Pc Build Question

Hey!
So I’ve found some prebuilt pcs. All are new and roughly the same price, here the specs and then I’ll explain my use of it.
1 - i9-9900k/16GB ram/RTX 2060/SSD
2 - i7-9700k/16GB ram/GTX 1080/SSD
3 - R7-2700X/16GB ram/GTX 1080TI/SSD
Obviously the 9900k is the best cpu, but it also has the worst GPU. And the AMD has the best GPU, but not sure.
I will be programming/3D modeling using Unity and Blender and tend to have about 6 applications open and a few google tabs. I will game with friends from time to time. I play games such as OW, Paladins, RCTW, and Forza(s).

Which would you recommend?

 

How willing are you to open the computer up and perform an upgrade? AMD has the advantage that the socket will be used for at least two more generations (the soon to be released 3000 series and the 4000 series) meaning you could very easily upgrade that computer down the road.

 

100% willing. Definitely not a problem.

 

The AMD system is my recommendation then. You'll be set for upgrades for at least a couple more years, and the GTX 1080 Ti recently gained raytracing support with a driver update (NVIDIA caved on it only being for RTX cards).

https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/289483-new-nvidia-drivers-unlock-ray-tracing-on-gtx-cards

 

Maybe a smart 4th option might be a R7-2700X/16GB ram/RTX 2060/SSD. Or possibly run an AMD Ryzen 5 2600 until the new AMD CPUs are available this summer.

I have an Intel i9-9900K in one of my PCs, and it is underwhelming. I have a high end custom water cooling solution for my CPU and GPU, and the i9-9900K runs warm even without any overclocking. I don't recommend the i9-9900K for most people.

 

Hmm I’d rather a 1080Ti over a 2060

 

Sure. The GTX 1080ti is a great card, but it is also more expensive. If a user is on a budget, then the RTX 2060 may be a viable solution.

 

The guy I’m buying from is giving me a break on it since it’s a gen old. Only $100 more than the 2060 build he’s selling.

 

What chipset comes with the AMD?

 

The motherboard will be the B450M from Gigabyte

 

If it were the x470 it would have been a bit more future safe. There is no telling how x370, x470 or B450 will hold out. But the X370 is 2 gens old and the B450 is a low end chipset. Best bet would probably be x470. I will replace my x370 with a x570 when Ryzen 2 comes.

 

True but motherboards aren’t terribly expensive and I probably won’t upgrade for a good 4 years so that’s not too big of an issue I would think. Next upgrade I’d need will probably be when AM4 goes out. I’m a 4/4 core 3.2GHz i5 so an 8/16 cpu will hold me out for awhile before I’d be desperate enough to upgrade.

 

Ryzen 2 with 12 / 24 is around the cornor. I would wait until reviws on the old chipsets are out

 

That supposed to be June right? I might wait. Or might just upgrade once they come out. According to what I’ve read the chipset will still work so I’d just trade up and sell my 2700x.

 

Yes it will work but probably not optimal. The x370 that I have is really dated and it was a premium chip when it came. the B450 is a generation newer but a low end chip. I would atleast get a x470 or wait for x570

edit: They have worked alot on the memory problems, not certain all of those problems are solved on old chipsets.

 

And in AMD's defense, this type of situation also exists for Intel. Any time a company releases a new CPU, there will be some compromises when supporting it on older motherboards. That is normal. For best results with the latest CPUs, you want to use the latest motherboards.

On the Intel side, the i9-9900K works best in the latest motherboards. For example, the ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero (Intel Z370) will support an Intel i9-9900K with a BIOS update. However, it will not run as well as the ASUS ROG Maximus XI Hero (Intel Z390).

 

Intel are worse. They first now start to support older generation chipsets at all with their newer CPUs. I guess because AMD has started to make a hole in Intels wallet

 

Honestly if there were one aspect of the motherboard that would worry me it wouldn't be the chipset. It would be the power delivery. That said I don't consider the B450 to be a low end chipset.

 

So looks like the 2700x build is still ahead, the chipset looks fine from what I’ve read about it.

 

Besides graphics card power you will probably not notice any differance from the cpu's in real life performance. They are all capable to game, code, develop. I personally have the that ryzen setup and it is great.

 

Not with Ryzen, The entire Zen aritechtures achilles heel is its memory mangement

 

Last I heard (I'm constantly checking /r/AMD) memory management had become a non-issue.

 

Not with my x370 / 2700 combo, can only run my 3200 memory in 3066. And at work same story with a x470 / 2700 combo .both Gskill memory, though the ones on work machine are not Ryzen rated so could be that

 

I have a 2700X 470X asus hero motherboard with 3200mhz RGB G.Skill memory and have it running at 3200mhz. That issue is only yours.

 

Rated for Ryzen? Because like I said those memories in my build at work are not rated for Ryzen. But they are B-die memories just like the rated ones. At my home computer I have a x370 mobo with rated memories that can only run at 3066

 

i don't know if it is or not, it's what was what was recommended to me. it was this https://www.amazon.com/G-Skill-Trid...120&s=gateway&sprefix=g.skill+,aps,197&sr=8-3