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Discussion in 'Works In Progress - Archive' started by antoripa, Nov 27, 2016.

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Would you like to see a dymic terrain blend in real time while you are in Edit Mode ?

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  1. antoripa

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    How do you create lakes or any kind of water surface ?
    Sentieri allow you to do with a fast workflow ...

     
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  2. magique

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    This looks great. I have Megasplat and awaiting Terrafirma and Awesome vegetation so this looks like a winner.
     
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  3. RonnyDance

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    This looks really awesome. Would love to see a tutorial / showcase for creating cliff ways.
     
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  4. antoripa

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    Sentieri is already integrated with Vegetation Studio ( used in the video ) . Soon Megasplat integration is read ( wip ) and I am already in touch with Terrafirm developer for even that integration ...
     
  5. antoripa

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    Sure .. I will record a video ...nice point . .thanks
     
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  7. Seneral

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    @antoripa Looking really good:)

    Just watched the creation of terrain in Ghost Recon Wildlands, around 0:35:00 they mention a road network generation system very similar to how Sentieri works. Truly underlines the benefits you get from such a tool:)
    That video also raised some question for me: Does Sentieri try to generate bridges when the alternate path is too long? And can we align multiple sentieri paths with each other (like railways and road)?
    Also, and that might be a bit far-fetched, is a flow-map input viable so that sentieri tries to generate the path in the direction of the strongest flow (obviously used for river generation on flow-maps generated by WorldMachine or an erosion tool)?
    Really stoked about the release:)
    Seneral
     
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  8. Whippets

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    What's the poly count for generated meshes, and can Sentieri cut it's meshes into chunks for LODding and culling?

    Also, is there any sort of blending possible to create smoother edges with the terrain textures?
     
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  9. antoripa

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    Yep . .good points ...
    1) Roads is not one single mesh . but it is made by segments .. and you can enable the lod system
    2) Yes .. there is ... that's happen with shaders that you can apply to road material .. and Sentieri has a bunch of shaders specifice for roads ...
    I hope that what expected .. :)
     
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  10. antoripa

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    Wow .. I have never seen the video .. and I would say that I started Sentieri end of november last year ..
    Sentieri is the first asset of a more large suite .. and with other assets you will get done same in the video .. including procedural cities .....
     
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  11. Seneral

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    Cool, that sounds great! We really need some kind of uniform terrain workflow like in the video. Looking forward to more information about your tool suite:)

    I've also thought whether it would be possible to create some kind of framework for all terrain tools for easier integration. Because let's face it, no tool is ever going to be best in every way;)
    It's not unusual to use 5 different tools in one workflow for the best result, but it is a pain to work that way. That video really made it obvious to me, and it's frustrating.
    With a shared base framework you could maybe paint the base terrain (height or biomes), set one terrain tool to generate the heightmap, another to do the erosion and other post-processing like Sentieri to create the roads, then tell another preferred terrain tool to generate splats/objects/mask based on the modified height and maybe other intermediate results (road mask/flow map), and only then assign to the terrain.
    Basically, combining the best of every tool, however you prefer. That would get us kind of where big studios with a dedicated tool are...
    Anyway, just an idea.

    Btw you can tell me the answers yet or are these still to decide? :)
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  12. antoripa

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    Hey guys...
    I am at Unite 2017 to see what is coming in nrxt months.. If someone is there and would talk about Sentieri just ping me with a PM
     
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    amazing! any ETA?
     
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  14. Steve-Tack

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    I hope you mean Unite 2017 or you are REALLY late. :D
     
  15. antoripa

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    I was late ..:(:( ...
     
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  16. antoripa

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    Thanks a lot ...Plan is to push the asset to Asset Store in August ..
     
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  17. magique

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    I'm going with TC2+Sentieri+MegaSplat+Terrafirma+Vegetation Studio. ;)
     
  18. antoripa

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    Killer combination ..
     
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  19. Mark_T

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    not yet :)
     
  20. magique

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    True, but it's currently TC2+MegaSplat+VegetationStudio and already killer. Add the last 2 components and just wow.
     
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    Gaia 2 (eventually) + Sentieri + CTS + Vegetation Studio + GeNa is the toolbox I'm hoping to get going with this. Was in love with the road/path creation in the beginning. Super excited about the lake, river, and waterfall potential with the new stuff!!! Keep up the awesome work Antonio!!!
     
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  22. SyGem

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    If you need any more beta testers I'd love to help out. I have a 70km road network on a 8x8km terrain that I'm not completely happy with. Can Sentieri create city-style roads of different widths? I'm currently using CiDy and can create 2-lane, 4-lane or 6-lane roads. What about junctions? Or sidewalks?
     
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  23. DonLoquacious

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    As the one who initiated the waterfall discussion, I'm super-psyched that someone else is here waiting for this functionality too- it means it might not fall into the abyss of lost feature requests. We might end up getting a solution from Jason first (the MegaSplat developer) as an integration with Sentieri, though it's hard to say.

    I will say that thus far MegaSplat appears to be really outdoing CTS in terms of both performance and features (simultaneously). Since CTS just came out, hopefully that won't remain the case for long, but Adam has responsibilities with Gaia/GeNa that may prevent him from really going all-out on it, and I'm not sure what Bart's plans are. I'm really happy with my MegaSplat purchase, so if you haven't checked it out yet, I recommend it wholeheartedly.

    Other than that, my preferred setup is the same as yours. Gaia 2 (when it's released), GeNa, Vegetation Studio (testing it now), and Sentieri, with SpeedTree trees (love the modeler) and some excellent TurboScalpeur grass. Just beautiful!
     
  24. Whippets

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    There's also Terrafirma to add in to the mix. Not enough info there yet, but it *could* be a total replacement for Unity Terrain. The big question will be; what, of all the other new assets will work with Terrafirma? CTS, MegaSplat, Vegetation Studio, Sentieri, Gaia 2.

    As game devs, we're in a great place at the moment, about to redefine what's possible with terrain. Can't wait.
     
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  25. antoripa

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    Sentieri has the capability to create a library with the setting for your path
    you can switch from one profile to another directly from the UI
    and you can export your setting to use with other projects


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  27. EternalAmbiguity

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    Question.

    Could I use this to have an AI "build" a road in real time in a game? Have it set the starting and ending points, then define the path, then "build" from one end to the other, by adding small chunks of 'road" as the NPC does some animation? This while removing natural features like trees which are in the way, and while avoiding immovable things like a river or a house?
     
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  28. antoripa

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    Ideally yes ..
     
  29. antoripa

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    Hi guys ...
    just coocked up a new video about the procedural generation .... cheers ...

     
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  31. UnleadedGames

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    I'm going to die of old age before you release this with the way you keep adding features. :D That's a compliment by the way but really itching to get my hands on this! Keep up the great work!
     
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  32. antoripa

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    Hey ... I am back ...and started the last but one stage before first release : alpha test.

     
  33. longroadhwy

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    What versions of Unity are your planning on supporting?
     
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    Hello guys ...
    What do you think about my latest features ? .. Tunnels ....
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  35. one_one

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    Not to sound too discouraging, but at this point I'd prefer a release over new features ;)
     
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    I think tunnels is a great feature! In addition to racing I was thinking it would be great for railroads too. Keep up the good work on this asset.
     
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  37. Hitch42

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    Looks great. What are the parameters that you can use on it? For instance, could this makes caves with rivers flowing through them?

    And I say take all the time you need to make this perfect.
     
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  38. Alverik

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    Wow, looks great! Just how the heck did you manage to do tunnels with the Unity terrain system? Or does it use separate meshes?
     
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  39. virror

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    Making tunnels is not that hard with the unity terrain, but it requires a custom shader to be able to paint transparency. Not sure if this is 100% unity terrain though.
     
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  40. Alverik

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    Oh, I get it. Though, well, if you are not a shader programmer, then the "requires a custom shader" is as far as you get, lol.
     
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  41. antoripa

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    Sentieri will provide all.
     
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  42. antoripa

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    www.grally.net . a fantastic rally car simulator (@ghiboz ) . .Vegetation Studio . ( @LennartJohansen ) and MicroSplat ( @jbooth ) ..mountain path and lakes created with Sentieri ..
    Vegatation Studio is used for landscape items and MicroSplat ( full stack ) for terrain shader .. AAA quality running at 120 FPS ...

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  43. antoripa

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    Sentieri and Vegetation Studio...what else ?

     
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  44. Whippets

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    What's the chance of footpaths and cart-tracks with grass up the middle? (purely self-interest as making a faux-medieval game).
     
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  45. BackwoodsGaming

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    Pretty sure that is possible. He posted a screenshot prior to August showing Sentieri and Lennart's Vegetation System and the road he had in it was dirt with grass growing between the wheel tracks of the road. It was posted somewhere a couple pages back in this thread I think.
     
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  46. LennartJohansen

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    There is a setting. Sentieri makes a VegetationLineMask for the road. That can be configured to add grass to the center like that.
     
  47. antoripa

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    Sentieri has unlimited possibility to shape your road as you can image. And it is really simple.
    Soon I will start short video to introduce every single feature ....


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  48. LennartJohansen

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    Looking good
     
  49. antoripa

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    Developing new features .before beta ...Terrain Blending

    No Blend
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    Blend On .
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    Have a great Sunday ....
     
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  50. manpower13

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    Looks very cool!