Question Shader Graph shaders and particle sorting fudge

Hi there,

I use a mix of standard particle shaders and custom graph shaders for my VFX and when I combine both types into a single particle system, I notice that I'm only able to fudge sort the custom shaders between themselves and the standard ones amongst themselves, but I can't ever get one group to draw over the other; the custom shader particles will always draw behind all the standard shader ones.

Has anyone had the same problem and how did you solve it?

 

Thanks for your response, but I'm not using the VFX Graph at all, just regular Particle Systems.

 

It is possible to set render queue values for SG shaders, yes but I'm not sure about the values for standard shader. Fade doesn't seem to even be available on latest versions, only opaque and transparent.

 

Now that you mention it, Graph shaders default to a value of '3000 Transparent' so I guess that's the same as a built-in shader set to Transparent, but this is where I have the problem.

Could you please confirm if 3000 is what the default shaders are set to? Because as I mentioned, I seem to not be able to fudge paeticles between shader groups.

 

3000 is indeed the default, but more importantly look at what is set on your materials. Materials can override the queue set by the shader, so make sure it’s showing either 3000 or “use shader” and your Shader Graphs are set to be Transparent.

If that’s all true, then Unity’s built in draw call sorting may be overriding the fudge factor, as the sorting algorithm may try to keep the same shader together to improve rendering speed. Usually most of that gets disabled with transparent sorting though.

 

How do we override render queue?

 

At the bottom of a Material parameters.

 

Sorry, could you include a screenshot?
I can't find any render queue parameter
What I can find is:
1. I can change Sorting Priority to affect render queue, but can't be more than 100
2. I can see Custom render queue in inspector in debug mode, but it got reset after modification

 

Having same issue. Changing render queue doesn't help, and also isn't a very good solution, since particle material gets reused alot, and I'd like to sort it differently based on system needs. So I hope this gets somehow resolved on Unity side...

 

What I've discovered since I posted originally is how to use Render Layer order. That works for me every time. You'll find the settings towards the end of the Render module in particle systems. Play with the Render Layer and Order in Layer values.