Still can't bake lightmaps with RC1 and terrain

Still stalls at "2/11 layout systems".

Easy to duplicate. Create a new project. Create a terrain. Make it any size you want. I made mine tiny - 100x100.

Hit bake.

See stall. Wait. See it still stall. Maybe it's a mac only thing. I don't know. I see some people say they are getting errors in "Final Gather", and Unity people reporting that Final Gather is fixed in RC2.

But I can't even get there.

Is the "Layout Systems" bug fixed in the next RC also?

 

@Jaimi empirically it seems to be worse on Mac OS X. I've got both running side-by-side via a VM for the Windows OS and light-map baking is less 'reliable' on Mac OS X. It's at the point where I bake my light-maps using the Windows Unity version and share back to the Mac version via source-control.

 

After reading this post. I figured I'd give it a test myself. I have the same problem on OSX. I just created a default terrain, painted a little bit of height, and tried to bake... and it's stuck at 2/11 Layout Systems | 1 jobs

 

+1

 

I really hope they aren't rushing release out with all these bugs still here... Lightmapping is extremely unreliable, and takes DAYS on many things. Not to mention other bugs in Unity 5 not related to lightmapping.

 

At this rate, they're probably going to have 10-15 RC's. Agreed though, tons of stuff needs to be fixed still.

 

I baked my terrain 2kmx2km with few objects in few minutes in b22(and I dont have some hardcore server cpu), so, solution is easy- use win 8.1

 

That's not a solution for me at work.

 

Also on OS X, also stuck at 2/11 Layout Systems...

 

Well whats your lightmap resolution? There's a LOT more factors than just that. If you baked it successfully... please tell us what the parameters are?

Also try adding an emmisive shere ontop of the terrain, it'll then take ages to bake.

 

I'm looking forward to the changes you've detailed in your reply.

But how about the original concern - We've never been able to build lightmaps on OSX with any version of the beta if you have a terrain. It always stalls at "2/11 Layout Systems". This appears to be an OSX specific bug.

If you have any terrain, no matter what size, no matter what else there is in the scene, you cannot bake lighting - neither continuous or on demand. It always stalls at 2/11 layout systems.

 

@Joachim_Ante many thanks for reaching out with this update. For sure the folks on these forums want Unity 5 to be as good as it can be as much as the Unity team itself.

Now onto all my issues both concerning a feature-equivalent upgrade path for the dual lightmap feature of Unity 4. Excuse the tech errors. I'm really new Unity and realtime graphics in general.

Will dynamic shadows ever be composed over static, lightmap lit objects within the near shadow distance? Unity 5 directional lightmaps and realtime GI provide a good upgrade path for dual lightmapping, except dynamic shadows don't seem to be cast from non-static objects. Is this Mixed baked mode for lights?

http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/intent-of-mixed-baked-mode-for-lights.285644

So will the Legacy Shaders ever understand 5.0 Directional (specular or not) lightmap data? Currently Non-Directional is supported by nature of the format storing the same diffuse response as Unity 4. It'd be awkward to have to convert all materials to use the Standard shaders.

http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/in...er-than-non-baked-lights-no-lightmaps.285677/

 

FYI @Jaimi not trying to hijack the thread away from Mac OS X baking issues. But @Joachim_Ante helpfully posted a reply to this thread so it's easier for me to reply to that post right here. I'm hoping Mac OS X baking stability will improve also as I do all mine on the Windows OS currently.

 

No problem. Every time I've posted the issue, the only official responses I've gotten is basically "We've fixed the final gather in version {insert next version here}" or "It's way faster in {next version here}". I'm truly wondering if they realize we can't build. I'd hate to have to move over to my bootcamp VM to build, as I've already used both my license activations on desktop + notebook.

 

I can't even do that. I'm not allowed to install windows on my work machine... period.

 

I hear you. It is always the next one. I am still waiting to bake my existing scene and render it with Unity 4.6 lighting equivalence let alone surpassing it. Maybe that already exists but for the life of me I can't figure it out. Personally I don't care about PBR/PBS at this time, although I did just purchase B2M3 in order to convert across my existing textures to support PBS. In the meantime a quicker, more successful bake with Unity 4.6 dual lightmap 'equivalence' at runtime is what I'd like.

 

Will do. I've reported a lot of issues, and my mileage has varied with respect to responses to them, but anything I can do to help the Unity team.

Any response to the following? I put more information about the questions in this thread above.

- Will dynamic shadows ever be composed over static, lightmap lit objects within the near shadow distance?
- So will the Legacy Shaders ever understand 5.0 Directional (specular or not) lightmap data?

Thanks again for you feedback in the forums.

 

Excellent news, Thanks!

 

I will construct a project and file it today. Basically with a light mapped scene how does one configure shadows cast from non-static objects? In 4.6 this mode was Mixed. In 5.0 Mixed does not seem to behave much differently to Baked. The Mixed mode being a light object setting.

 

Great! I was looking at the shader source and modifying them myself was going to be a long haul given my lack of knowledge of shader light models.

 

Reported as case from 4.6. Reason being that it, at least in my testing, was reliable to verify it worked in 4.6 and then import the project to 5.0 and re-bake.

Case 671248.

Edited: Removed case details and posted along with screen captures to the original thread. It looks like the issue "2/11 layout systems" has been resolved and I don't want to sustain a thread with information about another issue.

Original thread is http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/intent-of-mixed-baked-mode-for-lights-case-671248.285644

 

I sincerely hope this isn't an admission you only test bug fixes on a single OS?!?! That's insane!

 

This is good news - Can't wait for RC2, I've been waiting to port my project until this is fixed. Currently I use 4.6, but there is a memory leak bug (I assume OSX specific there as well) that was introduced in 4.5 that makes it very unstable. I'm really only into 5.X because of the 64 bit editor.

 

The fact that the CTO is actively replying to your issue is outstanding.

 

Yup.

 

I agree - Outstanding.

 

Well that's a relief. I think we've all made the mistake of assuming things at some point or another. Let's just hope it's not a recurring issue. It's been interesting following the 5.0 development. The work you do is fantastic!

It's unfortunate a CTO's active involvement in a heavily community driven product's forum would be considered outstanding. One would hope it would be the norm. It's a shame so many distance themselves from their customer base. I hope Unity's board never position themselves above the community. It's great to see Joachim getting involved in conversation. I hope it continues. With any luck it may even set a precedent for other organizations!