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The Last Guardian Cancelled D:

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by calmcarrots, Jun 8, 2014.

  1. calmcarrots

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  3. Jago

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    I'm happy that the cancellation was just a rumor, since I'm waiting for this game too.
    Looking at the game development history (with Fueda leaving then coming back as a consultant, the delays and so on) I have to say that I'm still hoping fo it to be at the level of Ico and Shadow of Colossus, but I fear that it will be a disappointment...
     
  4. lazygunn

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    ign are the last place to go for anything with professional integrity or even sense
     
  5. Murgilod

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    No, games journalism in general is. It's a completely vacuous industry dedicated to regurgitating press releases as news and rumours as fact. Even the "better" sites like Polygon are a complete joke.
     
  6. RockoDyne

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    At least it's not Hollywood reporting.
     
  7. ZJP

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  8. Murgilod

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    I see gamers haven't learned a goddamn thing from Duke Nukem Forever, Watch_Dogs, Fable, Prey, or Spore, huh.
     
  9. calmcarrots

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    Nothing....... gamers are getting worse by the generation. If the game isn't 1080p 60fps, then no buy. If the graphics dont have high res textures, 1 billion polys, and motion cap animation, then no buy. I miss the ps2 days when games just came out as games. Nothing more. No mobile app integration, no dlcs, no drm... just one great game. I still believe games with PS2 graphics have the best graphics. There is something about those graphics that make my jaw drop.... I just love it!
     
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  10. ZJP

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    In fact, i'm not a Gamer. But, i know Duke... :p
     
  11. lazygunn

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    There's some hope, i think, rock paper shotgun have a deft and honest style, Eurogamer is actually really really good, its strange, the most highly regarded games magazine in England, Edge, is falling on hard times and seem to be getting pretty erratic in their output - I used to reg their old forums and now reg a private forum mostly for people completely fed up with the Edge forum, which was one of very few places to get great opinions on games once, and now a shambles. Eurogamer have picked up the mantle a bit i think, they have great content and and I can trust their reviews and articles. It's a nice change from the youtubes and gamespots comments sections of the world. Although he's getting a bit samey sometimes, i tend to agree with Yahtzees high speed resentment and disgust at the type of things coming out

    It's right though, there is currently an absolutely obnoxious majority of gamers who want everything good theyve seen in every other game and feel ENTITLED to that while thinking games grow on magic trees. I think every professional game dev i know thinks gamers are, in the main, absolute cretins.. getting them started on the well financed gearheads demanding all games be borne from the womb of the pc is... yeah

    I think there's optimistic side to it though, i posted No Mans Sky up there, unique ambitious small team greatness and with that setup, great agility. Games like CoD have been watered down to absolutely nothing, predict the next thing to blow up, which building will fall down, and its a facade to something empty and isolated and most the time i get to a certain point and go 'ok this is incredibly boring now' and forget it

    The oculus is building steam, it WILL change gaming in some ways, maybe major ways - after addressing things like latency and designing the game around the player always controlling their head it's gong to go far - noone on earth can put the oculus on, start hl2 for the first time in years, leave the train and have the robot snap you and not want all games to be like that. Try playing cod with an OR - it's literally unbearable. Play Dear Esther on an OR and its absolutely beautiful (cept reflective water)

    I would truly love games to slow down by necessity to suit the demands of immersed human perception, not the crappy window into wherever we usually use. Gaming will change, it'll mature, id hope and shooting foreigners just not be very enjoyable compared to what this new hardware can provide them with. Id genuinely hope for that maturity to be absolutely taken on, so we can have games with stories designed for freedom of motion, environment judged for walk-speed exploration, and not making the sole purpose of a first person game to be killing someone, which is fun in the game then you think about it and its gets quite abhorrent, especially when these trashy kids games have moments in the campain where they aim for controversial and come off as exploitative screen vomit

    More walk-em-ups please
     
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    I wouldn't say "completely"... but it's unfortunately close. I'm not sure if it's game specific, or if it's simply because games journalism is predominantly done by people who grew up with the Internet and never learned that "research" doesn't mean "just looking up stuff someone else found or published". This is as much the fault of education as it is the "journalists".

    When I was at school* they did a terrible job of teaching us how to research stuff. They didn't seem to be able to articulate anything more than "don't outright copy what your sources say, but learn from them and write it in your own words". This resulted in me and another kid one day "researching" by me reading a book, paraphrasing facts from it, and the other kid adding those facts to what he was writing. We did this in front of a teacher, and it was considered to be good because at least we were able to properly paraphrase instead of simply replacing words with synonyms as other kids were doing (somehow the focus had shifted from learning and presenting information to a language exercise). I'm absolutely sure that if you went back and read that and the book I'd been using you could easily see the structure of the original mirrored on our (probably poorly) reworded version.

    And that's quite commonly the kind of thing I see on games news sites. A few choice pieces of a press release expanded into a longer format, re-quotes from an interview someone else did, or re-posts of a video someone's released with a one liner underneath about why you should watch it via the news site instead of the people who actually made it. It's only a very small minority of people who do their own research, write fully original pieces or otherwise actually make new stuff. Everyone else just regurgitates things from other people, just like I was taught in school...

    * This isn't to bag out my entire time in the education system. This is just one particular thing I think they did really poorly. It wasn't until I later wanted to find answers to things that aren't well documented that I learned to research things for myself that it clicked to me that "real" research is where you find things out that aren't already common knowledge to be looked up.
     
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    RPS has gone way down in my estimation over the past year but Eurogamer does keep putting out good stuff.

    Expecting 1080p60fps and an optimised game on PC isn't being entitled. Its asking the developers to do their job. Can't speak for consoles cause I don't have one. Sure maybe some things do scream entitled and not every game needs everything but expecting a baseline experience is fine. It is after all gamers that are paying the money.

    I don't want games to slow down or "mature". I want diversity. I've said before I think walking sims are S***e but if other people want to play them then go right ahead. No Mans Sky does look amazing. I don't see why an FPS is abhorrent either. I'm not shooting real people. I'm having fun playing it testing my skill against other people around the world. I'll give you CoD being pish but I really enjoy FPS.

    I want some quirky indie S*** to come out but I also want the AAA OMGWTFBBQ! S*** as well. I didn't get into games because I played some little indie thing (though probably Amiga stuff would be considered indie now) and it wasn't really until I got a PC that I thought this is one thing I want to do with my life.

    Not directed at you but I see the sentiment coming from a lot of indie devs that A/AA/AAA is too low brow and they want meaning and artsy-fartsy S*** from everything they play. I just don't get that. AAA is what allows indies to be successful.