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  1. RickyX

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    I don't know if this is a right section to post on, but I gotta tell you this.

    I got a friend that found pirated unity pro version, he's a really good friend to me, i wish the best for him, but this what is he doing is just wrong...
    He's making a game, it's going pretty well for him, his game is awesome. It's gonna be for androids, he want's to sell it on Play Store.
    But with unity cracked... I'm always telling him that is a bad idea, but he just tells me that when he gets money from the game, he'll buy a real unity legaly, two times if he needs to, but right now he don't have much money to get it... So, what do you think, what will happen to him if he sells the game ? Is unity team gonna do anything about it ? Thanks.
     
  2. hippocoder

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    He had better because Unity can tell a cracked version from a normal version :) You can also subscribe to unity for a lower price if money is the issue.

    What's stopping him from releasing his game with Unity free then using the money from that to get Unity? It's what most people do. If you can't make a 1 month game that generates 1.5k from unity free then you're not really in the right business.
     
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    He just wants the pro features, he thinks that none will buy a game if it doesn't have good graphics, and he also told me that 80% of gamers are just after graphics... I think that's not ture, what do you think ?
     
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    The Google Play store has all his details. Once Unity picks up the title was released with a cracked version he's going to be in a lot of trouble.
    Google and Unity don't take piracy lightly.
     
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  5. RickyX

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    That's what I tought too... I gotta stop him, anyway, in what kind of trouble exacly ?
     
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    Kind of like a criminal record and possible imprisonment trouble?
     
  7. JayJennings

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    Nothing will happen to him, stop fretting (personal opinion, not fact).

    #1 - The chances of him finishing his game are probably 0.0001%

    #2 - The chances of Unity sending the Copyright Police after him are probably about the same.

    I'm not saying they don't care, but I doubt they care enough about one guy to go after him. If he's hosting a cracked version, that's a different thing.

    As a decent human being (I'm guessing here) you have the responsibility to tell him he shouldn't be violating copyright. Then your responsibility ends. So if you've done that, move on.

    Jay
     
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  8. RickyX

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    Hmm, well i gotta tell him that, not sure if he's gonna listen to me, thanks anyway !
     
  9. RickyX

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    Well we do live in a poor, small S*** country called BiH (Bosnia and Herzegovina), so yeah, the chances of police are small, but still worried about him, I gotta stop him... And why do you think that the chances of finishing the game are 0.0001% posibble ? There's lots of good indie games out there, that really made it.... And also, if his game really made it, then the police will go after him prolly, and he will have a real license by that time, so... I'll do anything to stop him, if i can't i won't report him or anything, ofcourse i can't do that to a good friend of mine.
     
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    I'll be frank here, and no offence intended to you, OP, ... there have been so many "my friend is thinking about pirating unity pro" questions in the past that almost every1 (maybe even UT) assume/even know 'for sure' that the "friend" is imaginary.

    So people get a good laugh and reply "YOU can just use the Free".

    I'm still in the learning stage, and publishing something phase is still quite far from me. And my Country is 1 of the LEAST developed, and remote, where a software's copyrights are a joke.
    Seriously, people SELL pirated stuff in CD/DVD, and even with crack/keygen for 50. And that works the same as it would if you bought the legal/original copy for 500.

    Still i use Unity Free, and i am thankful to UT for Unity's Free version

    Low chance of getting caught does NOT mean you should/can use them. Use the Free version, earn and purchase a legal PRO copy

    You dont always need the PRO version and also, there are always other ways you can overcome those limitations in the game, maybe via alternate design
     
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    Just thought I'd say you can't exactly convince a man to stop something he refuses to stop. Anyone (including police) can try to convince him to not pirate unity, but the decision to not pirate anything is only going to come from him. Basically, if he wants to change, he'll change but if not then he never will.
     
  12. RickyX

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    Nope don't think i'm using the pirated one, if i do use it, i'd just read other people's posts, becouse there are answers already. Think whatever you want, if i need to prove it i'll do it. And I hate when people judge if they didn't see anything, so please don't say that. I posted this becouse mine is diffrent.
     
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  13. RickyX

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    Mhm, thanks for replying, i think you're right.
     
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    While I don't actually care about piracy in general, I still think you're making a huge mistake regarding graphics. If it doesn't play well people won't care about you or your game. Because there's no way on earth you're even going to get within 20% of triple A's quality. So you need an ace in the sleeve, and that just happens to be gameplay.
     
  15. RickyX

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    Well this generation of gamers care alot about graphics, i hate that, but it's just like that.
     
  16. OmniverseProduct

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    I think the reason for that deals strictly with the fact that you have to have certain visuals to go by before it'll work. You can't have this black block moving around in a field of nothingness and expect people to understand what you are doing.
     
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    You don't need Pro to make good graphics. Quality artwork with the right skills done by someone in Unity free can make a game look 10 times better than someone with Unity pro without the artistic skills and direction.
     
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    My point is without the same budget you're going to have twitchy cubes bathed in glorious lensflares. You can't actually match AAA or come within 20% of it without the budget. It's no use having depth of field and post FX if the art can't keep up with the engine.

    Therefore if a gamer IS going to purchase based on visuals, it's going to be battlefield 4 and not your game. So therefore, you need excellent gameplay to compensate.
     
  19. RickyX

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    Haha, yeah, thoose who want to play a game with good graphics will take BF4 prolly.
     
  20. RickyX

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    Well i do know that. I'll talk to my friend about all this, and i'll try to make him continue that project on free one.
     
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    Hi
    ive installed unity 4 and trial pro for 30 days? just now!!!! Im missing the terrain and the tools bar at the top of my menu what do I have to do to get this?
    paul powers....
     
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    It has moved. There isn't a separate menu for it anymore. It's in either GameObject or Component (I think Component), can't remember off the top of my head.
     
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    That's what I'm doing. I'll release my game in Android with the free Unity and when I've had enough income from ads I'll buy Unity, make new additions to the game and then drop that one on the Google Play store.

    Also, why doesn't OP's friend use the 30-day full version of Unity when he's about to release his game? I figure that should work just fine as well if he wants to ditch that Unity logo at start...
     
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    So, what are your thoughts about using a cracked version to develop, then buying the appropriate license before releasing? That's what I did, then I found a bunch of GPU stuff I needed was missing (though i think it has been added since) and switched to XNA. I also did the same with some art assets, which I have since purchased.
     
  25. OmniverseProduct

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    Cracked is still cracked regardless if you bought a legal version later or not.
     
  26. Graham-Dunnett

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    Because (a) that's not permitted, and (b) publishing a game with "made with the trial version of Unity" written onto the window isn't a good marketing point. The 30-day trial is provided to allow people to evaluate Unity. If you publish a game, then your evaluation has succeeded and you are obligated to purchase Pro.
     
  27. QuA5aR_17

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    seriously?! you can make that much, i think i need to get in a company but i dont know who to go to
     
  28. Yash987654321

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    Well same case with one if my friend. I showed him that how awesome unity is and after that he downloaded a pirated copy. I told him to take a free copy from me but he said he don't wont free version he wants pro. I thought he would never able to learn it so I left it. A few weeks ago. He learnt many things and he downloaded a bundle of asset from torrent. He made a game using it. And he is planing forward to release it.
    Any suggestions
     
  29. Graham-Dunnett

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    Tell your friend to make sure it's impossible to find his game online. If our legal team find it they'll help your friend pay for the pro version he used but not bought.
     
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    OK I will strictly warm him but my questions are.
    How will you get to know that he has published it with pirated license
    Will you only make him pay for unity pro or take any strict actions.
    He has used many pirates assets what about them
    And what will happen if his game dose not earn much
    what will happen if he do not have enough to pay the pro version even after selling the game.
    And the last one. Can he distribute the game as freeware
     
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    1. We'll know. We have a database of people who have purchased Pro.
    2. Depends.
    3. We'll let the authors of the assets know, and help the take action. If we think your "friend" is abusing us and asset store vendors, then we'll take as much action as we can.
    4. Not our problem, right?
    5. Your friend can pay his debt over time.
    6. Well, yes he can distribute his game as freeware. In the same way that we have a version of Unity we charge nothing for. If he uses Pro, it's not up to us to decide if his game is free or purchased. We'll still expect a person who's published a game with Pro to have a legit license.
     
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    I doubt they care enough about people who have Unity accounts and CGPersia accounts.

    Oh, wait a minute...
     
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    Thanks Graham Dunnett. I will ask him to not publish his game. I will make him read this. But my last question is will he able to publish the game he build right now in pro version after he buys the original pro version
     
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    Will he be able to publish the game he build right now in pirated pro version after be buys the real pro version?

    Yes.

    (I fixed your mistakes in your question.)
     
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    thanks and can he publish the game first before buying to earn money to buy pro (He is not soo rich)
     
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    First buy Pro then publish with Pro, not the other way around.
     
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    I stole a Gallardo from the local Lamborghini dealership. They don't know it was me. I am going to charge people $100 a time to have a little test drive in the car. Once I have earned enough to pay for the car, I'll go to the dealership, tell them it was me, and hand over the money. I am sure they'll be okay with that. Right?

    I have a vague idea that legally I am supposed to buy the Gallardo first.
     
  38. Yash987654321

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    Ok I will strictly warm him. Thanks for help Happy new year
     
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    By the way I read somewhere in china too much piracy and u took advantage of it and made profits from asset store is that true
     
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    lmao I like you,
     
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    Not sure I understand the question. What's the link for the article you read?
     
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    Ah okay, yes, that's from 4 years ago as we were starting to build in Asia. Piracy is a continued issue in China.
     
  44. Yash987654321

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    oh too bad. So have u any plans to reduce privacy in China. And I don't understand what is going in using free version
     
  45. hippocoder

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    Give it a rest.
     
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    I think we've discovered and learnt together.
     
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