Oct 2019 Update on Project Tiny & roadmap

Amazing job guys! Really appreciate the update! But why not first fully support 2D? Before moving on to 3D support and IOS/Android?

 

Yeah I highly await the next release

 

Will it not be the focus for all future webgl/html content authored with Unity too?
Because unless browser supporters (particularly apple/safari) change then memory and energy (cpu/gpu) costs are a bit high with normal Unity right now and a framework focused on optimising these things might provide solutions

 

While 2D support being removed and pushed back until a future update isn't exactly awesome... 3D support is going to be a literal game changer for Project Tiny! Sure, I don't have any 3D games on my list that I want to make as of now, but I fully support the decisions Unity is making and the direction they are deciding to go (they are a lot smarter than me after all). Thank you Project Tiny Team for working so hard, and thank you JC-Cimetiere for keeping us updated on the forums while we wait! Your effort is much appreciated! <3

 

Thank you for the summary. While I was a bit sceptical about "GO to entities" approach, I have now full confidence that it is the right thing to do.

How much effort will be put into web targets? I think Unity Tiny would be great in pushing the boundaries of HTML5 games forward. Right now most of the games are super simple. Mainly because the performance plummets with more complex games when on the web on a low-end device.

 

I have been using Tiny preview-0.16.1 (C#) for some weeks and it already has good support for super casual games except for:

• fbinstant sdk, facebook IAP and monetization
• Networking

Any plan to integrate fbinstant sdk, facebook IAP and monetization?
Any plan for networking?

I think that by giving support for these could let many people to publish games made with Tiny asap. Indeed I have finished a casual game, but I'm missing fb integration and monetization.

PD: Also I can't compile to AsmJS with jobs in my project, although I could for dotnet.

 

Great to see progress moving along but also quite sad to see 2D being put on hold. It was what I was personally most interested in.
But I also wonder, will standalones be supported? Seeing as you can apparently debug on Windows in a standalone build, it would seem very odd not to support it. I can't see it mentioned anywhere either, hence why I need to ask.
I would love to make 2D games, both for web and desktop with Tiny. To me the entirety of Unity feels overkill for the kind of games I want to create.

 

Great work Unity team! Can't wait to use the next package. Q4 seems sooooo long to me

 

We are planning to deliver the next preview with 3D and support for iOS/Android/HTML5 in Q4 2019. It’s very likely that the next preview is 3D only, while full 2D support will be coming back later.!!!!!!!!!!!!

so long to me...

 

Project Tiny 1.0!! please!!!!!!!! thank you!!

 

Thanks for the very valuable warning and suggestions. This is what we really needed. We want to know the correct roadmap to decide should we wait and what we should do while waiting

This is crucial that we should not play with the preview for now and should just start with DOTS instead

 

Why will you guys not support Canvas anymore?

 

Don't know what that is - no canvas, mobile web.
For ads/insta-play?
Not sure how big a deal that is compared to working webgl for desktop and mobile if browser support

 

Great news! Just been capable of easily integrate FB SDK to produce commercial casual games will be awesome. I think this will bust DOTS embracement.

 

Webgl is a better long term future proof path. The HTML5 canvas has two render context 2d which was the original version and then webgl.

the webgl context is a close representation of OpenGL ES 2.0, which includes shaders, 2d shapes and other core 3D features. Webgl’s 2d render is faster then the 2d context so using the canvas context is a waste and not possible without extra plugins.

And as a bonus, webgl 2 is on its way and is backwards compatible with webgl 1.

 

Hasn't WebGL2 been out for a while now?

 

The tech has been ready but only Firefox and Chrome fully support webgl 2 and Open GL 3.0. Edge and Safari don't support it and require enabling experimental features. Take a look at these examples of webgl 2 features. I hope this helps.

http://webglsamples.org/WebGL2Samples/#glsl_flat_smooth_interpolators

 

For the record, I believe webgl 2 is not "on it's way". It's been here for a while and Apple has made a point of ignoring it in their anti-web policy. The next supported api will likely be webGPU. Till then it's webgl and canvas2d, of the two, canvas is lighter and built into browsers. But WebGl makes sense for a cross-platform solution, from a product stand-point.

 

Great to see all the progress being made with Tiny!

Any ideas on when you might be offering integration with Timeline? I'm really excited about the possibility of making interactive, lightweight 2d films for web.

Did some experiments earlier in the year and I think Timeline for Tiny could be really powerful!

 

It's now the time to ignore apple and just build for android. If no game build to apple their system will just collapsed. It should be times for destroy this company that hindering everyone's future

 

I'm looking forward to the access of the 3D module, which has been waiting for a long time.

 

Are there any long-term plans for Project Tiny to be more accessible for non-game projects? It looks like a great use case for using Unity as a very lightweight renderer to visualise assets but the fact the majority of the typical .NET library is unavailable makes it nigh-impossible to use existing third party libraries for supporting various data formats. Currently I'm using Unity's regular WebGL build target but it's quite heavy.

Nevertheless I'll probably play around with it for a few game projects as well as it looks quite promising.

 

Exactly, if you like to build web games for iPhones, Canvas2D it the only nice way. WebGL is not supported ;(

 

Not going to happen. Apple's market share is too large to be ignored. If not releasing on IOS means you could be losing millions of dollars then people will not comply to this boycott because it's a bad financial move.
This is especially true since Apple not supporting WebGL2 isn't immoral enough for companies to justify boycotting Apple.

 

WebGL 1 definitely works on iOS Safari.

 

Unfortunately, I believe that the availability of the typical .NET library is one of the main things that MAKES the regular WebGL build target so heavy. I think it might be quite literally impossible for Unity to deliver what you're asking for, even though they no doubt would very much want to.

 

@JC-Cimetiere
Is project Tiny going to use UI Elements for UI?
Thanks

 

Is there any way to access the previous package with an older version of Unity? and the next preview would not have 2D support? Why to do this? Not really sure about the move because most of the simple content is going to be 2D anyways. Very disappointed about this.

 

we want webGPU, or move toward to babylon

 

FACEBOOK INSTANTS GAMES:
I to would like more on how to make games that will be released on Facebook Instant. There seems to be very little about it if you google around and even less when googling tiny unity / facebook instant. I know how to use Unity so would be cool if we could have some type of sticky tutorial on a basic game setup and publish.

 

Hi! I can't find Tiny Project in Package Manager! Tryed different Unity versions, different platforms, preview packages but no result!

http://prntscr.com/ptavw1

 

Thanks. But why you fully removed Tiny? Why didn't return previous release?
Is it possible to get previous versions?

 

Thank you. How's that preview going? When does it come out?

 

@JC-Cimetiere The build has "The Turkish I Problem". It can't find some files because it changes "i" in the file path to "ı". It worked when I switched the language to english.

 

@JC-Cimetiere any updates on the release date of the new Tiny Beta?
a month has passed since Unite Copenhagen, is it coming soon? can we expect on Q4?

 

I am also curious to test the Tiny 3D. Hopefully it can make my test puzzler a lot better for the webbernettes.

 

Can't say I'm exactly happy with the roadmap…Simple 2D HTML5 games is "the" reason I became interested in Project Tiny. However, with the clarification above, I understand the reasons.

 

Cannot find Project Tiny package in Unity 2019.12.f1

 

Project Tiny have been removed from the Preview Packages, full story here: https://forum.unity.com/threads/whe...ckage-cant-find-it-in-package-manager.761381/

 

Can we use Unity's new Input System in Unity Tiny? And is there any other way to access the D-Pad in the Unity Tiny projects?

 

Hello @JC-Cimetiere,
Is there any new roadmap, KaiOS need new games I want to use Unity but time is running.

 

Hi, at Unite Copenhagen (Oct 7, 2019) was announced approximate release date of new preview package (in 2-3 months). Are there any new updates on new preview release (3d support)? Or maybe there is a close beta by invite?

Second question is related to unity license. In free version, in "traditional" project, there was force to use splash screen ("Made with unity"). In DOTS/Tiny project (preview-0.16.1) there wasn't any splash screen. Do you consider to add splash screen for DOTS/Tiny project?

Third question is related about Unity services, does Unity services still relevant for DOTS/Tiny project? For example crash reports or Analytics?

I would like to help testing or provide feedback for new preview. If you are interested in my "QA Testing" please contact me.

Thanks

 

Will Tiny be available the day 2019.3 comes out? I am planning on spending the holidays building tiny projects.

 

i suppor that idea