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Unity will now ship with Visual Studio set as the default IDE, free to use

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  1. bigSadFace

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  2. Ryiah

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    Unity seems to prefer a uniform development environment across their development platforms. What advantage would Unity bring that is not already provided by UnityVS? You can already use Visual Studio and many already do.

    http://unityvs.com/
     
  3. lilymontoute

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    From the sound of it, I think it's just the bundling of Visual Studio Community with Unity on Windows (instead of MonoDevelop maybe), and the UnityVS package built in maybe?
     
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  4. Ryiah

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    Yes, upon reading again it appears to be tighter integration by including the option to download Visual Studio Community in the Unity installer. I don't think this is outright replacement of MonoDevelop though but rather an automated option that additionally downloads the proper packages for those of us who prefer Visual Studio.
     
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    A more relevant question is why do we have the moustache guy instead of a cute teddy bear as our mascot? And don't tell me the moustache guy is cute, I really don't want to hear it. :)

    Honestly it doesn't sound like much, just an opportunity to click "Install VS" instead of "Install MonoDevelop" when you run the Unity installer. And no official announcement from the Unity side yet.

    But seriously, has anyone ever heard about that teddy bear powered engine that is ranked up there with Unity and Unreal? Seems like they are the real winners in this announcement with whatever publicity they can get from being paired with the other two engines.
     
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    You mean Cocos2d? That's a coconut. And it's probably the most widely used mobile framework out there.
     
  7. Kiwasi

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    Cool, I'll have to investigate. Apparently I've had my head in the sand. :oops:
     
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    It's pure C++ (or Objective-C originally) so it isn't really the same thing as Unity or Unreal. But it is a great tool if you don't mind getting your hands dirty and are doing 2d games.
     
  9. angrypenguin

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    I'd like for VS to stop dropping the project info. It's a great tool as it is, but it's super annoying that I have to keep quitting VS, re-generating the project files and re-opening it. (Admittedly I'm still more productive there than in the alternatives.)
     
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  10. Dave_Voyles

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    Today Microsoft announced that when you go to install Unity, Visual Studio will be the default IDE selected. The Community Edition is included, which is basically VS 2013 professional. If you are using Unity, we also have the free Visual Studio Tools for easier debugging -- it works in the VS 2015 preview now, too.



    If you are using Visual Studio, ReSharper is a great extension to have. Costs $100, but it's worth every penny.

    If you are looking for more tools to work with as a game developer, I wrote an overview of some of the biggest tools last year.
     
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  11. LaneFox

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    Thats super cool! I switched to VS this year finally and I now I can't understand why anyone would use MonoDevelop. Glad to see this happen.

    Unity's reaction
     
  12. Fuzzy

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    That's cool.
    Wonder if one would still have to import that unityVS tools package into every single project or if debugging just works with this.
    Also I've read somewhere on a MS page that the community edition is only for people with less than $1m turnover or profit, not sure, that or last year. Might only be a catch for real professional users who might have VS pro anyway already. :p
    Unity free users wouldn't have to worry because of unity free's limit of $100k already.
     
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    Announced where? I can't find it
     
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    Still waiting for a Unity side announcement on this.
     
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    Wow....every reason I had to doubt Unity's stance as a universal force for good has been obliterated.

    First, they pump tons of energy into tutorials.
    Then, they release super cool new GUI tools.
    Then, Unity5 takes the price tag off of pro features.
    Now, this.

    Nietzsche was wrong. The world is a lovely place.
     
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    I am so looking forward to work with Visual Studio on Mac OS X.

    Oh no wait ... I can't.
     
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    The official announcement doesn't say anything about Visual Studio becoming the default IDE.
     
  20. angrypenguin

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    Today's announcement linked by @Ryiah does, the one last Friday just talked about "closer integration" or something to that effect.
     
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    Yes... curious as to what their "official" solution will be for MacOS users.
     
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    Working only under Mac Osx is a good candidate for using MonoDevelop:p
     
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    Hopefully it will be a checkbox option now on the download/installer as I already have VS installed and they can strip monodevelop and save us some bandwidth. :)
     
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    But that's not official even if the guy claim to work for Microsoft.
    Plus the article seem to imply that it is already the default since yesterday, so If I do download Unity today I should get the VS IDE?
    Without even a new Unity version out?
    The guy clearly didn't understand the real announcement.
     
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    We could always just ask the mother of dragons.

    @Aurore any official word from the Unity side on this announcement?
     
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    someone here maybe knows about this?
    how can I get the syntax highlighting in VS the way Monodevelop has it? ive become very fond of this scheme
    its not Just the color scheme, it seems VS cannot differentiate the colors as much as Monodevelop does.
    I guess its "semantic highlighting" (whatever that is lols)

    its Monodevelop's Monokai that i want..
    VS ---- Monodevelop
     
  27. Kiwasi

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    If you want VS to behave like monodevelop you should just use monodevelop. The reason people like VS is because its different.
     
  28. Aurore

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    We'll have VS available as an option to download as part of our installer on Windows, I don't have a time frame on this yet though.
     
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    You mean, you're an ostrich ;)? Anyway, never cared for VisualStudio, few times I did use it, I absolutely hated the experience. So I'll prefer if option to install MonoDevelop would remain.
     
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    you can have UnityVS regenerate the project files when changes are made in the editor by clicking > Visual Studio Tools > Generate Project Files

    if something has actually changed in the structure, VS will prompt you reload all, ignore, etc....
     
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    I've merged the two threads on this, can we search before creating multiple topics on stuff please.
     
  33. tswalk

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    nvm.. answered earlier.
     
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    For any Mac users like myself who hate MonoDevelop, use Xamarin Studio. It's pretty much the same thing but faster, and takes 5 seconds to set up and use with Unity.
     
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    Will the game still be exported with mono so it remains multiplatform?
     
  36. Tanel

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    MonoDevelop and Mono aren't the same things.
     
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    Yeah I know you can do that. The frustration is when I'm working along as usual, switch to VS, and half of it isn't working, so I have to switch back, do some stuff, and switch again. It doesn't matter that it's easy, it breaks concentration.
     
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    Oh, thanks. Why do we live in a world with so may mono's?

    It's the word for (multiple) software(s), spanish for hands, there's a disease called mono, etc.
     
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    For us mac users, I hope we'll soon be able to use OmniSharp reliably with Unity, it doesn't seem to be quite there yet.
     
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    @Tomnnn , I believe mono is a runtime software to provide "bytecode to native code translation when unity game runs". If mono gets worse then your game gets worse, which is a reality actually. However, monodevelop is an IDE which suits your development purposes; a text editor with all kinds of tools to aid you in development. Your code still compiled with rubbish mono, unless you are targetting IL2CPP supported platform or build plugin to use in unity3d.

    Correct me if I am wrong.
     
  41. Tomnnn

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    You'd know better than I would. I'm pretty bad at remembering names of things, including people. I just kinda use this thing that has 'mono' in it, so it gets stored as mono :D

    I've heard mono is pretty bad on windows, which I'm about to switch to. Any thoughts on mono vs xamarin vs VS for windows? I don't need the bulkiest feature-fat editor there is, I just want it to run smoothly and have a decent degree of [configurable] auto complete.
     
  42. steego

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    As long as you're on windows, use VS, no question.
     
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    What happened exactly?
     
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    For better or [likely] worse, I do most of my debugging by hand. I don't need VS's debugging capabilities. Do you know any C# editor that is light weight with auto-complete? I can give up and go use VS for all things C related, but I'm curious. Is there maybe a visual studio lite?
     
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    At a glance OmniSharp appears to be a light weight solution that is implemented as plugins for popular text editors such as Sublime. It has IntelliSense and Autocomplete features.

    http://www.omnisharp.net/
     
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    Notepad++ super simple, especially if you debug stuff in your mind. not so sure about autocomplete though.
     
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    Haha I've been using that for my ARM programming. I use out-of-my-mind debugging for assembly ;)


    Oh... brackets is pretty.
     
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    As @Ryiah said, omnisharp is probably your best bet. It does look promising, but when I've tested it with Atom I've had some minor issues with things like adding references to the unity assemblies, etc. It also seems it will let you use C# 6 language features, that Unity don't support (unless you're building with Rosetta), so you got to keep that in mind.

    I'd love to see UT dedicate some manpower to making sure it works flawlessly with Unity, because if it did it would be a great alternative to MonoDevelop and VS on both mac and windows.
     
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    I'm pretty sure that's 'manos.'
     
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    I guess my middle school & high school spanish class memories are finally deteriorating. good. I've been trying to forget that stuff for years. I would rather be a monoglot for human languages.

    OH GOD THERES MONO AGAIN!

    I'll most likely look into it. Thanks all.
     
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