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Robotsaid.com is the new way of distributing and following Indie Game Press Releases.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by selimanac, Dec 17, 2015.

  1. selimanac

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    It’s build for indie game developers by game developers. Any small & mid-sized game studios are welcome. Also we got tons of features for publishers, youtubers, bloggers.
    We are planning to start first beta testing at the end of the February 2016.

    Indie Game Developers and Publishers, please subscribe to our beta mailing list. So we can keep you updated..
    www.robotsaid.com

    Follow Us
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robotsaid/
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobotsaidSocial
     
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  2. Master-Frog

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    Wow this is cool and useful, and doesn't seem like shameless spam advertising at all!
     
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  3. Ryiah

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    Okay. I'll bite. Who are you? Because there isn't any information about your company on the actual site.
     
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  4. hippocoder

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    Well the grammar is crap so I'm out. If you're marketing toward English speakers, get it right.
     
  5. Ryiah

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    Yes, I noticed that as well, but the Internet has me jaded in my expectations that people can use good grammar.
     
  6. hippocoder

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    I don't mind if its not a service and people are chatting on skype or merely chatting, in fact I'm positively lazy. But for a service or product, it is unforgivable :)

    From what I can see, it's located in Turkey, so we can offer fixes if they want to ask :)
     
  7. selimanac

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    You are right. We are bunch of game developers trying to build something useful for the community (i hope). None of us native Eng. speaker. So do you want to help about grammar?
     
  8. selimanac

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    There isn't a company behind it. We are just a group of game developers. So we thought it's not necessary to add lots of stuff to the landing page. I think it's not important who we are. But i can promise that we are not spamming... Just trying to build something useful.
     
  9. Ryiah

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    Except it is very important because you've made a statement about yourself in your advertising. It doesn't have to be extensive but it should at least be something along the lines of logos for each major group and individual. Otherwise your claim of "by game developers" is nothing more than an empty statement and may as well be removed.
     
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  10. selimanac

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    Completely agree with you. There is nothing more to say. We'll be glad if you want to help :)
     
  11. selimanac

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    fair enough :)
     
  12. Kiwasi

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    I'll ask the same question I ask every free promotional service that pops up on here. How do you plan to solve the flooding problem?
     
  13. goat

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    Really?

    Automated promotion distributors sending far too many uncaring and not thought out automated promotions to humans will just eliminate the ability of honest humans to contact other honest humans about evaluating their app or game.

    robotsaid.com is a product designed to separate you from your money with no real utility.
     
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  14. MaxieQ

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    As a game developer, I'm absolutely outraged that I can't find a plumber in these parts. So, to help other game developers, I'm going to start a plumbing business because that's what people do. I have no experience of plumbing, but that's not a problem. We just want to help folks out, right?

    A friend of mine is thinking about going into brain surgery for the same reasons. It's the sharing economy, after all.
     
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    If your serious - you need to form a business right away - get a lawyer, who is experienced with copyright law, an all that is involved with entertainment law, technology, trademark, IP, etc
    You need someone in your local office (group) (garage) who knows English, both written and verbal.
    And its also important to have a person who knows about marketing, advertising, brand recognition and most important has hands on experience in theae areas with several successfully released titles under there belts.

    Without any of these - this really isnt a serious thing.
     
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  16. selimanac

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    If you mean the press release submitions, answer is moderation. Also we got filters for publishers(magazines, youtubers ext..) like target country, press release language, platform, category etc...
    If you mean the storage, we got cloud server sponsor. Also we are using s3 for backups.
     
  17. selimanac

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    Thanks for the advice
     
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  18. Kiwasi

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    Thanks. Your answer has provided an adequate assessment of your capacity. ;)
     
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  19. Dustin-Horne

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    Given the sheer volume of grammatical errors on the site I'd be terrified to have them building press releases for me.
     
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  20. Ryiah

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    Do they actually make anything? I thought it was just a distribution service for existing materials.
     
  21. Dustin-Horne

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    I have no idea. The home page mentioned all press releases being SEO Friendly so I assumed there was content creation involved, but maybe it's just templating and formatting.
     
  22. goat

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    Their English in no way scares me off but if they will be really going reviewing and moderating, including testing and maturity rating, what they are willing to promote that I think they can be a help. In time they will build up a reputation as an independent reviewer but until they do that saying you are a promoter carries no more wait than I saying I'm a promoter. If they are good and honest at it they can become independent publishers of indie games. I don't see that here yet though.

    They need to go into specifics about what they are going to do.

    I will give them a try, i.e. follow then on FB, because something I hadn't considered before is they can be an learned filter of all the other hucksters pedaling whatnot...
     
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  23. darkhog

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    I will keep a close look on this service and when the time is right, use it. Since it's free, in worst case I'll just lose a bit of time, in best I'll get to popular and semi-popular gaming sites and YT channels, that I don't even know about.

    //edit: That being said, I'll also do mail big sites such as RPS, but this, if it works will help me increase my reach.
     
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  24. GarBenjamin

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    Grammar and spelling don't seem very important these days judging by many popular games I have played.

    I think it's just something to be expected as now a huge number of games and related services are being created by people all over the world. I'm sure it bothers some people. It used to annoy me but after seeing such things probably thousands of times over the past few years I kind of just filter it out at this point.

    It's a nice looking site. The summary info on it seems good. The problem I see is the summary info seems to be all that is there. I'd expect to be able to click on each of those front page items such as Distribute Everywhere and get some details on their "list of channels". Even a simple list of categories with a count for each channel they submit to in that category.

    Actually looking at it I have the impression this is just an early WIP thrown out to gauge interest and collect contact information from interested parties. Testing the waters perhaps to determine if it is worth their time to proceed. Could be wrong. Just my impression as it is now.
     
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    It is for me though. My standards are intended to be above AAA, even though I will probably never reach it. Aim for the sky, not the ground. Translations are all professionally paid for and checked too.
     
  26. darkhog

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    The problem with aiming for the sky is that sometimes you can shot yourself when bullet/arrow falls down on your head.
     
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    Why would anyone be stupid enough to aim directly upward, and why would you pick that by default?
     
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  28. Kiwasi

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    As a long term forum mod you should have a good appreciation of the capacity of people to be stupid. ;)
     
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  29. FuzzyQuills

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    A comedy show? COUNT ME IN! :p
     
  30. goat

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    Yes, so watch it shooting those bullets in the air come New Year's, they come down somewhere. I once shot an arrow straight up in the air when I lived in LaGrange, Georgia as a kid and it took me about an hour to find it (stuck straight down in the ground on the railroad track hidden behind the trees in our yard).
     
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  31. carking1996

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    If your native language isn't English, let people know here, there are people who can help with assistance.. This whole small paragraph shows tons of grammatical issues..

    It should be something along the lines of..

     
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  32. dogzerx2

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    It'd be quite a feat to successfully shoot a bullet and have it land on your head.
     
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  33. goat

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    I have read of that happening but that would be difficult. My arrow was about 1/4 mile away.
     
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  34. goat

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    I like the original better for the demographic and market they are serving and they sound quite capable of good formal English with a little effort. On the web for their target audience you should use a linguistic construct that sounds more like a friendly person talking to you.

    If you were not in the business of promoting games, say you were promoting medical or civil engineering businesses then you'd take a whole different tact and likely not use the web at all and write in the more formal style you use. You do that for non-native speakers of English that likely won't know what 'tons of' means and other such slang sayings; in those fields technical conciseness and correctness is crucial.

    ...but that's my 2 cents...
     
  35. carking1996

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    Yes, but proper grammar is important.. such as using 'built' instead of 'build' in the sentence. You shouldn't stray away from that.
     
  36. goat

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    LOL, well you forget the new product development paradigm...nothing is ever built but instead they build and then they build some more. I suppose I've listed to non-native and slang speaking English speakers too long.

    I agree though, in that the site is far too wordy and much could be better communicated with symbols and fewer words or at least they could use those floaty help blurbs when you hover over a bullet point.

    e.g.

    (WWW Icon) SEO Friendly (All press releases are SEO friendly and indexable from Search Engine bots)

    delete the words in parenthesis or have a information blurb show up with those or similar words when you hover over it.

    I have to say, my computer actually struggles with sites like Wal*Mart especially and Amazon (Amazon not so much) and just about every popular media site. My computer is 5 years old true but it perplexes me that don't these site developers test their sites? People ain't going to wait 10 minutes for a video or flash ad to take the whole screen, play, and then have to close it to read a 2 minute fluff article.

    The robotsaid.com needs their website to reflect speed and clear, clean, concise communication and their website doesn't do that as good as it could although it's not the worse. At least the site loads within a minute's time and reading that home page really sums it up pretty good. That's more notable than the informal English.

    However, there are a few bad English mistakes that even writing in an informal style doesn't allow like possession mistakes like Dev's. It should say 'Built for You by Game Developers' to make it friendly without being forward or sounding too technical.
     
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  37. Ryiah

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    Is that why I keep crashing? :eek:

     
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  38. Kiwasi

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    Asymmetric craft are b#%@#'s to fly.

    That said I did manage to get a space plane to orbit for the first time yesterday. Does it count if I did it by ditching the wings and tail at 10,000 m and flying it like a symmetric rocket the rest of the way?
     
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  39. FuzzyQuills

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    Good one. :)
    Is this Kerbal Space Program? :D
     
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    That looks quite symmetric to me... Unless that's not what you meant. :D
     
  41. Kiwasi

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    Yes. It's an incredible game.

    It has reflective symmetry, that is a line drawn down the middle can be used like a mirror. But it doesn't have radial symmetry, meaning that rotating it around its centre won't give the same shape.

    Looking at the picture it looks like the centre of thrust is offset significantly from the centre of mass. This causes the rocket to turn in one direction. The easiest way to overcome this is by making the craft radially symmetrical.

    I've spent way too many hours on that game.
     
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  42. darkhog

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    Then you didn't shoot straight up, but on an angle. A very shallow one, but still.
     
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    Good point. Even the works you upload as a developer are 'build 1.x" and such.
     
  44. Ryiah

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    Wind. :p
     
  45. FuzzyQuills

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    Ah, I see now. That makes sense actually, there was a point some time back where I was designing a vehicle for a game, and for more accurate design, I tried to imagine how the ship would turn if the thruster power was adjusted...

    Perhaps KSP would be a good tool? :D (Probably not... )
     
  46. Teila

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    Press releases in English with poor grammar and spelling? Will any worthwhile indie game website accept a poorly written press release? If so, do you want your press release to be alongside others that might have decent grammar and spelling?

    It might not bug you guys, but trust me, it bugs a significant portion of our society and it just looks unprofessional. If you want to gain a following of dedicated followers as an indie game developer, you need to be above and beyond the rest, which means not sending out releases with poor grammar and poor spelling. It makes you look careless...and careless means you might not care really about what you do. Who wants to invest time, money and their good faith in someone who doesn't appear to care?

    I agree with others here. Great to see a group of game developers trying to help others. Find someone who can write English...and any other language you want to use for the promotions and use them. I worked on a British team..yeah, they do know English, but I had to learn how to spell so many words with the British spelling. :) Now that we have our own team, I have had to remember....use armor, not armour. :)
     
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  47. FuzzyQuills

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    Probably better than what I call facebook language... ;)
    translation of "the quick brown fox..." statement to FaceBook language:
    "the quick brown fox jumps lazy dog and lazy dog very lazy"

    My best attempt... :D
     
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  48. Teila

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    Yeah, but you know what? When I post to my friends and family with Facebook and make an error, no one really cares. My friends and family know me and they dismiss a little typo/spelling issue once in a while.

    But..if I post that way on my professional posts I look either uneducated or I look like I don't care enough about the way I present myself and my product.
     
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    Yes, very true, it most definitely applies to those who use facebook on their phone. (That gets messy after a while...)