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Discussion in 'Windows' started by MrMetwurst2, Jul 25, 2013.

  1. MrMetwurst2

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    Hey guys,

    I have a Nokia Lumia 820 Windows 8 Phone for testing but I can't get shadows working on it.
    They are working fine on the windows and android builds.

    Have I missed something?

    Cheers.
     
  2. Tomas1856

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    Hey,

    have you checked the quality settings, maybe the shadows are turned off there.

    Cheers
     
  3. MrMetwurst2

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    I woke up this morning and checked that, you know how when you sleep on something it usually comes to you in the morning.
    I had Android set to Fantastic, but WP was on Simple.
    I thought that must be it, so I changed it, but still no go :/
     
  4. Tomas1856

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    Are those hard shadows?
     
  5. MrMetwurst2

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    Yes. All Hard Shadow in the settings.

    I'll try a new project and see what happens.
     
  6. MrMetwurst2

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    Hmmm, brand new project.
    Just a plane and a cube.
    Hard shadows in Quality and on the Light settings.
    No cascades and Close Fit in Quality.

    No shadow :(
     
  7. Tomas1856

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    It should have worked, I swear I saw shadows on Windows Phone 8 :) Create a bug, maybe you hit a corner case
     
  8. MrMetwurst2

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    In the About box in Unity it's got WinStore Pro but no WinPhone Pro license is showing.

    Could that be the problem?

    [Edit] Even the free version supports 1 directional shadow now though doesn't it? [/Edit]
     
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  9. Tomas1856

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    It should be enough that have Unity Pro license. So what about Windows Store App, do you see shadows there?
     
  10. MrMetwurst2

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    Yeah, I just installed VS 2012 for Windows 8 and ran the project in both Debug and Release.

    Shadows show up no problem in a Windows 8 App.
     
  11. MrMetwurst2

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    I've submitted a bug report. We'll see what happens hey :)

    I wonder if it's the Lumia 820 limitation. I was under the impression though that all Win 8 Phones must have the same capabilities.
    I know it has the Snapdragon S4 Plus MSM8960 (Adreno 225 GPU) which seems to be in a huge range of phones according to this wiki.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)#Snapdragon_S4
     
  12. MrMetwurst2

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    I've tried a couple of other shadow options now (Shadow Volume Toolkit V2.2 from Asset Store, which I bought a while back, and the package from this thread.).

    Neither solution works on the Nokia.

    Is there anybody out there using a Nokia Lumia that can confirm whether Unity's Mobile Shadows are working on these devices.

    I keep going over the settings thinking I must be missing something, but I've tried everything now.
    Any help or confirmation please.

    Thanks.
     
  13. Tautvydas-Zilys

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    Hello. There is a known shadows issue with Adreno 225 GPU and since so many Windows Phones use that GPU, shadows are disabled for the whole platform until fixed.
     
  14. coolpowers

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    What exactly is the problem? Driver issues on WP8? Shadows seem to work fine on my Android device with an Adreno 225.
     
  15. MrMetwurst2

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    Thanks for the confirmation Tautvydas. So I'm not going crazy :)
    I look forward to shadows working.
    Unfortunately I need them for my game to give the correct depth perception.

    Would appreciate any updates on this down the track if possible.

    Thanks, Phil.
     
  16. Tautvydas-Zilys

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    Yes, it is a driver issue. We're waiting for a fix from Qualcomm.
     
  17. whereismyblaster

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    same problem for Lumia 720
    but I have shadows in Drift Mania Championship, which is created with unity too.
    So I'm not sure that it is a problem with WP8 or qualcomm... it's something in unity. Or not?
     
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  18. Lupin500

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    Any news on this problem? I am also without shadows on a Lumia 820. Is there an ETA for those Qualcomm drivers?
     
  19. Tautvydas-Zilys

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    Those drivers will come with Windows Updates and as soon as they do, we'll enable them in Unity. Unfortunately, Qualcomm didn't inform us of fix timeframe.
     
  20. Darjamfar

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    Same problem with my Lumia 520.
     
  21. SniperED007

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    Any news on this?
     
  22. Tautvydas-Zilys

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    Unfortunately, this issue wasn't fixed in Windows Phone GDR3 developer preview (apparently).
     
  23. appliquette

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    any other updates/news?
     
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    It has been already almost 9 months and no fix?! Come on Qualcomm and especially Microsoft. If you want this platform to exist, fix this fast.
     
  26. JorgeLuis

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    I have a Lumia 920 and there arent any shadows. :/ I need them for a project.
     
  27. zuzzu

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    Some fresh info from Unity would be very appreciated.

    Are shadows enabled in the Unity update for WP 8.1?
     
  28. Tautvydas-Zilys

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    Shadows for devices that support it (that is, non Adreno 225 devices) will be enabled in Unity 4.5.
     
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    That's good news. Thanks!

    Is there some timeframe for Unity 4.5 publication?
     
  30. n8

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    I think the official time frame is "soon". As with all previous versions of Unity, it comes out when they are done. ;)
     
  31. IPnose

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    V4.5 was released, and yet no shadow (or fog) are available on Lumia. This is very unfortunate :(

    Almost a year of waiting.
     
  32. Tautvydas-Zilys

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    Shadows should work. What device are you testing on? Keep in mind, drivers are still not working on Adreno 225, so it will only work on devices which have Adreno 305 or Adreno 330 GPU.
     
  33. IPnose

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    Thank you for your quick response.

    I tested with a Lumia 925 and Lumia 820 a (which obviously embeds the famous Adreno 225). So there was no chance of seeing shadows appear on these devices?
     
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  35. IPnose

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    Too bad.
    Yes, I've seen this blog in the past and used this technique.
     
  36. zugsoft

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    Hello Unity team.
    Microsoft will solve the driver issue or not?
    Do you have a ticket number for this issue?
     
  37. Claytonious

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    Is there any news on this issue yet? Even new Lumia 930 *still* has no shadows. Is there anyplace that we in this community could voice our concerns with Qualcomm or Microsoft to help move this issue forward?
     
  38. IPnose

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    I go back up this because the problem still exists. Tested with a 820, 925, 930, and none displays shadows.
    I reiterate the question above, is there a way (uservoice) to put pressure on Qualcomm?
     
  39. MaxProude

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    Same problem on Lumia 1520!
     
  40. Joe-the-programmer

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    This issue also seems to exist on the 305. Saw this in the logs:
    Warning: There are known driver bugs related to shadowmaps on 'Qualcomm Adreno 305', shadows will be disabled.
     
  41. Claytonious

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    Bueller? Bueller?
     
  42. tswalk

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    yep, still broken... I don't think MS has the leverage to force Qualcomm to fix their stuff.. and well, Microsoft has kinda abandoned the platform anyways (8.1, Lumia 50x) :(