ORK Okashi RPG Kit for Unity released

It's in there. : ) Looking good! Looking forward to ORK2 but quite happy with ORK 1.2.3a now. Leaving you 5 stars.

 

So I was thinking about creating Might and Magic (not Heroes) RPG where turn based movement/combat/ai First Person view is the key (along with the rest of "standard" stuff of items, leveling up, magic, etc.). Here is a video example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgesUaYZvb0
Two parter question:
1) Is it possible to create something like this using ORK?
2) If it is possible, then how easy would it be to setup something like that (since it is "possible" to create something like this just by using Unity, but whole point of ORK is this process will be much easier).

 

@drewradley

In your loot generator script, what does the percent dice setting do?

@Deonisius
You wouldent be able to do the "when you take a step, the monsters take a step too" type of thing that the older might and magics did without scripting it in yourself. But other than that a MM type system should be possible.

 

That is a random number between 1 and 100 that determines the chance settings for the items/money. I made it public just to see it in the inspector and changing the value in the inspector shouldn't change anything since it is set at "start".

 

Hi! Just intrested when you plan to release ORK 2 and is there any features list fot it?

 

You would have a pretty easy time making a somewhat more modern version of M&M with things like full free 3D movement, but the core of the game would be a cinch. Customizing the battle and interface and everything to work the same way would be easy.

If you wanted to REMAKE M&M EXACTLY, you'd have to do some scripting. It wouldn't be a big project since a lot of it is already there in ORK and it's pretty easy to customize ORK, but you would have to know what you were doing.

 

Thanks for the reply's guys! So then a follow up question is: What if I went "Legend of Grimmrock" style (where interface is similar to M&M and has grid like movement but it is in real time)? How much of that would ORK be able to cover vs how much I would need to code myself from scratch in outside of it (and what would be needed to be done from my end)?

 

That would take a little bit of work. There isn't any AI or pathfinding or anything, so you'd have to build that in for the enemy mobs. You could also fake it with events and patrol routes. The puzzles and everything would be really easy to do with the event system. I haven't messed around with the point and click controls much, but you shouldn't have much trouble setting up events and things for a first person interface and pixel hunting like in Grimrock.

The battle interface would either need to be reprogrammed or you would just have to work inside of Ork's constraints. For example the Grimrock magic system wouldn't work the same way out of the box, but it wouldn't be that hard to add it in. Most of the scripts in Ork are pretty easy to call and to work with. M&M or Wizardry-style battles would work out of the box though. You could do real-time or turn-based battles without modifying any code, depending on in you wanted something more like Wizardry (turn-based) or more like Grimrock (real-time).

Finally, Ork doesn't have grid-based movement. Now, it would take five minutes to change the player controller to work that way, but you would have to add it in yourself.

So I guess the short answer is that you could make something very similar out of the box. To make exactly the same thing you'd have to invest a week or two into scripting.

 

Yeah, I'd also love to hear about what we can expect in ORK 2.

 

Got it, thanks for the information.

 

What you can expect in ORK 2:
- completely new editor (all things in one editor) with help text for every setting
- you can have multiple player groups (partys)
- you can recruit enemies
- you aren't limited to one battle system type any longer, the type can be chosen per battle - and even changed while in battle
- redone event (and battle animation) system
- you don't need to adept scripts of own player/camera controls to work with ORK, as long as you tell ORK the name of the components ORK will handle blocking them in events, etc.
- lots of other stuff (e.g. change members in battle, status/ability development menus, etc.)

Some stuff that may come:
- group status values
- factions, e.g. like in fallout, where everyone belongs to a faction and your actions can make a faction your enemy or ally

 

new editor eh i hope it could be more like the Rpg makers i used.

 

Nice!

 

This is gonna be awesome !
But when will this version be released ?

 

I'd better watch myself for feature creep since my mind's spinning to think of ways to capitalize on everything I bolded. I'd wind up taking three years to even put together a demo.

What do you mean by multiple player groups? Is it like the part early in Final Fantasy VI or at the beginning of Wild Arms where there are three separate parties and the player can switch between which story they're going through?

 

feature creep eh i better watch out too because its the reason why duke nukem forever too so many delays

 

This kit has never been that good to me...... but glad to see its still going strong...

Personally here are my complaints

• You charge for a menu shop system which should be standard in the kit
• You charge differently for "indie" and "pro"
• You want people to buy multiple licenses for more than one person.
• There is barely any docs or tutorials
• You use way too many different Editor Windows
• The camera system
• The demo being so dated

Thats just to name a few but many people seem to like this so keep at it..

 

@kingcharizard

I can only say a few things: There are actually some fine tutorials and there is a fully documented wiki. There is a lot of info on ORK's website---probably so much it would take you awhile to read but i followed the tutorials and looked at what is going on in the demo---that was enough to help me so far.

If you follow the tutorials and you take the demo apart--that is look to see what's going on---that's all you should need. I've asked some questions as a newbie user but now I know I didn't have to ask a lot of them if I'd just paid more attention to the tutorials and the demo, especially the demo.

There are no more editor windows used here than in an old editor I was using. I think the next version might simplify that if I'm not wrong.

The camera system seems fine. I don't know what you think is wrong since you don't detail it.

The demo is NOT dated. The demo has helped me get my new game up and running and I'm so far very satisfied.

All the money stuff I can't comment on. I got what I paid for and I'm happy. : ) I can just imagine the work that went into making this engine and I wonder if maybe you don't appreciate that. : )

@everyone else

I'm also excited. : )

 

Totally agree with catacomber. ORK is an amazingly designed and versatile framework and the documentation is some of the best I have ever seen, the wiki covers every feature in detail, and the demo provides a great example to see how all the scene setup works. Personally I think this kit is way underpriced, it basically eliminates any coding required to make a standard rpg. It's also easy to intergrate custom code like, camera systems etc, and serves as a great foundation to build off of. Highly recommended.


ORK 2.0 features look sweet! Good luck with rest of development.

 

i think ORK 2 is to be released by the end of this month

 

under the skill system, can you create skills like "Steal"? and have a seperate loot table for it so that if an item is successfully stolen at a % chance, you are no longer able to access that particular loot table hence blocking steal from that monster.

also, if i purchase the current version of ORK now, and ORK 2.0 releases, will i have to buy it again?

is there an ETA on ORK 2.0?

 

@kingcharizard
- Yeah, splitting ORK into a base package and a menu extension wasn't the best decision - that's why the'll be merged together in ORK 2.
- Charging differently for indie and pro - so does Unity (and many others), and as a starving developer it's nice getting a little bit more out of bigger companies. Same goes for multiple licences
- Docs and tutorials can be found in the ORK Wiki.
- All editors will merge into one in ORK 2 - the different editors kinda happened during two years of development
- I'd love to hear what's wrong with the camera system - I'm always open for critics and feature wishes!
- The demo might be graphically ugly and old, but still shows most of the features (i.e. all four demos).

@Salio
Yes, you can do that!
Skills have a steal setting (money and items) and can steal either a fixed item or an item defined by the enemy that you steal from.


ORK 2 is done when it's done ...
I hoped to have all ready at the end of October, but seems more like end of November now (or even later) - there are still a lot of new features to implement and some old ones that are redone.
I'm currently working on the new HUD system - some of the featuers:
- display player and enemy information (either as a list like in the current HUD or bound to the object in the scene) and info on your current target
- display available interactions, which now have interaction types (i.e. event, battle, item, scene change, etc. ... also custom types are possible) - which means you can create a different HUD for each type if you want
- virtual controls

Regarding the last point:
ORK 2 will have a control layer between ORK and Unity - i.e. you have to create input keys in the ORK 2 editor, which get their input from the Unity input manager, key codes or other ORK keys (and maybe other input, e.g. gyroscope, etc.).

 

Do you have anything you can show us, to whet our appetite? Screen shots of a new editor window?

 

Hi Gamingislove , i'd like to know if the player will have the ability to swim underwater , or as you said before ORK 2 will handle the different camera player controls . I say this because the character system in the asset store is able to do that but i wander if this will be compatible with ORK , if not possible , still a great tool for development , thank you yes a screen of the editor would be a nice thing , have a good day

 

@GamingIsLove

Thank you for your dedication to ORK 2! Like many of your satisfied customers, I look forward to the next version of this framework.

Will ORK 2 be handling character animation differently? I'm using a custom Animation solution and found it very difficult to isolate the animation activations in the present version of ORK. Will there be a simpler way to get notifications when an animation has been triggered (particularly for Damage and Defend, which are triggered separately from most animations)?

 

delayed eh oh well i can use this time to make working tech demo on current ORK tech before i make the actual game

 

Of all the latest features mentioned, this interests me most. There's so much flexibility in the rest of ORK that I'm really looking forward to seeing what you've come up with.

Yeah, this would be awesome. Any kind of sneak peek that hints at what we can expect would be greatly appreciated.

 

is it possible to request for the camera in ORK2 to take their input from an existing camera? What I mean is I would love to create a camera in unity, position it the way I want for the battle or cinematic then ORK2 uses that? The old way of doing requires a lot of trials and errors and guess work. Looking forward to the release!

 

Hey everyone, if I somehow ask a silly question, have mercy on me and don't bash me too hard. Well my question is this, what if I buy and download ORK on my computer but then one day I decided I want to do all of my work on another computer, do I have to download another version onto that computer and start all over again? Or can I just copy every folders and resources of unity/ork from the old computer and transfer it to the new one? Thanks!

 

I've never encountered a problem moving a project to another computer.

 

Thanks Drew, much appreciated.

 

well im making progress for my tech demo im figuring how to make a character move

 

In ORK? That's automatic when you set up a player. You actually have to go in to the ORK Project Setting menu (Game Setting sub menu) to deactivate the built-in movement system. Now if you are wanting to make your own, I suggest you google 3d Buzz Unity tutorials. They have a rather extensive set (free) that teaches you to make a really good character control rig with strafing, jumping, climbing, etc.

 

i can deactivate the built-in movement system? i didn't know that.

 

And the camera system as well. However if you use your own, you'll need to add some code to ensure that the player has no control during events. You can find that code on the wiki.

 

i dont know hoe to code but i just need to make a prototype during pre-production

 

It wouldn't hurt to do a few tutorials. Even if you never open the code, it is very helpful to know how it works, even if you can't make it work yourself. There are some really good ones out there.

 

I am using Ubrin http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/145748-Character-Costumization-RELESED. It states in the Wiki under "Characters" that the character prefab should be in the Assets/Resources/Prefabs/Characters folder. If I do that, it will break the Ubrin scripts. I am working in the "Project Editor" --> Characters screen. Ubrin is also going to set up NPCs, so I can't "break" that path either or the scripts won't work.

What other way can I set up players and NPCs so Ubrin and ORK will play nice together? Or is this not possible?

 

i just hope the next update will be more user friendly when it comes to assigning character movement

 

What seems to be the problem? Perhaps one of us can help you.

 

well how do i assign keyboard/game pad buttons to make the character move

 

Hi, I have problem, for few days I'm traying make in game menu like this: push ESC button and apear menu with Resume, Save game, Load, and quit to main menu. I'm trying do that with menu system, but I don't know exactly how do that. Maybe someone can help I appreciate that

 

Well, ORK automatically uses the Horizontal and Vertical axis so that is all set up for you. However if you are building on the ORK demo as I am, it is set up to only use the arrow keys. if you wish to add or change these keys go to File roject Settings: Input and change them there. Game pad buttons, I have no idea.

Have you read this page: http://www.rpg-kit.com/wiki/index.php/Menu_System ? If not, read that and see if that helps. Otherwise, explain what you have tried and where you are having problems. Just remember the key needs to be set up in the Input.

 

that is going to be a problem i want the player chose there control style between game pad or mouse and keyboard

 

That I don't know as I've never tried to set up a gamepad to use in a Unity project. Have you done this in a different project?

 

no this is my First Unity Project

 

Maybe this will be helpful.

Other than that, I suggest you stick to the default ORK features as modifying it right now will involve coding. You can make a good RPG using ORK without ever coding a single line.

 

im sorry i just cant do that

 

Just to add to drewradley's wonderful help:

You have to set up the menu system/menu editor and the menu screens. But before you can do that you have to set up dialogue positions. If you look in the ORK demo you can see how this works. What I did was to copy down into a notebook from the ORK demo everything I needed to set up things in the menu system: the menu editor and menu screens and the dialogue positions.

I did get it to work beautifully. The dialogue positions come into play in the Menu Screens. I just used the same Dialogue Position settings from the demo but I did that by copying down all the settings and then inputting them into my game.

You can do this. It just takes patience.



One thing I learned is to set up the Dialogue Positions before doing anything else. It makes things much easier because so many other things rely on the Dialogue Positions being set up.

This is what my side menu looks like. You can do the same thing. Just ask if you're stuck.

 

im still warping my brain around of making my game logitech dual action compatible