Official Scene Visibility Tools - Info and Discussion Thread

Whenever I go into isolation mode it doesn't isolate the selected object.

- 2019.1 a11
- Using HDRP
- I set Isolation to a shortcut with the shortcut manager

You can see it's in Isolation mode but everything else still shows only the icons get hidden.

 

Ah ok, I was wondering if it was because of SRP.

 

I like the new hide / show object in the inspector, I just don't like the dark grey background under the eyes. it creates a distraction

I would keep the background the same for the whole panel, like I have done in the first image

 

Does this work only in new projects? I cannot have it fully work in my current project.

• I select the environment prefab and when I try to hide it, only its mesh collider becomes invisible.

Generally speaking, objects are not hidden in the following cases:

• objects regrouped inside an empty game object,
• UI elements, either selected individually or in empty game objects.

Works in the following cases:

• prefabs in general: only if objects in the prefab are individually selected.

 

Thanks for your answer above, much appreciated!

The column is visible but you really need to over the mouse over them to see the eyes... I wish they were more visible, like in the Photoshop UI.

 

Can you make this color configurable? in the color preferences? ( so a can match the background color ) Haha, no really it's messing with my OCD to have a different background color there.

If you make it configurable users can decide what fits them

 

And trust me I know how to make the hierarchy full of goodies. Stil I don't see a reason to have the bar on the left personally.





https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/utilities/qhierarchy-28577


I have been using Qhierachy for a while and I like that is very user customise-able, I can change colours, icons positions, disable / enable features etc.

My request to unity is, make the same kind of user configurability possible for the new tools, and don't force them upon users. in other words don't try to make a one fits all approach, but leave some choice for the user.

 

I think clicking on visibility for a hierarchy of objects should hide all of them, and the ALTernative OPTion should be hiding only that one object

 

Example of Qhierarchy user settings :

 

Practicality; I guess most of Unity users's languages read from the left to the right. It wouldn't be that bad to have the choice though. I would place it to the right in my projects because the hierarchy window is on the left of the scenes views.

 

Looks sort of useful but we designed out this being a problem a while back using multi scene - we just unload the detail props scene etc.

Is it useful? I think so, if it prevents editing too as anyone could probably write something to link a public property of choice in the hierarchy bar.

Would be interesting if the UI could be: you can assign any public bool of any component to be toggled in a column, but that's a little out of scope here. I'd have probably linked the state of mesh editing + visibility then, to a toggle column to replicate the functionality here.

But it's worth thinking about how that could be much more open ended and useful in broader context. Being able to link things ourselves to column toggle.

Because people will always want a variation of behaviour for their specific projects.

 

Here's another tool enhanced library with lots of options, and no need to have a darker grey color on the left side.

https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/utilities/enhanced-hierarchy-2-0-44322

 

Okay, this is working in the scene views.

 

The whole feature is only meant for changing how scene shows up in the editor. It's not meant to be a tool to enable/disable gameobjects from the actual game:

 

But game view supposed to show the gameplay like it's going to work in build too. Having it show something totally different in editors game view would be really confusing to many users.

It's only about showing/isolating/hiding objects from sceneview in editor so one can focus on editing specific parts of the scene.

You may want to also read this: https://docs.google.com/document/d/13OeZgflRzhJMoPWlJ6D7yuz2gDlNQaLJ_pCgdT517uQ/edit

I don't argue it could still be handy to be able to quickly hide some rendering from game view too (right now you have to toggle off the mesh renderer component per object basis), but right now it is normal for it to not work outside of scene view as that's how it's designed to work atm (to answer the original question).

If they allow hiding the objects from editors game-view with the same control in future (could be a toggle in game view topbar), I'd hope there would be some warning somewhere that you are looking at a view with hidden objects that would normally appear on final build etc.

 

If it's some common thing you do every time when you run the thing in the editor, you could just write some script with the help of https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/PlatformDependentCompilation.html (use #if UNITY_EDITOR ... #endif) to implement different visibility logic for your game elements in the editor.

 

Didn't try it but this is really welcome, especially when trying to work in interiors.

When you're at it, I would love to see a Group/Layers system coming to unity, mostly for visibility also.
Like if my hierarchy would be:

• House 1
  • Walls
    • Wall_corner
    • Wall
    • Wall
  • Roof
• House 2
  • Walls
    • Wall_corner
    • Wall
    • Wall
  • Roof

Being able to put Walls for instance into a group and toggle their visibility.

 

There was a tool called pro groups that did ecaclty that.

I hope this tool is coming back now that the developer works at unity.

 

I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but given that you are overhauling the scene editor in 2019.1 are there plans to support temporal image effects like TAA in the scene view?

 

What I think is that unity needs more panels

1. Hierarchy ( its like Maya outliner )

2. Display layers / groups ( look at Maya layers for hints how to do it right ) Layers can have colours, can be reference only etc.

3. Library with all your game objects sorted in the way you like.
Not like the project panel but with your own layout not dependent on how its stored in the folders. From the library you should be able to quickly add new game objects to the scene

4. Shelf, where you can add icons that do custom scripts

Some of these I think are being worked on already, and I think display layers / groups are top priority for project organisation.

 

Is this the team that's working on "Scene Fragments" (Folder like containers in the scene) shown in this year's Roadmap earlier at GDC?

 

I like those eyes icons better in that roadmap picture than the one we currently get

 

When grouping is to be used as a library then it would need to be able to show thumbnails.

https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/level-design/prefab-pick-place-117399

This tool has some of the functionality that I think would be good for a custom library tool.
being able to import from folders.

I'm using pro groups and one thing that I like very much is that I can have both items from the hierarchy and from the project folder easily accessible. and that I can click on then to quickly locate them.

 

This is interesting. I was just showing Unity to our artist so that he could make some changes to the scene. The first thing he wanted was a way to disable selection of some objects (like in Illustrator or Photoshop) so that he wouldn't select them by mistake. My answer was to lock the layers, but we use the layers for gameplay mechanics and this could break them. Also, putting objects you don't need right now on a different layer and lock them is very cumbersome.

In my opinion a lock functionality would be more useful than fully hide those objects, because we're usually trying to move/edit some objects with respect to other objects in the scene, Especially in 2D games where you have a lot of layers on top of each other and want to move some objects and match them to background.

 

Blender now also has layers / collections / groups whatever you want to call them. this is really helpfull for organisation

And a nice feature clickable workspaces / layouts

Unity has layouts, it would be cool if I could assign those to buttons in the top bar, so they could be accessed with the mouse

 

Could you also add an option to use a different LOD Bias in the Scene View?
https://feedback.unity3d.com/suggestions/lod-bias-option-for-scene-view

We started using Level Of Detail via LOD Group recently and one caveat we ran into is that the Scene View culls objects using the LODs as well. Sometimes this is great, but while building a level, it's often inconvenient.

The problem for us is that while building the level, we would like to see farther and especially smaller objects than in the actual game view. Looking farther means LODs should get culled much later, which allows us to see smaller objects, like stones for example, while painting them from a certain distance.

The workaround we currently use is to set the LOD Bias in Quality Settings to 10000. However, it already occurred that people commit this change to version control by accident.

We would like to see an option where we can modify LOD Bias in the scene view only and it should not modify any project settings.

PS: I actually posted this in the General Support Forum (*), but then saw this "Scene Visibility Tools" forum thread and thought it a perfect fit.

 

Might not be the right thread but since we're talking about tool in the scene view, it could be nice to have a toggle to sync scene camera and game camera.
I know it's pretty easy to do with editor scripts, but having it by default could be nice.
Especially with the new prefab new isolation mode, I always need to move my game camera to see the change I made in isolation.

 

Would be cool to have a toggle in scene view to hide objects by type(mesh renderers, lights, reflection probes etc)

 

This sound like a more generic and handy version of Light Explorer window. I like it.

 

I noticed that i cant isolate gameobject when hierarchy window is not active(if i select gameobject in hierarchy and then click on scene view or if i select object directly in scene view). Would be cool to have this working across both windows.

 

@gabrielw_unity I tested this on alpha 12 and hdrp. I made shortcut for isolation but when i select objects in scene view and press shortcut button nothing happens. Its working for me only if i select objects in hierarchy. Shortcut for "Exit isolation" is working in both windows by the way.

 

@gabrielw_unity yes, problem was single key shortcut. I tried multikey(Shift + H, Ctrl + H, Shift + J, Ctrl + J) and it working excellent. Thank you

 

GameObject->Align With View

 

Hi,

this feature sounds awesome! Will there by any way to query an API to see which gameobjecs objects are visible or not (and ideally events when some of the objects get hidden/shown)?

In our project, most objects in the game world do not use the MeshRenderer components, but are submited using Graphics.DrawMesh or drawn using indirect instanced draw calls, which means these toggles won't affect the drawing, right?