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[RELEASED] Pinball Creator

Discussion in 'Assets and Asset Store' started by Tropical-Studio, Aug 17, 2016.

  1. CaliCoastReplay

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    Also, I have a question about the features:

    The bumpers, slingshots, basic features work wonderfully out of the box.

    I have been having trouble getting the balls to have enough power to go up ramps, however, if I adjust the default angle.

    Are there anything like speed boosts or other ways to enable an angled ramp? I would love to make a table that is multi-level in the upper region! :)
     
  2. Tropical-Studio

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    Hi,
    If you want the ball to enter the ramp more easily you can add invisible colliders that will facilitate the entry into the ramp.
    When the ball enters the ramp more smoothly, the ball goes higher.

    Pinball_Image_01.jpg
     
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  3. Geoffc

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    Suggested Features:

    Cabinet mode options so the camera is locked if the player turns it on in an options menu. Also the ability for the player to adjust playfield position and camera zoom and the digital scoreboard position x and y coordinates and size in pixels on the screen and back glass image x and y coordinates and size in pixels on the screen. Would need a GUI menu for the player to set them up and a file for the config to be saved in.

    Sound source options, so the player can config table sound output to a different audio device and background music to a different device. Great for people playing in a cabinet using tactile feedback speakers for the table noise and ball movement.

    Why? Many virtual pinball enthusiasts are using cabinets. Cabinets are not all the same size and are not all set up the same way so these in-game options will make it easier to create a game with this asset that can be used by cabinet owners.
     
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  4. tim44

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    I was hoping to play pinball on quest with this, but could only get it to work on oculus rift. On quest I get audio and it's stuck on the three loading dots, the oculus dashboard becomes unavailable and I have to power off the quest. Any ideas? It's android based.
    Sometimes if I take the headset off and then back on when it's locked up it shows the table for a split second, before displaying the loading dots again.
     
  5. Tropical-Studio

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    Hi,
    Sorry but i have no oculus quest to test.
    Hope you find a solution.
     
  6. Masivemono

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    Good afternoon I have a very rare issue, when I am in the unity editor, the game works, but when I export to the mobile, the ui stays locked in the first scene and does not respond, do you know why it can be? thanks
     
  7. Tropical-Studio

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    Hi,
    Can you send me an email with more informations
    so that we can reproduce the bug
    - Step by step process
    - Unity version you use
    - Mobile you use
    - Your computer configuration
     
  8. Masivemono

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    It is already solved, the error was mine, I put the same popup in two different scenes when exporting, thanks
     
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  9. ELDEVELOPER

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    Hi, I want to buy the system, I only have 2 questions

    Does the asset have a game manager? ... I need things like starting the game, closing the game, level selector, scoring system and so on (and optimizing)

    And finally, there is the possibility that you can implement the new LWRP technique for cell phones with particles and explosions, creating more mechanics and changing their gameplay a bit.


    Thank you
     
  10. ivanixgames

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    Hello, a couple of questions.
    First are there any additional theme packs or asset packs available? Either from the original developer or others.
    Second, I would like to see about making a hybrid pinball / foosball type game with 2 or 4 players each controlling separate paddles. Or perhaps a 2-4 player pinball game where two cabinets are joined in the middle and balls can go into either one. Asking about the feasibility. Any thoughts welcome.
     
  11. Tropical-Studio

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    Hi,
    Sorry but Pinball Creator is not design to do what you want.
     
  12. Banksy

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    Just purchased & have V.R (Oculus Quest) integration up an running... took some tweaking but it now runs smooth as.

    I notice there are nested prefabs inside " MeshCombinerv2 " components. Is this purely for optimisation ? I'd like to remove some to re-scale them.. is this ok?

    Here's a Video I created ... early days

     
    Last edited: Dec 9, 2019
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  13. Barronge

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    Im looking to get this to build a game for my coleagues at work but to distribute it the game needs to be a certain size. What is the average file size of a complete PC and IOS/Android app when finished?
     
  14. Tropical-Studio

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    Hi,
    Here are the file sizes:
    The size for a pc build (3 tables): about 250 Mo
    Size for android (1 table): : about 50/100 Mo
     
  15. shredingskin

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    Hello, Loving the asset, is fantastic.
    I have some questions;
    -I've copied the p_Mission_Bumper_x1_KickBack from the demo scene.
    The kickback does work, but it doesn't get deactivated after one use (even if the led is off).
    Any ideas what could be wrong ?
    -Also, what does debug camera toggle do ? I don't see any changes in the editor while I'm using it.
    -The camera gizmos are only for copying the rotation and I manage the distance from the script right ?
    - If I want to create mini scenes with the asset the way to go is just using a hole and putting it in the place I want the ball to be right ?

    Many thanks for making the asset, amazing stuff !
     
  16. Tropical-Studio

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    Hi,

    Do not copy a mission from one scene to another scene. If you want to learn how to easily create mission read Mission Creator Module page 33 in Pinball_Documentation_Part1.pdf

    Debug camera toggle is used to change the location of cameras.

    If you want to change the position of cameras:
    -In hierarchy tab select Pivot_Cam ( G_Game_Camera > Pivot_Cam )
    - Check Debug Cam View box

    Im_01.jpg

    -Press play bouton

    Im_02.jpg


    -Change Cam 1 pos Y and Cam 1 pos Z .


    Im_03.jpg

    -When you are satisfied with the position, note the 2 values on a paper (Cam 1 pos Y and Cam 1pos Z)
    -Press again play bouton to stop



    -Report the values in Cam 1 pos Y and Cam 1pos Z.
    Im_03.jpg
    - Uncheck Debug Cam View box
    -Now press play to test the new position
    -If you change Cam 1 you must report the value in Pivot_Cam Transform too ( not if you change cam2,3 or 4)

    Im_04.jpg

    Hope it helps
     
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  17. DoKannon

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    Hi dudes , which is the right size to make a background for the table?? thankz

    PD:Sorry about my english
     
  18. DoKannon

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    yep :)
     
  19. Tropical-Studio

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    Hi,
    Uvs are available on texture files.
    For more information read Documention Part 1 FAQ section 6: "How to modify pinball Illustration ( cabinet, playfield, leds..)"
     
  20. GammaBadger

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    Hi,

    Are there a plans to upgrade to the Universal Render Pipeline? If not
     
  21. Tropical-Studio

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    Hi,
    Here is a pdf that will allow you to convert your Pinball Creator project into Universal Render Pipeline
     

    Attached Files:

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  22. ftejada

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    Hi @Tropical-Studio !
    Do you have a version of your asset and its materials prepared for HDRP ???

    Regards
     
  23. Tropical-Studio

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    Hi,
    There is no HDRP ready to use version.
    Here a step by step PDF to convert easily Pinball Creator to HDRP
     

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  24. ftejada

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    Ok. Thanks!!
     
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  25. kholera

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    I am working with this asset and was wondering why objects cannot be moved during play. I wanted to try moving ramps up and down, or replacing them with other objects, for example, but it does not seem to allow position updates during play. If I pause the game and use the editor window to drag an object across the board, the object will appear to move in the editor, but once I unpause the game, the object will revert back to its previous position. What is the reason that objects cannot be moved during play? Is this something that can be disabled? Thank you.
     
  26. Tropical-Studio

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    Hi,
    It is not possible to animate an object if it is "Static".
    To solve the problem:
    -Click on the triangle icon.
    -Uncheck "Batching static"


    Static.jpg
     
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  27. kholera

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    Thank you very much for clarifying.

    If I may ask, is there a reason that the default is to set them to static?

    Also, a second question: I have noticed that if I pause the game in editor, select and translate the pinball, then resume game, that the game's framerate suffers heavily. Do you know why this happens? Thank you.
     
  28. Tropical-Studio

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    Hi,
    1- This allows a better optimization of the framerate
    2-I'm not sure to understand what you do but :
    there are a lot of possible reasons that make the framerate slow down: number of lights / objects / tris / shadows ...
     
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  29. jbizzy129

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    Hello I have 2 questions. If I wanted to create my own led shapes, example a shape like lightning or fire, would i have to create the FBX models first in a modeling program, then edit the PSD files in photoshop? I am confused. I'm looking for something like this

    https://www.pinball.center/en/shop/...ecals-overlays/9232/insert-decal-set-for-fire

    My next question is if i have the ball in a tube that is a complete circle. How can i insure that the ball will move counterclockwise, ie rigidbody addforce? I want to force the ball to move clockwise continuously but do not know how

    BallFoward.png
     
  30. Tropical-Studio

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    Hi,

    To create your own shapes of leds, you must modify the PSD files Included in the asset.
    For more informations read Pinball_Documentation_Part1 :
    - 06° How to modify pinball illustration (cabinet, playfield, leds ...)
    - 01° How to customize led sprite

    About the second question:
    Sorry but what you want is not available because it's not possible to add force to control the ball.
     
  31. cmf2k3

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    Yo. I'm working on making a Touhou-themed Pinball table using this engine, but I've ran into a slight hiccup. You see, I want my table to have a mission format akin to Zen Pinball/Pinball FX, where you complete one primary mission to trigger one of multiple sub missions. Once you complete all of the sub missions, you unlock a final grand mission referred to as "Wizard Mode". I got the primary mission set up, but I'm having trouble figuring out how to make completing it trigger one of the sub missions. How exactly do you do that, if at all possible?
     
  32. kholera

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    Hello and thank you for responding. For #1, could you answer whether or not it is doable to turn off static settings on the pinball table pieces? I would like to be able to move them mid-game, and want to ensure that this won't either crash or cause drastic problems with playing the game.

    As for the performance hit, the only thing I did was load the demo table in editor (octopus), start the game, pause it, select the ball object, translate it using the translate tool, and then resume the game. After doing so, my framerate plummeted from full-speed to a noticeable stagger, around 10-20fps. I don't have any play problems normally, so I am not sure why this would be. Could you offer any insights? I am on unity 2019.3.12f1 on windows 10 x64.
     
  33. Tropical-Studio

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    Hi,
    Sorry but this feature is not available in Pinball Creator
     
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  34. Tropical-Studio

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    Hi,
    If you want to deactivate static:
    -Select your object.
    -In the right corner of Inspector tab click on arrow icon.
    -Uncheck batching static.

    About the second point:
    Sorry but I do not understand.
    Can you explain to me what reason you pause the game and then translate the ball with the translate tool.
     
  35. kholera

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    Thanks for replying. As for point two, in this case it was that I wanted to test how the ball would respond to translation. My interest is in adding my own code and objects which would, in-game, move the ball by a constant amount, ie. making an elevator which, when the ball goes inside of it, lifts the ball up to a higher platform, or a grabber arm that grabs the ball and moves it to another location before then dropping it. Is this sort of thing supported in pinball creator through translation, or is it something that would have to be done purely as an animation, perhaps deleting the ball from scene, showing an animation of the ball moving, and then re-instantiating it at the new location? I do not want to attempt to make this work by pure physics, as this would be difficult to control the desired effect.

    Also, I have been interested in objects being not static so that they would be able to be moved during the game. For example, I would like to move a wall or ramp after the player presses a button on the game controller. This is just one example. I see that bumpers, for example, can be moved at runtime without a problem. On other objects, however, I am able to select the entire piece, for example, p_board_turn_90_03B, but when I try to translate it, the collider moves, but the 3D objects do not. Is this something that can be changed or is the position of the visible part of some objects set and not able to change at runtime? Thank you for this answer.
     
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  36. Tropical-Studio

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    Hi,
    Ok, I understand what you want to do.
    Unfortunately, currently this features is not available in Pinball Creator.
    On the other hand by using the holes and the targets, I think that you can manage to create a gameplay close to what you want to do.
     
  37. cmf2k3

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    I've got another issue with the package. I'm adding a vertical mini-playfield to my table right on top of the LCD screen. The only problem is that the camera is finnicky, and only goes foward and back and not up and down. I believe I can remedy this by adding in some code within the source code files that creates a seperate camera similar to the plunger camera just for the mini-playfield. However, I have no clue exactly how to do that. Any tips?
     
  38. Tropical-Studio

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    Hi,

    Sorry but the system is not designed to do what you want.
    You can try out the Focus Camera system (Pinball_Documentation_Part2.pdf section 5.5 Create a new Focus Cam page 55).
    This will create a fixed camera at the location of your mini-playfield.
     
  39. cmf2k3

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    I tried that, but the Focus Cam system is super confusing, and no matter how I orient the cam, I can't seem to get it to go to the vertical mini-playfield
     
  40. manicmambo

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    Hello, I'm considering to buy it but I have a couple of newbie questions:

    1. Can I learn Pinball Creator straight from the documentation or do I need basic Unity skills first?

    2. Is it possible to turn the table sideways and play in locked cabinet view? I think it was requested here: https://forum.unity.com/threads/released-pinball-creator.426338/page-9#post-4552315

    3. I've probably seen some tables made with Creator but it always seems to me the ball is flying around very fast when hit by the flippers. I'm thinking of some slower EM games - is it possible to adjust elasticity, friction, flipper speed, table angle, etc. ?
     
  41. Tropical-Studio

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    Hi,
    First thank you for interest about Pinball Creator :)

    1. Can I learn Pinball Creator straight from the documentation or do I need basic Unity skills first?
    Pinball Creator doesn’t need coding skills but it will be easier to start if you have some Unity basic skills.

    2. Is it possible to turn the table sideways and play in locked cabinet view? I think it was requested here

    3. I've probably seen some tables made with Creator but it always seems to me the ball is flying around very fast when hit by the flippers. I'm thinking of some slower EM games - is it possible to adjust elasticity, friction, flipper speed, table angle, etc. ?

    For question 2 and 3. Pinball Creator is not designed to recreate real pinball and/or real physics. The asset is designed to have fun creating Pinball using the included physics and parameters without coding knowledge.

    If you want to use the asset you have to consider you will use the ball feeling included in the asset.
     
  42. Archmaster7

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    I'm having difficulty importing the project. When I import it I get these errors:


    The referenced script (Unknown) on this Behaviour is missing!

    The referenced script (Unknown) on this Behaviour is missing!

    The referenced script (Unknown) on this Behaviour is missing!

    The referenced script (Unknown) on this Behaviour is missing!

    The referenced script on this Behaviour (Game Object 'sc_Roll_Over_Metal_zl') is missing!

    The referenced script on this Behaviour (Game Object 'sc_Roll_Over_Metal_zl') is missing!

    The referenced script on this Behaviour (Game Object 'sc_Roll_Over_Metal_zl') is missing!

    The referenced script on this Behaviour (Game Object 'sc_Roll_Over_Metal_zl') is missing!

    NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
    switchMech.Start () (at Assets/Pinball Creator/Assets/Script/Mechanics/Switch/switchMech.cs:23)

    NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
    switchMech.Start () (at Assets/Pinball Creator/Assets/Script/Mechanics/Switch/switchMech.cs:23)

    NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
    Spinner_LapCounter.Start () (at Assets/Pinball Creator/Assets/Script/Mechanics/Spinner/Spinner_LapCounter.cs:29)

    NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
    switchMech.Start () (at Assets/Pinball Creator/Assets/Script/Mechanics/Switch/switchMech.cs:23)

    NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
    switchMech.Start () (at Assets/Pinball Creator/Assets/Script/Mechanics/Switch/switchMech.cs:23)

    NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
    switchMech.Start () (at Assets/Pinball Creator/Assets/Script/Mechanics/Switch/switchMech.cs:23)

    NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
    switchMech.Start () (at Assets/Pinball Creator/Assets/Script/Mechanics/Switch/switchMech.cs:23)

    There are no audio listeners in the scene. Please ensure there is always one audio listener in the scene

    I've tried Unity 2020.3.0F1 and 2019.4.21f1 with no success.
     
  43. Tropical-Studio

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    Hi,

    I tested on version 2020.3.1f1 and it works for me.

    Pinball Creator is a complete projects.

    Follow this step by step to import Pinball Creator:
    1 Create a new empty project
    2 Import the asset
    3 When the pop window appears : "Importing a complete project will overwrite your current project setting..."
    Click "Import" button

    Im_Pinball_01.jpg

    4 When the pop window appears : "The unity Package has Package Manager dependencies"
    Click "Skip" button

    Im_Pinball_02.jpg
     
  44. zer0tobackdown

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    Hello, I am getting close to finishing my first table using this software, which is absolutely amazing by the way, I have run into very little issues with it even though I know nothing about actual coding. I do have a question, I have absolutely no idea how to implement an online leaderboard, I assume I’d have to pay a 3rd party server to host it but I have no clue where to even begin on something like that. Does anyone have any suggestions, links, websites, or ideas I could go about implementing this into the title? Any help is greatly appreciated, my table looks pretty sweet I can’t wait to share it with the world soon, would be a shame if I can’t get the online leaderboard going. I know steam has some sort of leaderboard I don’t know anything about it but if the game will be on steam maybe that’s an option? It’s my first title release and I’m still doing the paperwork for steam so I don’t know much about it
     
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