Official Unity plan pricing and packaging updates

Well...

 

Chat-GPT and other code-specific AIs can really help with the port process.

 

going back to xna in monogame , never should have left. Silk.net looks interesting, https://dotnet.github.io/Silk.NET/

 

Maybe we can extend that analogy to agreeing that its bad to go to the bakery where they keep adding glass to their cakes.

 

I'm going back to Flash.

 

are you aware of the list od developers with succesful games running away from unity?
i was trying to make others understand that you are simply confused, but that is clearly not your case. While you are trying to make us belive that this is ok, clearly people can't stand you, don't try whatever you are trying xD

 

Oh boy do I remember the Poll Tax, the demonstrations and marches, demonstrators getting charged by police on horseback making National TV news and of course my own experience putting me into debt for the first time in my life, actually a debt cycle where my pay as an Architectural technician would just about pay of the last months debt. Not long after followed by the early 1990's recession.

 

Oh, i am happy that this crisis in the world of game dev was only a "confusion"

 

Have you seen the 2D ECS-based game engine built on top of MonoGame?

https://github.com/isadorasophia/murder

 

literally hahahaha

 

I must respectfully disagree, it is entirely possible people will be fired, or forced to resign in the higher ups. You must understand, John Riccitiello, the CEO of Unity, was forced to resign from EA after he ran EA in such a way as to make it one of the most hated companies in the world which resulted in poor financial results. Keep in mind, this guy is SO BAD that for the game Battlefield he wanted to charge people $1 per reload of the players gun AFTER the player was invested in the game after say 20 hours of play.

And what they did with the TOS change retroactively? I won't go into much detail, it's been discussed to death, but the short of it is it was likely illegal. This makes these execs not only a financial liability for Unity, but a LEGAL liability for the company as well. The shareholders should be outright demanding John, and the execs that pushed this disaster to resign, immediately before they get Unity sued into oblivion because if they don't, the shareholders all stand to lose everything due to their next set of bad decisions. Yes, it's that serious.

 

They finally realized what we all knew on day one: they can't pull this off. Legally, technically, PR-wise, just too much of a war. Too many loopholes in the policy to actually get any significant cash out of it. If a game makes millions, just make sure to create a separate publishing company and their house of cards just crumbles.

 

I'm aware of a couple of emotional unprofessional Tweets that are completely noncommittal and don't indicate any kind of trend at all.

 

a couple?

ok you definitely know that is not the case and you are just trolling.... ignored

 

@LeftyTwoGuns Here's an account reposting the devs who are making statements about this. https://twitter.com/F***edByUnity

[edit][ eh.. stupid forum changing a URL.. figure it out or search for account named "Game Studios Disappointed By Unity"

 

he knows, he is just trolling

 

Don't F***ing do this again. Installation fee? F***ing out of mind?

 

The least you need to do to regain a little trust:

• Fire all management and board members
• Apology to all developers
• Get rid of Ironsuck
• Revert everything you did since 12 Sept.
• Recover your git TOS and never touch it.

We are not going to let you off the hook for this!

 

If you don't mind sending a copy of your private code to openAi.

 

Also I'm gonna be real about Godot and the naysayers going "oh nobody serious would use that engine."

For the vast majority of games? Godot is fine. In fact, for 2D games I'd even go so far as to say it excels. Its true problems start to show when you start getting into anything that requires even intermediate level visual effects or when you want to start targeting consoles and, in the most recent version of the engine at least, iOS if you're using C#. You can always use The Switch is still a pretty decent market for indies and not being able to target consoles easily is a pretty big problem.

 

I’ve been following this one and genuinely find it interesting. It ticks almost all the boxes for me. I’m not sure if this works on mobile platforms though.

Might give it a try if I decide to move on…

 

still doubling down lol..

 

We wish. In reality, post-IPO Unity Corp. is all about Ironsuck and the new board members and monetization. Per this article, Unity is [no longer] a game engine company that provides operating services. It is a mobile F2P services company that also provides a game engine.
https://www.gamedeveloper.com/blogs/unity-s-just-not-into-you-indie-developer

 

Looks like they're going to stick with the runtime fee, so I guess it really is over.

 

If you've ever built and distributed a project with the Mono backend you've already given your code to the world.

 

I think most of us knew something stupidly greedy like this was just a matter of time but still hoped for better outcome. Oh well.

 

Well, it seems like they are on Australian time:

Editor’s note (Sept. 17, 2023): We have heard you. We apologize for the confusion and angst the runtime fee policy we announced on Tuesday caused. We are listening, talking to our team members, community, customers, and partners, and will be making changes to the policy. We will share an update in a couple of days. Thank you for your honest and critical feedback.

 

Strong-Armed by Unity.

 

That's quite a long way to flee to avoid us.

 

As a software engineer in a mobile game studio, there is a moderate chance that we may drop Unity (I do not hold any executive powers of the decision making).
Considering the risk, I have started the process of refactoring and scrubbing my company's libraries of UnityEngine references and preparing the porting process to either Godot or any other engine that handles the export into both xcode project and android project.

Current Unity projects will still go through(sunken cost), but new projects, starting from end of this year, will most likely not be on Unity.

 

Yeah there's no real going back unless another company with at least only mildly evil heuristics buys the engine but I'm not sure any company with the ability actually has many incentives because people switching engines doesn't really affect them that much in the long run.

 

So long as the people that came up with this stupid idea and all those that approved it remain, there can be no trust.

 

they do not need anyone's trust because no one will be here in 1 - 2 years xD

 

Cocos2D =)

 

There are some local models that work great with coding, but you'll need a beefy GPU for any type of speed. Alternatively, there are also cloud-based GPU alternatives that can handle larger models (I use Paperspace at $8/month). Cheers.

 

Bastard of the Year in gaming

Just fire the stupid man ,solve all problems

 

We really need laws against these practices.

Buying an established useful company and using it as leverage to force someone else to share their income isn't a business model, it's extortion.

This isn't just bad for us, it's bad for the economy. It's destroying wealth instead of creating it.

 

I'll definitely consider running an AI locally but I don't think we can trust any cloud based AI services.

To keep things on topic, just look at how trusting unity is backfiring on us. Imagine the damage when your AI service is turned against you.

If there is a lesson to be learned here, it's that we need to own our data and software licenses.

 

Still no feedback other than telling us that WE are confused? F*** you Unity!

 

Only way Unity can gain our trust back is by firing this S***head of a CEO that caused all of this as well as his cronies as well as reversing this policy change in completion. Sure ask more money, increase your prices, be profitable, but do it ethically you c***S. JR, you "IDIOT"

 

Yes but that's only true for the gameplay code.

A project's value is also all the level design and development tools that aren't shipped in the final product. That's where I have the best trade secrets.

 

If I am developing an app for the government and my revenue is below 200k but the government revenue is in billions, do I fall on the 200k category still?

 

>MFW when this could just be a (very stupid) ploy to make Epic pay for the heist of stealing Fall Guys from the hallowed halls of Steam (planned by a 3 y/o)
lol

 

I'm very disappointed and angry.
They'll just try and get away with it even though we're all against this whole new plan.
If Unity needs more money there are other things Unity can do to get it. Something that doesn't potentially bankrupt people.. Or bring such high costs to studio's that already can barely survive. revenue != profit. Installs != revenue.
None wants to be hyper focused on their finances, they just want to make games.
Cutting off Unity Plus is already a stupid decision. If you want more people to be on Unity Pro, change the balances of when someone needs a Unity Pro license. Or create additional license steps because going from Plus to Pro is a huge step financially.

In my honest opinion, the CEO needs to step down. Let someone else be in charge, someone with a moral compass because this ones broken. Preferably a developer, someone who makes games at heart.
Even then it'll probably be too late since the damage is already done. Lots of people are leaving Unity for an other engine.
Trust is broken.
You may have just put many people out of a job due to this stupendous decision. It's shaking up the whole industry. Who in their right mind would not second guess this?

 

Forget about him; he's still wearing the cologne that makes his contrarian nonsense stick out more - Eau de Dunning-Kruger.

 

Be aware that they are not even supporting joysticks/gamepads. As I said in previous posts, this engine is mostly used in engineering.

 

The "we're talking to the community and customers" is a flat-out lie. I don't see an email in my inbox. I don't see anyone from Unity talking to me in this thread (the only place on the forums we're allowed to discuss this). I've had serious pricing problems ever since perpetual licenses were effectively thrown in the trash years ago (long before this). Haven't heard a peep, or a single person ask me for my input.

Do they seriously think they can just say "we're doing this" and nobody will notice that they aren't actually doing it?

 

PUBLISHERS ARE CANCELLING DEALS WITH NEW UNITY GAMES

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