[RELEASED] ProBuilder 2.0 : Seamless, Intuitive Level Design in Unity. Finally LIVE!

Setting hard and soft edges is already possible with PB - it's in the Texture Editor under Smoothing.

Regarding the first point, merging/splitting vertices is in the pipeline. Not sure on ETA yet for that though

Beyond trimming down vert counts and manipulating normals, what other requirements uses does ProBuilder not satisfy that you would require Blender for? This kind of feedback is fantastic for making ProBuilder better, thanks for taking the time to respond.

 

I'll hit you up with a list sometime this weekend. One thing off the top of my head that I noticed using PB Free was the lack of paint sizing info. Right now you have to go by the grid snaps to figure out the size of a brush/polygon, and it's a pretty substantial kink in keeping your workflow fast and efficient when building real-life structures, especially interiors.

 

Only had 30 minutes to play around with it last night after picking up full copies of PB2 and ProGrids, but was wondering why the blue guide lines aren't showing from ProGrids, regardless if the toggle is on or off?

 

The lines only show in Orthographic mode - toggled by clicking the center of the scene gizmo.

 

Ah, I see. Don't think I've ever used the ortho views, aside from checking to see if Unity had any. It's fine, though, since they aren't really needed due to the snapping.

 

...but the Ortho views are your best friend! I seriously recommend using them. However, you'll be happy to know that ProGrids is being updated to also show in the perspective view.

 

Not really But neither are Crytek's or UDK's. Glad to hear Perspective is coming.

 

Ha, well, to each their own.

More importantly. ProBuilder 2.2 is just over the horizon. Testing the RC now. Extrude, Full Source, and much more!

 

Well, if you saw me build geo with Crytek's Solid tool (in Perspective) you'd understand! PB is pretty much the same, and with Perspective coming for ProGrids should almost be identical.

However... bummed that after I picked up the full version of PB that there still wasn't any size display info for selected brushes. When working with absolute dimensions such as door sizes, window sizes, ceiling heights, etc. it becomes very tedious getting brushes the right size.

 

Ah yes, the size info- we've had that in the list for a long time. Would love to have it myself, agreed.

We do have the grid texture, which will always be exactly 1 meter x 1 meter, as long as you don't scale the game object (scaling verts or faces is fine). That's what I generally use to count height/etc. Also, this free tool might help: https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/#/content/307

Regardless, agreed on the need for that utility, just a matter of time!

 

Hi, I'm using ProBuilder free (recently downloaded) to prototype some stuff, will purchase when I get to texturing phase =) I'm just noticing something strange though. It works great in the editor, but when I build the game all the ProBuilder objects behave crazy - most are missing, some have odd textures and craziest of all is that they are jittering around all over the place with no logic. I'm using Unity Pro 4.3.0.f. I find it difficult to search if this is something known since "build" is part of the actual asset name.

 

Hi Imphy- tell you what, let me send you our Top Secret, internal build of "Prototype", which is going to replace the free version of ProBuilder very soon. It's a much, much better tool, and I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. Just send me an email via the address in the documentation!

 

Looking forward to ProBuilder 2.2! I've been using PB since the first version and I have to say, it really speeds up our prototyping. It's a guarantee must have tool for Unity. We use it for all our projects!

I have a quick question though. Is it possible to have rounded corner cubes? It'll be great to build toon-like levels!

Waiting eagerly for the update to show in the Asset Store!

 

Thanks decarto, great to hear it's done so well for you!

Rounded corners, well, you'll be able to do that much more easily with the new version, that's for sure!

 

Obviously, this isn't perfect, but it's a good working method for now

 

what the?

 

regarding export to object with proper textures this will be fixed with 2.2 version?

 

I think this got buried way back in the thread (I'll make it more obvious), but I am always, always happy to send the tool right out to to anyone making truly awesome content and willing to feature ProBuilder alongside. Also, Prototype is only going to cost $15 or so

We'll try, but unfortunately I can't guarantee it. We are focusing on making ProBuilder's core (in-editor modeling), for this update. I understand the OBJ export is a major issue, though it should be fairly straightforward once we can focus on it.

 

@yahodahan

Just use:
http://wiki.unity3d.com/index.php?title=ObjExporter

Works fine with your PB brushes because it "snapshots" whatever is selected and exports to its own folder along with textures used (for quick and easy importing into a modelling application to do any clean-up work, and optimize.)

 

Thanks lod3, I do think we use that (or similar) already...though I could be wrong. All info posted to our basecamp project and is in the works!

 

PB cube exported from Unity into Maya using that script:

 

Heh, yeah...that's the issue. Now try importing into Max
EDIT: sorry, that wasn't very informative. It won't import to Max (in my experience), for some reason, but Maya works fine.

 

What issue? And why would an OBJ open differently in Maya/Max (not counting Y/Z Up)?

 

15 Dollars ?

 

Wondering the same...

 

Hang in there folks, uploads are happening, media is being assembled, and Prototype will be live soon..

 

Congrats for your new born

I guess the new version of PB is around the corner. Will that version include tools to build curved surfaces? Would be awesome to build something not rectangular, like a swimming pool or anything like this.

Would that be possible to build along a path (bezier path..) then to extrude along it? Would be fantastic to create long curved surfaces.

 

Curved surfaces aren't in the priority list, mainly we want to get the core better and better, before starting down the path of super-complex new features. We'd love to have that functionality too! Unfortunately, it's just one designer and one tech developer, doing what we can, as quickly as possible. And we really do want to hold our focus on keeping a solid, reliable core, even if we don't add flashy new features all the time.

Thank you for the congrats!

 

Prototype looks interesting but I can't figure out if I need if I already have ProBuilder. Can you explain?

 

If I get ProBuilder do I also need to get ProGrid/ProGroup etc or are they included in ProBuilder?

 

If you have ProBuilder, you don't need Prototype Prototype is essentially a "lite" version of ProBuilder, but also optimized for quick and simple proto-construction.

ProGrids and ProGroups are seperate, yes. This is so that we can make them work with all Unity objects, not just ProBuilder. Also, we figure some people might not have a need for them (madness! ).

 

Thanks, just wanted to make sure before I clicked buy..

 

No problem! ProGroups will be going live very soon, just need to fix up a couple small issues.

 

Did you just remove the automatic pivot set after editing? Is there a way we could get an option to toggle that? I like it being automatic.

 

+1

 

It may have been accidentally dropped- I'll look into it. Toggles, so many toggles in the Preferences panel! I don't mind the clutter there though, always happy to give people more options.

 

Thanks!

I think I found another issue with the pivots. Sometimes meshes are moving away from the pivot point after playing then stopping.

CTRL-J isn't setting the pivot properly to the center of mass for some meshes. When moving the object, setting pivot, playing, stopping, the pivot remains where it was set, but the mesh moves a certain distance offset from that point.

 

Hmm. What version of ProBuilder do you have, and what version of Windows? Can you replicate this in a clean project? Also, do you happen to have the mesh selected when play/stop?

That'll help me narrow it down. Thanks!

 

Version 2.1.4b7.I just realised it's related to being a prefab. Maybe it's just an unsupported feature right now. I can't remember if this used to work or not.

• Create a probuilder cube.
• Make it a prefab.
• Resize it.
• CTRL-J set pivot. (Top-level or Geometry mode - doesn't matter which).
• Play then Stop.

If you don't apply the prefab the mesh will move. Also, if you set the pivot after stopping (in Top-level mode), it sets it to the face you selected to resize the object, instead of the center.

 

New probuilder 2.0 user here having a blast grayboxing my first level

But I've run into an issue. My vertex color assignments on the Probuilder cube faces do not save I do use a Source control but I have the unity map file checked out, etc. Anyone experience this??

 

No one else experiencing vertex color assignments not saving eh? I guess I'll look into doing a fresh reinstall later then to see if that resolves it.

 

You'll no doubt want ProGrids. I wanted it within 30 mins of working on my 1st graybox and purchased it asap.

 

Thanks for the detailed steps Stardog! Do we have you as a registered user? If you could email me directly, I can add you (and other registered users, hey people!!) to the Beta Testing Group, where you can download the latest internal versions and post on the group there if you have any issues still. It really, really helps when users can test out the tools and give feedback in-development. Thanks!

 

Hmm, I haven't seen that at all. As mentioned to StarDog, could you register (if not already just email me), so I can get you into the Beta Testing Group? Thanks!

Thanks for the +1! I do highly, highly recommend ProGrids (ignore the bias). I'm trying to get a bundle ready before the holidays!

 

I just picked up Probuilder and Progrids yesterday and I am loving them. Absolutely fantastic pair of tools (I'm anxiously awaiting progroups to go live on the asset store).

Only thing I've run into so far is face colours not saving like sandboxgod did.

Keep up the great work and thank you for the awesome tools

 

Thanks BrokeSpace! Could you also email me to register, so we can set you up with the Beta Testing group? Still not able to reproduce that error here, but more data on how it happens to your project would be very helpful.

ProGroups is practically done! Just writing documentation and making tutorial videos

 

I've got a rather noobish question I'm hoping you can answer before I take the leap into ProBuilder to see if it is appropriate.

If I create a single object in ProBuilder(or take existing mesh), and want to apply different substance textures to different faces does it automatically adjust the UV's and then merge the substance materials into a new "normal" material that is UV mapped correctly? Or will I end up with one model with a billion different materials applied?

Ideally I would be able to model my meshes in ProBuilder and never have to export out and use tools like Blender/Substance Designer to UV and texture it. Not sure if that is possible however.

 

Hi tiggus- thanks for the interest!

When you edit the scale, rotation, etc, with ProBuilder, the material isn't modified at all- just the UV coordinates. So, you can take one material and use it a million different ways on some ProBuilder objects/faces, and you'll still have just one material (1 theoretical drawcall)

However, materials can't be merged, so if you paint 3 different materials on, you will have 3 (theoretical) drawcalls.

I think what you might be looking for is Texture Atlasing- merging the textures together, and using one single material to reference those all at once. We have had this in our sights for a long time, but it's a tricky feature- having both Tiling (repeating) and Atlasing at the same time.

You could absolutely use ProBuilder to replace much of your level design work, vs Blender/etc. Especially with the much more advanced weld, extrude, and subdivide features that are just about ready. However, any super-complex or "organic" models would always be better off created in a dedicated 3D tool. For now anyway- ProBuilder is moving forward quickly!

 

Thanks for the quick reply, yes you stated it correctly what I was really asking about in so many words is combining materials and generating a texture atlas similar to one of GameDraw's functions(don't get me started on that tool however it drives me nuts on OSX).

I'll give ProBuilder a shot and if someday you get a combine materials/texture atlasing option in that would be fantastic.

Thanks!

 

Hi Tiggus,

Good to know I figured it out- I think I was rambling a bit up there, haha.

Texture atlasing itself is simple- I think Unity even has this built right in, you can just "hook into" it. What gets tricky, and nobody has this yet that I know of, is being able to tile textures inside the atlas- that's essentially "eating your cake and having it too", heh. It would be a massively powerful optimization tool! Needless to say- we are definitely working towards it.

Thanks Tiggus!
gw