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Discussion in 'Assets and Asset Store' started by berk-maketafi, Sep 17, 2015.
An asset will lots of promises, but much more bugs never fixed.
Many years ago. Then later released on Daz. Probably gone there now too.
Depends on what you are looking for. That particular effort is done and gone, but they have a "not quite the same" thing under a different name, TAFI.
Probably. They abandoned this a long time ago. I doubt Unity would keep it up.
Yes unfortunately we discontinued it but we did open-source and release it on github some time ago which you can check out here: https://github.com/mcs-sdk/mcs or one of the various forks from other users.
i have asked on a thread titled where to find artist tools if there is a place to get the artist tools since the mcsdownload site is down now, but with no reply and it occurs to me that many of the vets from this thread don't have that thread watched. so I apologize for asking across multiple posts where there is already a thread for this, but is there a place to get the artist tools still?
The server where I kept all of the MCS stuff was hacked last year and I haven't gotten stuff back up yet. I'll see about getting that setup again in the next day or so.
thankfully all of your github stuff was still there. i am using your MCS ver 9.2 for the character generator I am working on.
on a side note i am having the same issue as another poster and I didn't see his issue get resolved. I am using ru_erikvdb's method of changing eye color, using the same textures he provides for example. the problem is it doesn't work until i unfold the head shader on LOD_0. As soon as I unfold the shader the proper overlay texture appears and the eyes change color and any further material.SetTexture() works for the overlay. thanks in advance for any advice on this.
Again thank you to all the vets on this thread that have worked so hard on this asset.
Hey guys, I know this is a long shot, but I see people still replying on this thread, so I figured it couldn't hurt to ask.
Does anyone know where I can get alternate head and body textures for the MCS characters? Specifically other races, such as People of Colour, etc?
I am using MCS for a long-running passion project and even though I know I will need to replace it eventually, it will take a LOT of work to find or create a replacement, so I am trying to get as much life out of it as I can.
However in the "materials" Directory I can only see a single Caucasian skin, and then a "Fur", "Creature" and "Zombie" skin.
Were there ever any asset packs that I could get to add some variety to the human textures?
Thanks a lot for any advice!
Tafi - which is the same people, and in the asset store - has more human racial art than MCS ever did. But I don't know how compatible it is. I'd imagine that if you know how to use a 3D modeler, like Blender, you could project those textures onto any base model you want.
The Darius and Monique texture are in the "alternate" folder just one directory deeper than the ones you've already found. I believe the rest of what you are looking for is included in the MCS asset bundle on daz. I've not used any of the alternate races and species, but I did use the Darius and Monique texture to create a new shader that alpha blends between then default and the darker for my character editor.
Yes, I've heard of tafi! It looks very good, but the two issues that I have with it are, firstly, I'm not sure if I would want to trust the same company again after the way MCS went, and secondly, it seems more for cartooney avatars, rather than for photorealisitic characters?
Maybe they've changed that recently, I have't kept track of their progress.
In any case, I doubt it would be compatible with MCS, it seems to be a totally different system.
I can't seem to find those?
I am looking in M3DMale/Materials/Textures/Alternate, and there are some textures in there, but they seem to be more or less the same as the standard one?
My M3D install is old though, real old, maybe I don't have the "Darius" and "Monique" textures installed?
Is there somewhere online I could get them?
What you are doing is exactly what I am trying to do: Create a shader that blends between the default and a darker texture to create some variation in the skin tone for players to then customise to their liking.
my apologies, the alternate folders are where the underwear texture are, the dariues and monique texture have their own folders in the materials folder. try creating a new project with a new version and stealing the texture you want out of it.
Well, if you want to get a closer look at Tafi, there is a free model in the asset store: https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/3d/characters/humanoids/humans/starter-bundle-from-tafi-192235
I had read that needed to use enableKeyword on the material but thought that it was unsuccessful, turns out you have to enable "_OVERLAY" instead of "OVERLAY". problem solved.
public void setEyeColorTexture(int value)
Material headMaterial = character.GetHairMaterial();
Thank you! I just did what you suggested, and you're right, I now have some very nice looking "Darius" and "Monique" textures.
How did you shader work exactly, to interpolate between the two texture types?
Thank you, I'll check that out!
depends on which shader you're extending, but the process boils down to pretty much just lerping the albedo to the darker texture.
darktex = lerp(tex2D(_MainTex, i_tex.xy), tex2D(_DarkTex, i_tex.xy), _DarkValue);
o.diffColor = darktex;
also fyi i changed all of the skin shaders including the old ones, basicskin and deferred. deferred doesn't work exactly right. however, I'm sure the fix for it is somewhere in this thread.
if you have learned how to read the amalgamation of code languages that unity uses for shaders then it's probably best to extend the volund shader and call it a day.
my best tip is that since this just replaces the texture it's best to do your overlay code after this.
That makes sense, thanks a lot!
I think I have modified my shaders at some point too, probably due to the guidance in the thread.
I'm working on putting up the stuff I had, which SHOULD have those textures in it. It'll probably be sometime this week.
Everyone that has worked so hard to keep Morph3D relevant deserve good karma. Especially EDarkness, ru_erikvdb, and ceebeee. Those off the top of my head after rereading through most of the end of this thread in the past couple weeks. Thanks a lot guys.
Note Morph3D and MCS characters do not have the same textures or UVs. I don't think the M3D ones came with darker skin. With MCS the Darius and Monique alternative textures are included. I've blended between the two via shader before, but I found that things like eyebrows get a bit too faded so more recently I've done it in Photoshop.
By the way, if anyone is using my 2019 MR patch files: I found that they no longer work in Unity 2021.3 and up. I've used my MCS toolkit to generate new MR files for some of the assets but didn't bother to upload them since this thread seemed long dead. If anyone is interested in receiving the 2021 patch files, send me a DM.
Wow, you guys - @EDarkness, @ru_erikvdb et all are amazing still breathing life in to this project. I am still using the assets for canned videos with timeline. Would be nice to be able to upgrade to the latest version. Anyone tried 2022 LTS? Thanks
I just used @ru_erikvdb 's mcs-toolkit in 2022 (I had to put 2018 on a different pc as they wouldn't play nice together) and it all seems to works fine.
I'm somehow messing round with this stuff again, even using the Artist Tools! Thanks for the mcs-toolkit
I've just tested 2022 LTS as well as 2023 Beta and they seem to maintain the 2021 vertex mapping. When I have time I will create and upload MR patches for Unity 2021+ for all assets in the Daz MCS mega pack.
Until then, the way to do it yourself is using my mcs-toolkit to generate conversion maps in Unity 2017 and then processing them in 2021+. Or DM me to get sent the conversion maps (I won't upload them publicly because they contain mesh data that may be used to reverse-engineer the models, which is a legal grey zone I don't want to enter...)
Great to know that it still works. Let me try the toolkit and see if that works else I will reach out. Thanks !
It was raining non-stop during my holiday last week so I sat down and manually converted all the MR files for Unity 2021 and newer. Only to realize afterwards that I had already written a script to automate the process last time, lol.
Anyway, you can download the patch files here should you need them: https://www.socsci.ru.nl/vr/resources/mcs/patch/
The 2019 patch should work in Unity 2018.4 up to 2020.3
The 2021 patch should work in Unity 2021.1 up to 2023.1
Restart the editor after patching for changes to take effect.