SpeedTree Joins Unity!

Apple is adding a way to do this if you have their hardware. It's on my list of things to try once I can get a Mac Mini.

https://techcrunch.com/2021/06/08/a...-create-3d-models-for-ar-using-iphone-photos/

 

Unfortunately, only mac in this house is two iphones. Probably not something we will add unless we need to do so. Thanks for the link!!

 

@Teila Welcome to the jungle.

 

Have you or anyone tried Unity's ArtEngine? It's not free so I haven't bothered looking at it (not paying to learn something when I'm not an artist and wouldn't be using it much) but they did drop the price to $20/mo instead of $100 or whatever. https://unity.com/products/unity-artengine

Like 5+ years ago there was skanect and some others that could make models from scanning objects with a kinect and it was decent at convex stuff with the depth sensor but pretty low resolution being kinect v1.

 

Hey there! Long time no see! @chingwa

 

You can't say its price drop if its a limited time discount. Its still $333/Month.

 

Jesus.

I pay 250 a year for maya....

 

The real money appears to be in selling shovels to prospectors.

 

yeah that is the impression i get too, especially when i read actual words written by unity all over the internet. Makes me suspicious. Seems like the business plan is whale hunting.

 

They are in deficit

 

no idea why they added this junk but it explains why they dropped Substance support and are blocking them from getting proper API support for them to support them selves...... Substance is industry standard..... for most .. .So, this explains why when I seen that trash...

I wouldn't sub to that if it was 10$ a month.... one of these days, Unity will realize that people who make and release games, want to use industry standard tools, not junk like that.

https://unity.com/products/unity-artengine Substance Designer, Painter, Mixer, and even the Old NDO2, was miles ahead of this trash.

Unity has never been smart about supporting good tools, they TRY to make there own, or buy some asset someone else made... This is terrible... I used it once , it was one of the worst programs I had ever used..

 

"For now, nothing will change for SpeedTree or Unity customers."

Except, now with ST9 we have a few versions, one for Learning and a few Paid. Before unity, I was able to export my trees to unity with the free version, which had an "Export Only" option. Now the only way to export .spm files to unity is to use one of the paid versions because they removed this option from the Learning version. Cool stuff

 

I mean, it was phrased ambiguously from the start for a reason, and re-reading this thread did warm my frozen heart to see no one was expecting good things from Unity, but at this point I think we can safely pick the correct translation of this phrase, which is probably:

"We're not going to F*** you over... for now".

 

Someone should compile this to a dictionary.
I need it for reading Unity Blog Posts.

 

There is a section related to SpeedTree and 'Vegetation Pipeline' in the new roadmap video (24:34) where Danny Oakes explains what is happening and what is planned.

TLDR:
- updates coming to all 2023 releases (tech stream, LTS) for URP and HDRP
- integration improvements for workflows, performance and rendering
- new library with photometry/photogrammetry based materials and scans
- collaboration with Weta to improve SpeedTree (tree generation inside the editor is mentioned)

Understanding Unity’s 2023 roadmap for games | Unite 2022:

 

That doesn't answer the main question which is: "Will everyone get access to this and how much will it cost?

 

Regarding tree generation inside the editor, unity already have Tree Creator which trying to mimic speedtree , is that gonna be replaced with speed tree system?

 

The tree editor was never really trying to mimic speedtree, considering how it only ever had maybe 1% of its feature set and produced really ugly results. It also doesn't even support LODs out of the box.

 

well it's an attempt i guess

 

I don't think that export option was ever available in speedtree free version even before the acquisition!! Only the 15 day trial editions had the export option
Do u mean the default trees which came with speedtree for free, where only the unedited version of those could be exported for free??

 

It was in ST8

 

An asset I just installed required speedtrees. I thought I'd install the free examples, but there don't seem to be any anymore:

https://assetstore.unity.com/publishers/9474

So to sum up: SpeedTree joins Unity and what the Unity users get is nothing at all.

 

Anybody knows what's the policy about including speedTree assets in a paid asset for the Unity store?
I exported a sample from the ST Modeler 9.5 which allows to export the samples and I plan to use it in my get started tutorial.

 

I don't know, but I went to their site looking for an EULA or something and... that site seems in disarray.

Is this thing still being developed?

The site still has a "breaking news" note that "SPEEDTREE JOINS UNITY"



Dude, that was 2 years ago.

Also, this Awards section is a bit sad:



Nothing after 2015, eh?

The copyright here hasn't been updated for 2023...


I mean... From an outsider's perspective, I always thought Speedtree was amazing when Oblivion released, it probably peaked a bit after that and then started dropping. Getting bought by Unity had the potential to turn things around, but their website makes it seem abandoned.

In any case @BOXOPHOBIC the site says to contact them if you have licensing questions, so try that and let us know how it goes:


https://store.speedtree.com/contact/

 

This was posted literally a week ago, so probably.

https://blog.unity.com/engine-platform/speedtree-9-5

 

It's not allowed. At least that's what I was told from the ST support about a year ago.