procedural character generation

i made two screenshots: with correct situation and with disappear model

correct:



i didn't change position with female model so she is visible, but when i run some times with male model then change to female and, finally, back to male i see only this...



red circle show where should be male model (approximately) i dont know its bug with UMA or its only bug with GUI so i reported it....

 

I guess the real problem is that you some how managed to move your character in the first place. I guess I forgot to disable some script somewhere. That was unintended, and there is some code that apparently incorrectly reads the transform when rebaking the model. Stay in place and this problem shouldn't occur!

Edit: Yeah it seems Fernando's old run script was still in place directly on the prefab. I disabled the script so this shouldn't happen anymore. I'm pretty sure that line where it looks at the character's position should just be taking Vector3.zero and Quaternion.identity instead.

 

i knew but i like testing ALL situation and action

 

Cool, this will be a nice tool for all of us.

Facially the females look fine but as far as the ugliness of the rest of the models goes what you are noticing is that oily bodybuilder 0% fat and fake suntan painted on look but I think that is mostly textures. Replace the textures and you'll have pretty characters.

Also I saw no age sliders.

 

Nice polish, Unlogick
Specular level on cloth and hair is way too high, but overall it's a big improvement. We could still use the eye size/angle/colour. The white part of the eye is too bright. It's brownish in darker skinned people, and blueish in pale/white skinned people.

How's "Elf" coming along?

 

Her neck looks perfect. something looks really wrong with her face lol.. Missing Ambient Occlusion?

 

It's from the webplayer, so I've no idea what global graphics options like AO, AA, Aniso, etc are being used (I'm no artist, nor really on top of some of these terms). Certainly from what I can tell, the shaders are being pushed to the limits to get the diffuse, normal, specular, and all of the single bit masks into a single drawcall.

Looking forward to the next demo from UnLogick, see how things are progressing

 

Yeh indeed way too much specularity on cloths. Shader from Chickenlord (silk shader) would do awesome job there though.

 

brilliant mate

 

http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1018086/Photorealism-Through-the-Eyes-of

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2_9UhjyZDY

Marvelous designer 2 for clothes

 

Well I'm no artist I took the materials from Fernando, and then I changed the shaders! So its merely lack of calibration. Next version of the shaders will support scaling specular up and down on a per overlay level. That means you can adjust the specular of the hair only!

Well I started out with the shadowgun mobile skin shader, and then I added realistic lighting. (The mobile shader was optimized to only work with baked lightmaps only) and then I shuffled the channels around and added specular and gloss. I'll be doing some more work on the shader. About shader complexity, I decided to push the limits as far as I can within reason. It should still be cheaper than parallax and other really expensive shaders, but more expensive than regular bump mapped.

Today the shader uses its two free channels in the normal map to do specular and gloss. But I'll make a new one that does:
* half precision specular, +1 bit toggling organic vs metallic specular color.
* 8 intensities of sub surface scattering, 8 shades of gloss vs specular intensity.
Or something along those lines. To use this new overkill shader you'll need to use 32 bit textures!

The advantages is that you get SSS on skin. You get metallic specular vs organic specular. That means you'll be able to do piercings, robotic arms and armor in the same draw call as skin.

More power to tweak the eyes, I hear you loud and clear. About the white part of the eye I never noticed that, but its simply making the eye into two overlays, one for the iris and one for the white area, then you can blend in colors on those seperately. And write code logic to set a proper white color.

The elf is added as a teaser. As you may know I have a hobby mmo project on the side and I need an elf for that. The UMA framework itself will only contain sample humans. If you want elves, dragons and other races you'll have to make those yourself. Though I suppose the classic elf mesh would be taking the human and changing a few areas around the ears. And finally set the slider ranges that will enforce an elvish look.

The data values are sorted into classes called DNA, and the human uses a HumanoidDNA. A character can have multiple dna classes, so its possible to define a WingedDNA and use that together with HumanoidDNA to create winged humanoids like mythical pixies and angels.

The ui in the webplayer is made using a free 3rd party UI component called SkillUI. I grabbed the new version directly from his website and still had to do a lot of hacking to make it run on 4.x. I even had to add a few controls of my own to give me the controls I wanted. But I like that it gives object controls that render like regular Unity UI. Allowing me to create all the different input controls as one liners.

 

Thanks for the detailed insight into how the UMA works, and what areas are progressing...

I'm particularly interested in the DNA classes and structure, as I intend to create pretty much everything via scripting. I'm still at a loss as to understand how the meshed clothing is incorporated, particularly for materials. Can we have separate materials governing meshed clothing (ie texture and shader combo), or are they fully integrated into the UMA and therefore can only use the UMA material system?

Keep up the great work XD

Heh, I like the Elf teaser - and rock on with your MMO. Act deaf when people say one person can not make an MMO alone - yes they can. I'm doing it too

 

We bake them into atlasses based on shaders. If your slots/overlays use multiple shaders each of those will become a draw call on their own. All UMAData (avatars) have a reference to a UMAGenerator that handles any updates changes to it. This includes queuing changes for processing over time. You can specify a number of meshes its allowed to bake per frame. So in case of a teleport stuff will become available over time rather than everything freezing up as it tries to build 50 characters at once.

The UMAGenerator also holds the reference to the atlas baking shaders/scripts. So in case you make your own shader for emissive runes on player characters that requires 3 textures per material you can still use the default UMA shader on npcs using a different UMAGenerator for those.

 

Wait did unity buy the rights to UMA?

 

No they are working with Fernando to help get it released.

 

Hmm, that's quite a lot to take in all at once,

How are the meshed clothes applied to the model, so that they animate/deform with the model, yet can still have separate materials? Swords, hair, and other attachments move with the node they're attached to, but are separate models; clothing/armour is different, as it needs to animate/deform, so I would imagine, is applied to the model in a different manner.

I did look at Daz3D a few years back, and it's avatar clothing was jointed and applied to the avatar skeleton. It was reasonable for animations, and on scaling, but on deforming the avatar model, suffered with poke-through to a horrible extent. We've seen already that the UMA system doesn't suffer in the same way, and scales, animates, and deforms it's clothing perfectly.

 

Yep

 

Hi there!
Yes, textures were made for a different shader, and as I´ve been working on code for the last weeks, I didn´t managed to get time to adjust those to @UnLogick shader.

As @UnLogick already announced, it will be possible to have control over many adjusts, for each cloth element/overlay, this applies to specular.

Age sliders are definitely already viable It´s up to you guys to take UMA potential and mix with your creativity to reach amazing results! =D

 

That´s exactly the kind of thing that help us a LOT =D Thank you : )))

 

Yay =)
Eye adjusts are already possible. I just didn´t exposed the variables the way all other are already there.
Right not we have ~37 sliders for adjusting body/head shape.
There can be hundred of those, it´s up to your needs and creativity.

 

Hi there!
Yep, As I´ve been working on code for the last weeks, I didn´t had the chance to get involved on webplayer lighting adjusts. With some small adjusts we can reach a better perception of volume and composition.

But my focus right now is getting UMA code ready for beta, so you guys can finally have fun with it =) The same applies to texture and other content. After code is ready, and I start beta first wave, i´ll be able to get back to content and give it some deserved attention.

 

In fact, they do have the rights for UMA.
UMA wouldn´t be possible without Unity, and as this is an open project, I´m more than happy with the way this is happening. =)

 

Hey!

Even hair is integrated with UMA, so it´s possible to have a considerable amount of shape adjust for hair too.
Swords and other attachments can be handled using UMA or included following the traditional ways. It´s a matter of deciding what is better for your project. On documentation I´ll be able to compare the options and give some insights of the benefits.

Right now, as the Female cloth is not fully adjusted, I´m quite sure you can notice some poke-through in some small areas This won´t happen on final faceplates I´ll deliver for you guys.
For final version, I´ll provide standards for cloth combination. Following those standards, content providers will be able to deliver content that can be combined and work together.

 

Do you guys have any agreement or anything in place so Unity could never turn around and force us to pay for UMA? I don't think they would do that and UMA so far seems like it would be well worth a couple hundred or more dollars if you guys did decide to sell it but I was just wondering.

 

Not to distract Fernando and UnLogick who are busy doing great work, but I wonder who else has ideas for UMA/Mecanim add-ons that could be either asset store packages or community projects. I know I have a bunch of stuff I'd love to see...

Better clothing simulation. The current state of the built-in stuff is a complete mess, and Shroud is still incomplete (although they claim to have an update coming soon.)

Wrinkle synthesis for clothing and faces

Generic facial rigging and animation (I've been working on this some and might try to offer something.)

More advanced skinning techniques and dynamic animation.

 

Cant wait to play with this!!

 

Quote on youtube from MindChamber :

When someone pops their collar like that, you immediately listen...

 

I tried to like your post

 

i suggest update first post because this webplayer very easy be lost after some times (spam, lovely spam xD)

 

Great idea, thanks =)

 

Ha, are these young men with women size tits?

Impressive. Good to know this is what 4.2 is waiting on.

 

Hi there SubZeroGaming,
Sorry, didn't understood your post.

 

LOL
Great idea and concept, but the webplayer link does not work
All Browsers

 

nope. Still works for me. Still looks fantastic !

Trust me ChadH! It's awesome

 

Hi there!
I think it should work for you now.
Thanks for the reply

 

Hey!
Super happy with your feedback

 

Can the base human model be changed, and the system still work? Not that I've got anything against the model; more I'm wondering about designers for asset-store content for the UMA.

Also, are we still ok with Mixamo off-the-shelf animations with the UMA?

 

Yes you can make your own models, the requirement is mostly in how you rig the model to get the deformation benefits. As such it only work for UMA rigged models.

Yes!

 

Nice one UnLogick, two simple yeses (spell checker says that's not a real word) is brilliant. Here's another tricky question
How are we managing facial animations? I'm guessing that there are no facial bones, so animations may be tricky. Also, as a second part to the question; what about mouth shapes for lip-syncing to spoken audio?

Sorry if I'm asking all the difficult questions

 

It´s also important to keep in mind that if you conserve the volume of the base mesh, even changing the topology completely, you can keep using UMA clothes.

 

Your questions are more than welcome!

About facial bones, in fact, it´s the oposite
Face have enough bones to have very complex facial animations, we can have animation even on tongue.
Facial animations based on morph would probably require you keeping the head a separated mesh, to reduce performance cost, and won´t be available out of the box.

 

Will the facial bones be present in the beta version so we can check out the rig?

 

Sure!

I´ll also provide the original files.
Right now most of the base content has been done with Blender. As Blender is open source, it combines really well with UMA, but the same can be done on Xsi, Maya and 3dMax.

 

Worked for me, Extremely slow on my work system (not very powerful though, so it's expected) Looked good from what I could actually do. Can't wait to get it in game when it comes out.

 

Hi there!
Even this one is slow for you? http://glscene.com/unity/CharacterCustomization/UMAWebPlayer.html

Based on the data you provided, it shouldn´t be...
Dev PC:
4.2GHz AMD Quad Core
16GB DDR3 1600MHz
3 1TB 6Gb/s 7200RPM WD Black HDD
nVidia 660ti 2GB

 

Oh boy, that's pretty much everything I can think of covered, and answered with yeses XD

I'd be really interested in seeing some facial animations, and lipsyncing mouth shapes

 

Yeah I have a little under those stats and it runs fine for me. I've got a 3 GHz Quad Core with 8 gigs of Ram, a 1 gig Dedicated Graphics Card 2 TB hard drive and a very crappy internet connection.

 

It works now

BTW
I meant no disrespect by my earlier comment
I was just frustrated that when I wanted to see the demo it was offline

Sorry if this has been asked a million times, but when can we expect a release date?

Thanks for all your hard work

 

Hey

Didn´t considered disrespect at all, again thanks for pointing me out it was not working.
I´m planning on starting a first wave of closed beta this week. The closed beta was planned for 3 weeks ago, but I´ve rewritten most of the code since then, this will make any future changes much more easier.