Official Ongoing humanoid issues in Animation Rigging

I'm having a bug where the character gets offset and starts floating as you described. I tried setting the scaling to 1 for the root but I was still getting this bug. Any ideas how to fix this?

 

I am simply using characters from https://readyplayer.me/. The root was scaled so I tried setting it to 1,1,1 but I was still getting the problem. Other bones were scaled but I tried setting almost everyone to 1,1,1 and still issues. I'll check the missing bone configuration but other than that is there any other version of animation rigging I can upgrade or downgrade to avoid this issue?

 

Hi I have a problem where intermediate bones between mapped humanoid bones have their constrained location overwritten. I have an extra Spine2 joint that isn't defined as part of the humanoid structure, but sits between Spine & Chest.
I have an example where I created a ChainIK constraint between Spine1_M(Spine) through to Chest_M(Upper Chest). There is no rotation on Spine 2 when the rig is running on transforms in the humanoid hierarchy. I created an exact replica of the spine rig outside the humanoid hierarchy and all transforms rotate as expected. My understanding is that the rigging constraints execute after all the mapped humanoid bones have been written to the their respective transforms.

 

Hi Simon, thanks for the updates.

Is there a fix for this on 2019(.4) LTS? Or maybe workarounds?
I checked all the scale on the bones and it is all (1,1,1) but the parent of the model (gameobject holder) is scaled to 13,13,13 so the offset is quite large.

Thanks

 

@simonbz The gumbone on my model is pointing up from Unity's rigging setup on an imported FBX.
I want to place a target in front to rotate, not tilt the head side to side.
I tried adjusting the bone like in first picture. When I press play the gum bone resets back to default pointing up.
It has nothing to do with the target but the gumbone then updates to point to the target rotating the whole head with it.
But when I move the target the IK then follows.
I have been making great progress with this model but every new step creates a new dilemna.
Thank you for any input.

 

The Animation is self destructive. You make a change and it is done even if you didnt save. The files are written whether you like it or not. There is no history but ctl-Z.
The Unity community in this arena is not making the correct amount of progress. Google it.
And yes my model is not simple. But I followed the tuts and I now waste time trying to adjust data items in numerous disconnected ways.
We are being used to find and report Unity's bugs during our dev workflow, if that is what you want to call this.
The animation variables are not connected correctly with the curves keyframe values.
Working on transforms in the inspector does not reflect in either the curves or dopesheet.
There are values that are set in the rig import that one has to go and readjust in the animation window.
I have been a programmer for 43 years. I know S*** when I see it. And I am not alone.
If I get exiled for this oh well.

 

Cool, thanks for the info.

 

Unit 2020.3.4f1
If there is no answer for this then it is a bug.
The Y data doesn't match the curve data.
My character rises up .35 in preview. The curve shows 10.0. I change the Y data to 10 in preview, not in preview, in the curve but the data goes back to 10.35. The animation is writable as I made a copy.

The model also has this:

I am trying to find the workflow cohesion in the FBX import/animation, Unity humanoid rigging and the Unity animation.

I can achieve IK without the animator controller in the animator component for now.

 

This is using an imported Maximo with no animation.
Select the root Gameobject in the hierarchy is all. There is no animation in the rigging inspector.
The Gameobject has no animation controller at this moment.
Do not use the animation controller option in the main menu drop down.
Then got down to the animation timeline window to expose a totally blank animation environment.
Refer to button picture.
Pressing this button creates the default position for the model from the model you see and does not put the model in the hanging crouch.
I have achieved what I wanted.
Prior to this I have been using the animation selector drop down and creating a clip from that.
So there is the disconnect. That button also creates the default animation controller.
The one off the Main drop down seems to create an uninitialized controller, from there the hanging crouch position is activated. Obviously the main menu drop down creates a blank controller with no respect as to the model gameobject selected in the hierarchy.
Another step achieved. Now the static pose from the import is sustained!
Unity: write me a check for $100k for debugging this or remit to me a free professional license.

If you do not use this button you are in for one hell of a nightmare.

Caveat: Once you start adding animation curves to the IK GO you no longer have the ability to move the IK GOs in the scene. With no animation curve properties on an IK GO you are free to move the IK GO only in the scene during game play. You can use the animation record button to snag the transform data but you get one shot as after that you can not move the IKGO unless you start another animation. Then you can copy keyframes around into other timelines.

 

So I'm getting the sinking problem, where the more layers with constraints I add to a rig builder, the more my model sinks into the ground and contorts oddly during certain animations. For me, this seems to only be the case with animations that rotate the root node in their keyframes. Updating to the 2021.2 beta completely breaks my project and I have a feeling that wouldn't help anyway. Any suggestions?

 

My answer to use Umotion. I struggled into endless array of issues every time I dabbled with Unity animation tools.
After 6 months I was in between 'a low sloping forever learning curve' and 'am I running into things that really dont work?'
The learning curve in Umotion was 2 hours then boom I was back to character posing, animating and my artwork. I will not look back except to clean out many, many garbaged attempts.
I use Blender to export meshes, Mixamo to rig that, then Umotion to position and animate.
In Unity though when I modify clips the exports dont seem to take effect right away.
I believe it has something to do with the ownership the OS has on the folders and files.
But I am back to doing real work instead of juggling mysteries that are not mine.

 

Hey there, I know I asked about this post a while ago. I ended up stepping away from my project for a few months although I've gotten back into it recently! However, still having the same issue of my character being offset when using the rig builder causing the character too float. Whenever I run my project the hips bones y and z axis go from 0 to 100. My unity project is at version 2020.3.4f1.

FIXED IT! Upgrade to 2021.2 beta

 

Hi, I just added the package, and I'm trying a really basic test, and I'm getting this error?

 

I fix it... So

thats way:



If the "Rig" is inside my Player, but here... I get the error.



But, if I move my Rig inside my GameObject "Skeleton", its fix all error.

So the Rig need to be in the same GameObject of the "skeleton".

 

I had this floating bug. I changed the armature scale from 100 to 1. And it looks like the thing was gone. But a new issue come. Basically it looks like the bones swapped x, y, z axis. So when I put the ref_right_hand_target to my gun then the player's arm just twisted and the hand is weird... If I put that ref handle to my player's feet, on the ground than the right hand is on the gun.. So something happening. Maybe a 90 degrees swap somehow.

 

Thanks

 

hey guys so, I setup all the scales to 1 in hierachy, the root bones and the scale factor to 1, I got all bones there are no missing and I still have this problem I am on 2021.1.21f1

eddit, I fixed my problems by exporting the blend file as fbx with new properties: apply scalings fbx all and only with the tick on apply unit, then I in unity I setup the scales to 1 as every one pointed above

 

I was using Unity 2021.1.19f1. Experienced an issue where my humanoid character would twist his head 90 degrees to the left while playing the walking animation if the Rig Builder component was active even if no rig was affecting the character. After googling I ended up here and tried the project in 2021.2.7f1 and I'm happy to say he's now fixed.

I do not have missing bones or a scaled root, at least afaik, so I can't immediately say that the listed issues and fixes apply to me, but clearly something is fixed that also helped me.

Great work! I think this is maybe the first time ever that upgrading my Unity version has immediately fixed a problem I was having.

 

Hey SimonBZ!

One famous issue is when you use a humanoid character with some animations and also a rigging package with some constraints and IK pivots/points. When you add an animation keyframes for those IK targets first of all those doesn't produce any effect and Unity's Animator has a message "Binding issue: some generic clips bla bla...". Though, the IK "animation" works if I change the transforms and weights in code. Why it sucks in animator?
Will we have a possibility finally to animate constraints and weights in Animator for humanoid rigs? It will give it a whole new sense. It is so easy and comfortable to animate in animator rather than try to guess the correct slerp/lerp in code. Moreover, when it is an animation clip you can make cool transitions, etc. You know what I am talking about, right?

Alternatively, I know it is against the documentation, but would it be possible to allow nested animations? It is the same as above, though a different angle. E.g. main animator is on game object and a second animator which animates weights and constraints is on RigLayers object within GameObject. This somehow already works if the Nested Animator's update is set to Physics or changed to something and back to Normal in Play mode. Any explanation?

 

Yesterday got same issue.
For me it was based on "third person template" and "UMA 2 dynamic character avatar"
"Player" object stuck in air, until "Rig Builder" component was disabled, no move on "Third person controller"
Unity version: 2021.3.2f1 LTS
Way to reproduce: Create new project with "Third person Template"
Setup Rig Builder, Add object to character root(1), setup rig(2)
After entering Play Mode - character will stuck and won't move (you could move character up a bit, to see - it will stuck in a "jump" animation)
The way to fix this for me was setting flag "Apply root motion" of "Animator" component - on that step - character will start to move, but the speed will be slow - i thought the problem in a "root transform baking", but no succes to fix it by changing those values.
Somehow, mixamo animations with rig fixed character speed.
The last way to fix, and probably most simulate-right, is to make object to be a part of Skeleton object, in that way you dont need to apply root motion, or change values of Baking root transform of animations
That works with Third Person template rig, mixamo rig and Dynamic Character Avatar rig
Hope it will be halpful for someone

 

With RigBuilder active I noticed that animator.CrossFadeInFixedTime still has the delay, but without any of the blending between the animation states. So you end up with a delay and then a snap to the next animation when the time is over.

 

1. Does anyone know why my humanoid character (blue guy) is crossing his hands in this animation? The animation and rigs are all humanoid. Even Unity's auto character exhibits the same issue.
   
2. The sample rig that came with the .fbx animation applies the animation correctly.
   
3. https://imgur.com/a/1V9Li0V
4. It's not IK because disabling IK in the avatar mask still shows the same issue
5. Using other animations show the same issue, as well as with different humanoid characters.

 

It's a great thing but there are still many problems.....
I spent five hours looking for tutorials on the web
no help
Finally solved my problem by luck
sorry for my poor english

Unity : 2022.2.018.2602
Animation Rigging : 1.2.0

Next time maybe I'll try pressing every button instead of looking for the right article

 

Why doesn't Multi Parent Constraint work when root motion is turned off? I would like to use this strategy for weapon switching, but once I set up the MPC, my character stops moving (animation works, but movement with CharacterController does not). Is it a bug, or by design?

 

I would also like some form of answer to this as I have to apply Root Motion for my rigs to work, which results in animations effecting movement, not sure if I should tweak the animation inspector settings to compensate somehow?

Also, im getting the same errors as a previous poster but no matter how I structure the hierarchy im still getting errors, my issue is posted in a forum thread here:

https://forum.unity.com/threads/animation-rigging-errors.1371846/

 

Thanks, that works

 

I'm curious as to whether you resolved your issue. I'm encountering the same problem and still don't understand why I have to apply root motion to get my CharacterController working. (And particularly given that I'm using animations that are "in place" and don't rely on root motion.)

 

Bug still remains
unity v2022.2.14 / animation rigging v1.2.1

I was working with test draft project and was using humanoid model from this asset. The issue was indeed character has offset after enter play mode. Assigning missing avatar's parts fixes the problem.

 

did you manage to solve the problem?
i am following the tutorials and in the preview of the animations it works but when I am in the game play it does not.