Official Unity plan pricing and packaging updates

Unity (U) has seen worse days. It was $25 back in May, and $34 just a few weeks ago. This isn't scaring anyone.
If you look at that rightmost candlestick, you can see people are selling, but people are also buying; keeping it from the fall it deserves.

 

F*** it really dropped 7% in 13 minutes???

 

Because they need to have something free to get people in. But i think they need to give the engine free, and charge for git and other services. so Personal will only be the engine without 5Gb for git and whatever.
IDN but pretty much anything is better that this new pricing model...

 

I don't think this is legal to charge games that were already released. They could as well set the rate to 100$ per install and completely bankrupt all games ever released in Unity! Developers releasing the games did not agree to these conditions and they cannot be forced upon them!

 

Now go look at RBLX. Just algo's doing there thing. Another day in a growth stock.

 

It's sad, I'm just a poor girl who dreamed of selling millions of copies of my game, but now I only dream of 199.999 copies.

 

This does not describe the problem we face here.
If the deal is good and I know how often I need to use my vehicle I could calculate.

But Unity says: You need to pay for everyone looking at your car, ever. Even after selling it.

 

Off we go! Here's to the added value of this idea to your shareholders

 

-7% in 1 hour. A day is more than 1 hour, right ? Give it a bit of time...

 

€35.43 (up 37.27%)

If you're obsessed over "watching today's stock ticker" do put it in perspective:


Today will make a dent, but it'll go up before you know it because stock traders love undervalued stock. The stock ticker has very little relation to the pricing plan changes. It's just an opportunity that others will be taking advantage off once the S***storm flattens out.

 

They are getting there. Some already charge you subscription to turn on heated seats and whatnot. It's not that far away when you will subscribe to even open the F***ing door.

 

Hello everybody:
I have not visited this forum in a decade and I just came for the news (and for the lulz)
And about the news, what will happen with pirate copies?

 

I repeat:
Retroactive TOS change is ILLEGAL.
For current games in development, already out there: DO NOT PAY UNITY A DIME, STAY on your current version of Unity offline.

For any future game:
Use Godot or Unreal Engine.

Do not give anything to those bastard at Unity, they do not deserve this community.

 

I will be pulling all my currently supported libraries and packages for Unity off of GitHub and OpenUPM starting January 1st, 2024, unless Unity decides to roll back these changes to their pricing strategy.

 

They said pirat install count.

 

Nah, it would kill anyone curious about Game Development, they'd just choose Unreal or anything else. No one is gonna shell out Money for something, they don't even know what they are going to do with. Killing curiosity and the ability to tell Stories via Games especially if you're young. So much for "democratizing" Game Development. The mask has fallen.

 

And that is actually a bad idea, as you'll be hurting people who are using them.

 

Unity going insolvent by this suicidal move could save the Unity ecosystem for a better future if the right company buys out what's left of Unity and runs it the way it should have been run from the start.

 

Not always happens that way. Yes investors can purchase when there's an opportunity, let say Apple stock is down but you know Apple is strong enough and you can take the risk. Here Unity has shot in their foot and I don't see investors happy until something big, very big, is done to repair the damage they have done.

 

I see the campfire is still burning, eh?

 

Unity stock price:

 

Just like how Unity is hurting all of their established developers that have been using the engine for ~20 years?

 

Epic might buy them to kill them.

 

What I suspect (and fear) is that Unity already told to big whales studios what he was up to.
There could be a different treatment for e.g. Blizzard ('Hearthstone') and your average Joe developer barely making ends meet.

 

You, you have some stock to defend to avoid losing money, no..?

Today, Unity broke the trust of all its customers ; trust is the thing that drives the financial market. A good bunch of traders might feel the long-term consequences.

And anyway, Unity stock has already been going much much down for a couple of years, so the long-term trend is in the trash, and it's not today's announcement that will make anyone sense the opposite.

So sell your stocks. Fast.

EDIT: here a better view =>

 

Just in time for the start of the new term, no reason left to train students on Unity since they won't need it in a future career. Will have to evalute quickly if we move to Unreal or Godot now, though.
Come on Unity, couldn't you cease operations before the summer break to give me time to prepare new course material?

 

Let's hope this number actually keeps going down.
If they won't listen to the community than maybe they will listen to their bleeding wallets.
I am sure the shareholders are very happy right now.

 

Keep on dreaming. This is the end of Unity, it's a Twitter situation. The dust from this is never gonna settle. This is literally the end unless they change something.

 

I’m sorry if this has been covered but someone just pointed out to me it says "monthly rate" so does that mean for every install over the threshold we have to pay 20cents a month forever?

 

I'm VERY curios with what they come up now.
This could be avoided by asking for input BEFORE making this change!
They just went with the "instead of asking permission, do what you want and then asking for forgiveness".
This doesn't work like this. Unity has to acknowledge it's mistake and do something (file it's CEO, update EULa whatever) so that we can be sure this will NOT happen again!

 

Just want to add my name in opposition to this pricing model. The methods described for determining the numbers of installs do not sound reliable nor transparent. The revenue sharing model has a proven track record, and I'd request Unity to consider that as a replacement for this proposed model.

 

I think what happens is that the devs are now selling the stocks they owned , id not be trumpeting any fanfairs unless th stock goes below 10$ and M$ hostile take over Unity

 

probably already posted -- this thread grows too quickly to keep up, but JIC:
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/ga...-urge-players-to-protest-new-per-install-fees

 

You actually made me post here.... well I was holding out for that CoreCLR update but I think it's time for some C++ or Godot...

 

Whats the over under that this is a massive short play? Any way to figure out if unity execs have shorted the stock?

 

STOP BUYING UNITY STOCKS. LET THIS MF SINK IN

 

I hope you get that the image I posted is a joke

 

No, every new install. So if Joe is buying your game and he installs it and you're above the thresholds, you pay once. You don't pay after Joe's copy unless he uninstalls and reinstalls it or he installs it on a separate device. Every install should be paid once.

 

If your game reached the $200k threshold in the previous year, you will have to pay the 20c install fee for every user for the next year.
This includes existing users who moved home or bought a new PC and cannot be distinguished from a genuine new user.
This includes pirate copies as they cannot be distinguished from genuine copies.
This includes if your game is delisted from online storefronts and people are installing off of legacy media or pirate copies.

Unity will not be motivated to side with you when you tell them 90% of the installs came from pirates - which is not unusual on the PC gaming market - because their primary motivation is what will make them more money.

 

That does not mean that you should join the fun and deal extra damage on top of that.

If you're hosting libraries, someone might be using those for free projects that is unaffected by this stuff.

If you decide to make a point and demonstrate your stance on the subject by taking those projects down, then you will not be helping people unite against outrageous unity behavior. Instead users will dislike you, for interfering with their project. And that will hurt your reputation. Because the problem came not from unity, but from you specifically.

It is a very obvious thing, for the record.

It is your life and your choices, of course, but I wouldn't ever do something like that myself. The best idea is "once you put opensource library up, it'll stay up forever". For, you know, accumulation of knowledge and so on.

 

Hopefully this is pretty obvious based on the 70+pages of reaction but:

1. Charging per install is simply not acceptable to the community/industry. This has to be reversed.
2. Putting the splash screen customization behind a $2k/seat paywall is also not acceptable. Who are you choosing to punish here and why?

There are other engine options out there -- and these kinds of moves inspire community to work on them even harder to avoid being in bed with companies that choose these tactics.

Truly astonishing decision making and some of the worst messaging I've ever seen in my two decades of professional experience. People should be fired -- probably will be - but it won't be the right people.

 

What is the reason for the 7% intraday drop then?

 

I just can't believe what I see.
Congratulations on killing the best engine.

 

i'm not even a gamedev but i made an account just to tell john ratatouille to sit on a dick and spin

 

I wonder who approved this!! Whoever did this, must know nothing about bussiness, trust, proper planning, most importantly lacks logic and understanding of what's obivious!

 

As you can see from this situation, i would not like to experience this again. If our project succeeds its cheaper to dump couple of mil into new engine. I know why and how it exists and ultimate vision behind it, and you can also make quick bug fixes, new features etc.

But as its big task, it would be easier to have several studios or developers who share the same vision and goals.

 

Has this been confirmed by Unity? The wording on that table they released would seem to indicate the opposite to me, after all a one-time fee is not a monthly rate, that table is very confusing. This whole thing really does suck.

 

Charging per install is simply not acceptable, anyone will abandon Unity as soon as they can

 

Someone with Photoshop skills should make a pic of John Stockitanko drinking a can of Bud Light…