Discussion These assets are too suspicious

https://assetstore.unity.com/publishers/77913

I found those in asset store and they look great.

Very high quality animations with massive variations.

and they published it all in just few months?

Plus
- They are not using female rig for female animations.
- The profile logo is too rough?
- It's not getting popular despite it's quality, because most people think it is suspicious?

I know it's hard to say that they 100% pirated,
but it looks really suspicious to me.

Unity, please investigate them.
Thank you.

 

If you have actual evidence that these are pirated, just report the asset store page. Otherwise this is you just speculating because you have a bad feeling.

 

Don't find it suspicious on first sight. The description gives a reasonable explanation why they can make such high quality animations, and they probably just polish them up for release not actually making them in between individual asset releases (plus variations with time it takes for individual assets to get approved including individual rejections due to formal issues or whatever).

If they were published very recently a two-digit favorites count is actually not bad but popularity ranking may suffer due to the high price point, and I believe number of sales (or revenue) are part of the calculation of the "popularity" value.

I also wouldn't expect animators to be particularly great at making logos.

 

I'm not telling it suspicious lightly,
I checked most of their work and I can say it is 'Production Level'.

Those are made with specific needs and game plan.
not just small studio can handle.

Yes, they could cancel their project and just decided to sell its assets.
But with its quality and variations it ain't be a small project.
For that case, should be investigated because they might have legal issue.

Despite all that, if it is really legit.
I will gladly purchase those.

 

WTF? No, they shouldn't be. If it was true, you should be investigated too, because you might have legal issues.
What evidence? Do I need evidence? Why? You didn't bring up any either. None. Zilch. Nada. Null.
You are only saying you don't believe they can have this many animations released in this time period. But why? Do you know anything concrete? Do you know they didn't have these before? Besides, people hire other people all the time. I alone maybe not capable of releasing a giant library in a month, because I simply have no enough time to write it and all, but if I hire a couple of people, we could get it done. And none of this is your business. It doesn't make it suspicious.

You're simply paranoid. (Keep in mind, I do not judge whether or not they are selling original animations, I am simply saying we have no reason to believe otherwise)

 

Even if, nothing is going to happen.
We had an ex-employee sell assets from our project in the store.

We sent proof to unity and lawyered up, turns out the legal system was faster than unity to force him to take the assets down and the lawyers ain't fast.
His account is still up selling other stuff, they don't care.

 

Seeing as there are a number of AI to animation packages out there already (including unity's own in development one they showed), I wouldn't put it outside the realms of possible to create 1000s of animations with a small team very quickly.

But to be honest, for a team of 3 animators especially if they are skilled, its also not outside the realms of possible just doing it the old school way.

So yeah I agree, paranoia

 

These are production assets from a game 100%.

I would bet that op is correct and these are just straight ripped.

 

I'm not aware of any stores that don't work this way. Proof can always be fabricated but a takedown notice will have a legal representative and their contact information tied to it making verification a trivial matter.

 

I donno what to think about this. Part of me wants to buy this because the quality is so high and the packs are so incredibly complete. You have a large AA quality games worth of animation there. Like everything you actually need to do a complete AA quality game, not like normal animation packs.

There are two options:

- There really is a studio and they're directly selling work they did for a large game.
- These are rips from a game

Even if "TeamZ" really exists and they actually did this work, chances are high that it's still illegal since they probably don't own resale rights.

I strongly lean towards these being rips and the seller having nothing to do with the production of the assets.

 

Besides some emails with fluff text they didn't react to the takedown notice. We had to use the local legal system to force the guy to take it down.

 

It could be bunch of guys with a mocap rig or openpose plugin.

In general, if you think it is a rip, you need to find where it was ripped from.

 

Look through the assets directly guys. These are production assets from a AA level game.

 

With a good rig and experience, an artist could pump out 20 humanoid animations a day by hand.

The humanoid/biped animations are by far the most practiced and supported rigs on any structure.

Plus looking at these poses, they appear to be exaggerated as many games do, plus, many of the animations are probably recycled across packages.

As others mentioned, this also might just be a failed project attempting to get a little coin for their effort. I really dont see what is so suspicious... especially since the price points seem to indicate the artist/team knows the value of their effort.

If it were scam, they'd be selling at $20, to try to sell as many as possible before being caught.

 

I agree that if it looks too good to be true, avoid it. That said...

Which one?

Even if they are, your earlier assumption that they don't have the rights is baseless. How would you know? I used to do work for people and keep the rights to reuse it (non-competitively, etc., of course).