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Unity plus license can now access Level 11 ?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by rerwandi, Nov 14, 2016.

  1. rerwandi

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    I'm subscribed with Unity Plus but there is a Level 11 icon under my profile picture.
    I'm sure its exclusively only for Unity Pro license, right ?
    Or am i wrong ?
     
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  2. guidoponzini

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    Me too, I was almost to write the same post! :) I tried to find answers everywhere without success. I remember that when I did the subscription was not possible to go in Level11.
     
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  3. ethanwgross

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    Same here, I thought I won something but didn't find any emails about winning anything.. not to mention, I never win anything... but.. must say, this was a nice surprise and def made me feel like a winner today : )
     
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  4. N1warhead

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    lol I'm going to laugh if they come here and say it was a mistake and take them out your account haha.
     
  5. Acissathar

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    According to the new graphic it says Plus subscribers get 20% off Asset Kits. Maybe this is what Level 11 has been turned into, so you getting the icon is expected?
     
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  7. schmosef

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    Thanks for pointing this out.

    I had a Pro subscription for over two years and last month switched to Plus.

    Level 11 stopped offering me free and discounted assets last month when I switched to Plus but I just checked and it is enabled for me again.

    Either someone made a mistake or they've added it to the Plus tier.

    Maybe a lot of Pro users switched to Plus and Unity realised that they were missing out on revenue from the purchase of the discounted assets.
     
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  8. Kiwasi

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    Shhh. Don't be to loud. If it is a technical error, let's run with it for a few months.

    On the other hand if it's lisencing change, that's awesome. But I would have expected to see an announcement and the requisite forum threads complaining that it's not fair.
     
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  9. rerwandi

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    then i will just crying out loud :D
     
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  10. ethanwgross

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    lmao
     
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  11. N1warhead

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    Haha, sorry guys... It really wouldn't be funny though, it would suck. But if it really is a technical glitch, they really do need to know about it. Because then lots of devs will be loosing out on tons of money + hundreds of more potential customer service requests.

    But at the same time, it would be funny, but not really funny. Just one of them wtf moments that's so stupid you just can't help but laugh lol.
     
  12. Kiwasi

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    Even though I'm a plus subscriber, I agree it would be funny. None of us were expecting level 11 stuff. So none of us really loose out.

    The practicality of removing assets from a dev who has downloaded them would be interesting. Sure they can revoke your ability to download it from the store. But it would be very hard to remove the asset if someone had downloaded it. Best you could do was ask them nicely and hope they are law abiding.
     
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  13. ethanwgross

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    this might just be the game dev in me talking but... maybe we are all test subjects and this is some kind of social experiment?
     
  14. zombiegorilla

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    An A/B test? ;)

    Given the track record of the asset store, the safe bet is most certainly an error. (Or a policy change).
     
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  15. SteveJ

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    I suspect a lot of us Pro users will be switching to Plus. I doubt they'd want to give people any MORE reason to do that... so, I'm guessing it's a bug :)
     
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  16. Kiwasi

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    I'm betting error.

    Policy changes don't get implemented until multiple months after they are announced, if they ever are implemented. And they require at least a dozen forum threads complaining about the change. :p
     
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  17. Moonjump

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    Level 11 isn't listed on the licence comparison page, and I'm pretty sure I remember it disappearing in the licensing changes. It does say Asset Kits are 20% of for Plus and 40% of for Pro. https://store.unity.com/front-page

    Perhaps it is just the terminology that is left over by mistake? Nobody has actually said here what they got when it said Level 11.
     
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  18. drewradley

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    Funny. i had no idea we weren't supposed to be getting it. I signed up for Plus recently and when I saw the "11" in the asset store, I just figured it was supposed to be there. Never bothered to look at the comparisons again. Besides, I'm no horse dentist. Free things come my way, I don't complain or look for a reason!
     
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  19. schmosef

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    What do you mean by "what they got"? Just not sure what you mean.

    To clarify what I got:

    When I had a Pro sub, Level 11 worked.

    Last month, I switched to Plus and Level 11 stopped working. I could still see what was available for Level 11, I just could not download the assets for free or purchase assets at a discount.

    This month, as of yesterday when I saw this thread, Level 11 is working for me again.
     
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  20. sngdan

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    It seems to work for me as well (Plus), but I was strong enough to resist until this is clarified.

    When I open the asset store main page, the 5 free assets show up as the most downloaded "paid" --- I really hope Unity finds a way to compensate those developers, unless this is intended behavior.
     
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  21. Moonjump

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    Nobody had said what they got with their Level 11 through Plus. Was it discounted asset packs (i.e. the announced new system with the old name)? Or free items (the old system)? The replies since my last post say free items.
     
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  22. Kiwasi

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    The old system of free stuff. The new system is not called level 11.
     
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  23. ethanwgross

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    Plus members did not originally get access to Level 11 at all. As mentioned by schmosef, we could only view the L11 page and if desired.. purchase the assets at a full cost. Unless of course they were included in a recently discounted "asset kit" where Plus members could get an extra 20% off, it was the same as holding a personal free license.
     
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  24. marcipw

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    That's great for you Plus guys but not so good for pro subscribers (like me) as I still have two quarterly payments left on my subscription.
    I am going to move to plus as soon as I am able but in the mean time I have been telling myself; 'Yes you are paying more than you need to but you are getting free stuff every month too so suck it up buttercup!'.

    I signed up for Pro via a Unity sales rep about one month before the new Tiers appeared. (Bad Luck, I know) I have asked if I can move to Plus but I am not allowed until the year is up (That is the contract I signed and it seems to be set in stone so...).

    I do love Unity and I do not mind giving them some pie 'n' mash. I honestly really don't mean to moan as I have got some valuable assets from Level 11 but I was probably spending around £100 a month on the asset store anyway (on things I actually wanted and needed).

    I just really wish I had waited one more month though as I am currently paying £361 GBP per quarter and could be paying £126 GBP per quarter on a monthly basis.

    I honestly want to slap myself across the head when I think of how much money I would have saved if I waited just one more month. I could do with that extra cash at the moment too as my third son came along three months ago and I have a mortgage to pay as well as a few clients who think it is fun to pay later than the 14 days stipulated in my invoices.

    /* Rant Over */

    Good for you guys! Snap up those freebies while you can. :)
     
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  25. Fronne

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    Same here, full access to L11 (about one week) and used it two times (both free and discount) without any problem...

    I didn't had a PRO license but was one of the first PLUS subscribers. I tried to figured it out but didn't see any messages in da blogs and this is the first thread I found on the subject. Personally I think it is NOT a mistake but an attempt to sell more Assets, even with a discount Unity still receive 30% of all sold Assets...

    I think giving access to PLUS subscribers is both good for selllers and Unity because PLUS users are more dedicated and serious than FREE users and buy more assets too, just my $0,02...

    I'm not going to grab an asset just because it's free but couldn't resist grabbing the two assets I liked. I spend €13,40 extra, seller, Unity and I all benefit in and this will be the case in the future too...

    There was a Level 11 text link in the account menu but that's gone now, access however is still possible...

    Cheers!
    Franco Palmieri - Fronne
     
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  26. rerwandi

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    aaaannndd.... its gone :(
     
  27. Kiwasi

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    Oh well. It was nice pretending.
     
  28. ethanwgross

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    What the F unity? No take backs! :c
     
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  29. dmonin

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    Same thing. It's gone. Could anybody explain what happens?
     
  30. Ostwind

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  31. Kiwasi

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    It was never supposed to be there. Level 11 access for plus users was a glitch. Someone at Unity discovered it and fixed it.
     
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  32. ethanwgross

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    meh, oh well... nice while it lasted... heres to hoping some one pushes the wrong button again soon : )
     
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  33. rerwandi

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    it's patched at the same time unity updated their assets store and... a few hours before level 11 update. too bad
     
  34. sngdan

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    Crazy how long it took. I actually started to believe it was meant to be...... Haha maybe a sales tactic, the 11 in the icon felt good and is missed somehow :)
     
  35. rerwandi

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    "Let plus subscriber get this month level 11 access so people will go hype about it and subscribe Unity plus too" tactic
     
  36. TLMultimedia

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    This literally was my whole experience (the entire thread).

    Bizarre that its not clearer. I'm a sub 200k sort of outfit at present so Plus is the more realistic subs option for me.
    I would eventually top the 100k turnover but not quite yet so it was the 1st year offer of discounted PLUS which made me leap.

    Pity L11 isn't included.
     
  37. CplMulder

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    Mmmm.... this is indeed an interesting scenario... I too noticed I was eligible for Level 11 discounts and took a few of these up... both free and paid... as I am quite a new Plus subscriber, I just assumed it was part of my Plus subscription that I had not noticed before...

    Like everyone else access to Level 11 disappeared yesterday. The assets I obtained under these offers are still however available on my downloads page, and can still be both imported and downloaded.

    I feel the fact that I still have and own these assets that I bought during this "error" or "glitch" is 100% valid and correct. If Unity try to cancel or claim back these asset purchases I will throw a hissy-fit.. not because I am being difficult but lets just consider the following:
    • The asset store did not give you the discount based on whether you linked to an asset from the level 11 page.... if a product was on a Level 11 special, that is the price that was charged, regardless how you go to that products page... much the same as it works for all the other sales... many users may have bought the assets after finding the asset from a regular search, by browsing a category or following a link from another asset, without even realising Level 11 was involved.
    • The assets that were paid for (although discounted) from Level 11 have been purchased as part of a completed transaction, they cannot be reclaimed or taken back without the option of a refund or paying the difference.
    • The items paid for have been listed on an invoice, many companies would have already put these invoices through their accounting systems.... is the invoice not a binding contract?
    • Usually the advertised price is the binding price in a transaction, it is hard for a seller to get away with advertising one price and attempting to charge another, especially after the completion of a transaction.
    • A user may have (and I did) download assets that I have now spent time incorporating these into projects, spending hours using models in level design, writing code to utilise APIs and changing existing workflows to incorporate and use new assets.... if they were reclaimed now, this would result in a huge loss on our part in the way of time, who will reimburse that? .... have you guys seen my hourly rates ;-)
    • Whilst I fully support and have empathy for the asset developers that may have lost revenue due to this, I definitely think this is something that Unity should sort out with them without penalising the asset buying customers, it was after all Unity's error and therefore their burden to bear.
    So at this point in time there is no harm no foul (yet!)..... but if I suddenly realise I have lost access to assets I have already claimed/purchased/started using... I shall take this up with support/sales in the strongest of terms.

    Have a great gamedevvy weekend everyone!!
     
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  38. Fronne

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    Just posted a new Idea in da Feedback Section...

    New gatagorie for Level 11?

    Voting might help...

    Cheers,
    Franco Palmieri - Fronne
     
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  39. Ostwind

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    I presume the whole Level 11 will be phased out next year since it's been replaced with the asset pack discounts and not mentioned anywhere anymore for new users(?)
     
  40. Kiwasi

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    I would expect so. From what I understand it was a commercial failure. At least in terms of achieving what Unity wanted it to do.
     
  41. Dustin-Horne

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    Me too, I don't have a subscription, just a perpetual pro license but my Level 11 has completely disappeared. It still shows an "11" on my avatar but the menu option is completely gone. I think Level 11 will likely be going away completely.
     
  42. Ostwind

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    I have perpetual too and still works for me.
     
  43. Dustin-Horne

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    Maybe it had an expiration and I pulled the perpetual trigger before you did.
     
  44. dimitroff

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    I switched to Pro and I can not download Level 11 assets for Free, it shows them as free in the listing, but when I go to the asset, it does show me the full price. Used to work on the perpetual license.