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Official Unity plan pricing and packaging updates

Discussion in 'Announcements' started by LeonhardP, Aug 22, 2023.

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  1. Rastapastor

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    Unity needs to be boot to the ground, and when its at lowest value someone should buy 100% stock and make this company back private again and put it back on right tracks.
     
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  2. orb

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    It got nicer since C++14 and on, with all the little improvements that ended up with less typing. And frankly, the most annoying thing with C++ has always been build systems, especially cross-platform, which Unreal hides from you until you need it (mostly).
     
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  3. JesterGameCraft

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    Honestly, the amount of damage they made can't be measured in $. If what you suggest happens, would you ever go back?
     
  4. DwinTeimlon

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    True. I have worked in C++ for about 15 years before actually diving into C#. Feels like good old times. You can use Blueprints for high-level stuff, especially views and effects.
     
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  6. Rastapastor

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    Me? I dropped Unity after SPR bullcrap and how it turned out, since then I understood tehre is no clear tech direction for this engine...UE5 release killed Unity for me completly.

    But...what other path for Unity redemption do u see? For me its only buy out and remove completly the ppl who destroyed this company and focus back on what Unity used to be.
     
  7. sildeflask

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    loss of trust by the devs? murky waters legally? What is backing the stock? Coming to light that the company is not profitable? That the execs know its not profitable and are cashing out? That they have no plan to make it profitable without being sued by other multibillion dollar companies?

    I dont know, this is called FUD
     
  8. pekdata

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    The stock isn't in freefall. I guess the people selling are mostly just the people who "found out".
     
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  9. manutoo

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    According to Unity Analytics, I may have up to 5 _new_ installs per paid customer (ie: after removing the refunded ones).

    =>

     
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  10. Thaina

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    I am speculate that Microsoft would take over unity, make it part of dotnet foundation

    Microsoft had been invest so much in unity. And I don't think they are pleased with current management

    But maybe they are pleased with current stock price. It may just need to dip lower than 25$

    But the best case scenario is, there should be united board of game dev, Nintendo Valve Microsoft and Google and other publisher should be the board director of unity and some similar software. So that we could work hard just to give them our product and let them sell it for profit, instead of Unity trying to do monopolized scheme like this
     
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  11. JesterGameCraft

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    Well that turned out to be a smart decision. Good on you.

    As to redemption, I think you take is the right one. What I'm saying is that even if it happened many people would never go back (like Bud Light thing). It would take a long time for people to start trusting it again. They would have to purge the execs, come up with iron clad TOS with explicit wording that forbids them modifying TOS the way they did, have some kind of delta TOS mechanism that states exactly the changes that are made to TOS when they happen and when you're d/l new version, start fixing bugs and stop releasing half baked features and do this for a few years consistently. I could see that to start rebuilding the trust they've lost. I doubt this will happen though. Perhaps if someone buys them like you mentioned, but what a mess they would be inheriting.
     
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  12. Alewx11

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    The way it hovers around the 33$ is kinda suspicious of just that.
     
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  13. ryanzec

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    Anything interesting data point, Godot donations:

    July 18th
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    Sept 12th
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    Sept 18th
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  14. Rastapastor

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    Dont get me wrong I feel extremly bad for any devs that worked for some many years in Unity and are deep in the project production...this situation is definetly stresful for u all.
     
  15. JesterGameCraft

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    If MS bought them I wonder if the support for Mac/iOS/Android/Linux would suffer. As to Nintendo, Valve, etc. I can't see that happening. Each company would have to have a large stake in the company. That's just not how things are done.
     
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  17. CloudyVR

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    More likely Zuck would buy up Unity as he tried to do before, when he attempted to monopolize VR
     
  18. MisakiVanilla

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    target creator user for the fee is a small of users.

    I'm making a Free WebGL game
    Erasing the splash logo with Unity Plus

    Unity has removed Unity Plus($40) plan!
    Only Unity Pro($185) plans can remove splash.

    If want to remove the splash to speed up the display of free games, will be charged $185 per month.

    Unity increases price from $40 to $185 for splash removal feature
    Price increase of more than 4 times

    Why?
     
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  19. blackbird

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    it's the worse scenario . microsoft bought simplygon kicked out indies , obliged everybody to login using outlook/hotmail login , made it too expensive
     
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  20. Thaina

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    I don't think so. The stock price reflect the management problem. The faster the stock get so low, the CEO and board director will be the one responsible for it before it affect employee. The stock crash make opportunity to let people who want to invest in unity acquire it and become board director. Especially if the condition of people selling stock is because the board director is the cause

    This maybe one and only chance for unity to be released from mismanagement. It need to crash immediately so some other company can pull it back

    And if it crash low enough. That means game company who need unity might be able to buy it and become shareholder
     
  21. boyaregames

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    32.7$
    Here we go
     
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  22. skidvis

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    Looks like the news finally hit shareholders.
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  23. JesterGameCraft

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    I hope that's how it plays out. Definitely one possibility.
     
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  25. JesterGameCraft

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    They waited too long without saying anything. Probably wanted to see what the market will do on Monday. Now they got the answer.
     
  26. kjorrt

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    Am I reading this right? Has Unity stock dropped down more than 10% now?

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  27. Rastapastor

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    Yes but Unity was at lowest 21$ per share...so its faaaaaaaar from doom and gloom :)
     
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    View attachment 1306550
    I was joking with a touch of reality, and it looks like I was right.

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  29. ryanzec

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    Yea, bevy is what I am learning now since I am not worried about releasing a game now or really every (been a hobbyist for 15 year without really releasing anything major) but I have wanted to look at Rust for a little while now.
     
  30. Thaina

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    I have seen dotnet itself working very hard to make dotnet be cross platform as much as possible. People making app and game in any platform will profit microsoft

    For google, nintendo, and valve, I think they would profit from people making game for them to sell. Both platform have large portion of their game using unity. And being threaten by developer that their popular game need to be taken out of store from the stupidity of game engine should be their concern
     
  31. Dommo1

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    This is what is blowing my mind. They just lost like $1.4B (and could keep going) where as if they straightened all this out by Friday instead they wouldn't have.

    Just casually taking the weekend out to think it through.
     
  32. fullmetal74

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    unity did more to godot than godot 4 did to godot.
     
  33. JesterGameCraft

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    I don't trust MS that much. I would be in their interest to invest more in support for their platforms (Win/Xbox). I'm not saying they would drop support for other platforms, but I'm wondering how committed they would be to the other platforms, that all.
     
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    Their thinking process just got null exception and just F*** crushed
     
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  38. MoonbladeStudios

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    I didn't pick part of you posts. I delete the majority of it because it would took a lot of space.
    Sorry if you got this impression. That wasn't my intention.

    But what narration?! If I (partially) don't agree with you it doesn't mean I have a narative. We are in the same boat here!
     
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  39. tsibiski

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    This is likely a response to their tweet yesterday saying they will make changes to this policy. Once that happened, it suggested to the market that the massive income boost from this policy might not come. That coupled with the decline in income from the backlash makes Unity look unhealthy. But if they'd stuck to their guns, I'd be willing to bet the stock slowly crawled upwards some.

    The stock market is not the open market. What us devs and customers of Unity roundly freak out about does not necessarily bother stock holders; especially the largest holders. We of course can have stock and suddenly sell it all, but we don't have anywhere near the stock holdings of the big players.

    What those massive stakeholders want to see is a return on their investment. They don't care if the company is roundly hated. Take EA. Nearly no gamer on Earth likes their constant onslaught of microtransactions and loot boxes. But shareholders LOVED it.

    People who draw parallel relationships between customer opinion and stock market reaction are just not aware of how the stock market works. Another example: The economy struggled mightily throughout the pandemic, but the stock market skyrocketed to all time highs. It's just a completely different animal to the open market.
     
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  40. pekdata

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    They are not backing away. This is their long term plan. They still think they just hit an unexpected bumb on the road.
     
  41. jh2

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    I think the smartest move for other players in the industry, such as Microsoft and Meta, is to invest heavily in the Godot engine. This would ensure that developers always have a tool that won't disadvantage them in the way Unity intends to.
     
  42. Lurking-Ninja

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    Yeah, but guys, be careful if your dream comes true we will be in even bigger S*** because the ironSource asshats will take over completely.
     
  43. Golstar

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    .NET works perfectly well on linux. Microsoft is longer all about their OS. I suspect at some point Windows will end being a Linux OS under the hood (it partially is already).
     
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  44. Martin_H

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    I don't get why y'all are celebrating minor percentage dips in stock price when this is what their chart looks like at full scale:

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    It's still considerably above its all-time-low. Company stocks are never a super stable thing. I'm surprised it's not going down much harder.
     
  45. blackbird

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    this was on twitter i don't know if it's fake or not , if it's true , then he still in denial
     
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  47. Ng0ns

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    For comparison though, shares were almost at 20 dollars in nov. 2022.
     
  48. Nikita500

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    people like chicken without head. they want change engine to super open source . and pay in the end 20-30 % no matter what to google or steam o_O.
     
  49. jh2

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    I am shocked that one of the founders of Unity is so completely out of touch.

    This wasn't what I was looking for.

    I was hoping he would say something like: "I am sorry we tried to stab everyone in the back by implementing an unethical retroactive pricing scheme that represents a breach of contract with all of our developers."
     
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  50. giving_up_unity

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    WOW

    THANKS UNITY, YOU KILLED THE ONLY SPORE ALTERNATIVE WE'VE SEEN IN YEARS

    F*** YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    And, you know what else Unity?

    I stayed up ALL night and learned GODOT, I got spinning cubes with pictures on them communicating with a score board that plays ding sounds when I hit a button!!

    THATS A GAME, THATS ALL YOU NEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeed HEHEH EEHEHH HEHEHEhHh EHHEHE ...

     
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