanks :)
     
  22. Project-Mysh

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    Hi there ikemen,

    Unity cloth component in unity 5 have been improved a lot. With the new physX engine the performance hit is low (compared to older versions) and there is no buggs (tested on android). Is hard to get the bending result you want, but that doesn't mean "buggy".
    The final results are good and now you can choose what colliders want to interact with it, increasing the performance.

    Simply test it by your own.
     
  23. ikemen_blueD

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    Hi Project Mysh,

    That sounds good. I used to have "fun" time with Cloth in unity 4. That's why I thought Cloth in unity 5, not much different. But, from what you said, I definitely will try it soon. Thanks for letting me know :)

    Btw, anyone successfully combines Dynamic Bone, VertExmotion, and Unity 5 Cloth, mind to share some experience. Simulating cloth in unity, is always in "Black Box" something, hard to find info.
     
  24. hopeful

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  25. IFL

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    Did you ever get around to working on a demo like this?
     
  26. kalagaan

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    I'm still working on this, I want to find a solution without bones...
    I think I'll add a way to link sensors to a parent one, so you'll have a motion propagation along sensors.

    I did a small break on VertexMotion development, I wanted to learn more about physic base rendering and tools like substance painter.
    Here my first PBR model for free :)
    Hornet rifle
    Now, I'll work on 3D models using VertExmotion :)
    So I'll add more features for my own models.
     
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  27. schmosef

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    Wow, nice update! Lots of great new demos. Much appreciated.

    Gave it a 5 star review.
     
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  28. kalagaan

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    Thank you :D
     
  29. chelnok

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    What new do we have? Sorry, but i cant download it and get another distraction, but i'm curious if there is ..well whatever :)
     
  30. schmosef

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    Oh, in case you weren't aware (I don't think you mention it on the asset store) this asset works just fine with Windows Store and Windows Phone builds.
     
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  31. kalagaan

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    VertExmotion 1.3.1 available on the assetstore!
    • New : script structure for compatibility BASIC/PRO
    • New : includes squash deformation FX
    • New : includes 3 more demos (time scale, squash FX, characters)
    • Note : Unity 4 compatibility has been dropped.
    assetstore links : BASIC - PRO

    Note : VertExmotion BASIC users have to upgrade their projects (1.2.x->1.3.1) with the tool included.
     
  32. kalagaan

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    Thank you for the feedback, I didn't test on Windows Phone. :)
    VertExmotion also works on Xbox One, I don't mention it on the asset store because I can't test all the platforms.
    There's no platform dependent plugin, so VertExmotion should work on any platform out of the box. :D
     
  33. kalagaan

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  34. ikemen_blueD

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    I owned VertExmotion, and Unity Pro, can I get an upgrade discount on Level 11?
     
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  35. kalagaan

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    I didn't do the upgrade yet, because BASIC and PRO were not compatible before 1.3.1.
    I'll do an upgrade on the assetstore, but the price will be higher than the current discount of VertExmotion PRO.
    The PRO Version is cheaper than the BASIC :p
     
  36. strongbox3d

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    Hello Kalagaan,

    Does this shader works on XBOX ONE?

    Regards,
    Carlos
     
  37. kalagaan

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    Hi Carlos,
    yes it works :)
    I don't have a Xbox One, that's why I didn't mentionned the compatibility in the description.
    I've already did support for a Xbox One project and the error was the shader file encoding.
     
  38. kalagaan

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    I did a new video tutorial
    > here <
     
  39. strongbox3d

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    Hello Kalagaan,

    So did you fix that error, so I could use it directly in an XBOX ONE project without getting errors anymore?

    Regards,
    Carlos
     
  40. kalagaan

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    I fixed it and I have included the changes in the current version.
    I didn't test on a the XboxOne myself, but if you have any trouble I'll help you :)
     
  41. kalagaan

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    The upgrade BASIC -> PRO is available!
    I've set it to a discount price for the month :D
    Not only for Level 11 ;)
     
  42. hopeful

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    I don't see the upgrade discount (from basic to pro) yet. Maybe it takes some time to move through the system?

    UPDATE: Just thought I'd add that I can see the upgrade pricing now.
     
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  43. kalagaan

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    I've set it in the publisher console on Unity Assetstore.
    There's no admin message or timer, so it should be available soon.
     
  44. hopeful

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    BTW, I haven't tried to add the VertExmotion effect to any ShaderForge shaders yet. Is it pretty easy?
     
  45. schmosef

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    I see the upgrade pricing is available.

    Are there any differences between the regular and Pro version?

    Or is it just that source code is included with Pro?
     
  46. kalagaan

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    Shaders from Shader Forge are very clean, so it's easy to include VertExmotion inside.

    Here a tuto :
    - Duplicate the shader file
    - Change the shader name in the code : Shader "VertExmotion/originals_shader_name"
    - Add include file in CGPROGRAM
    #include "Assets/VertExmotion/Shaders/VertExmotion.cginc"
    - Add the color in VertexInput structure
    struct VertexInput {
    float4 vertex : POSITION;
    float3 normal : NORMAL;
    float4 tangent : TANGENT;
    float2 texcoord0 : TEXCOORD0;
    float4 color : COLOR;
    };
    - Add this line at the begining of Vertex function :

    VertexOutput vert (VertexInput v) {
    v.vertex = VertExmotion( v.vertex, v.color );
    VertexOutput o;



    I'll work on a automated way for this :)
     
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  47. kalagaan

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    Cool, that was not so long to be available :)
    VertExmotion_versions.png
     
  48. schmosef

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    Thanks, I'll buy the upgrade later this month when I do my next round of asset store purchases.
     
  49. ikemen_blueD

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    Me too, I'm going to buy the Pro soon, thanks for the discount offer :)
     
  50. adamz

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    @kalagaan

    This looks great. I'm interesting it using Vertex Motion in conjunction with MegaFiers Wrap. Any thoughts on whether yours will work? I want to add some secondary motion to sleeves for example. Thanks.