no more ambient light. only skylight for baking.

i just realised this while working on an interior scene of mine.
in unity5 you dont have ambient light anymore! WTF

dont be confused by "ambient source" from the lighting tab. when in realtime you can call it a simple ambient light, but when you bake lightmaps it actually becomes a skylight.

SO

if you have a closed interior space, it will not receive any "ambient light".

attached a simple demo scene.

 

nonono. i'll just wait for unity to give us the ambient light option again.
not having it hurts the light baking workflow sooooo much.

it amazes me how something as simple as this went off the radar.

 

You can put the emission up on a couple of objects, that'd suffice easily enough I'd imagine?

 

baking lightmaps is already a slow pain in unity 5. and the workaround you suggest is making more stuff emisive so it takes even more time to bake and gives room for more GI artifacts!?! and how about visually? ambient light and emissive materials give totally different results.

unity 4 beast used to have it. i wont expect anything different from unity 5.

 

You can get ambient light by adjust light probes. Ambient light is merely a hack because we didn't have gi back then. If you're regressing for artistic purposes, it should be done correctly, ie in the shader.

 

ambient source already works like a true ambient light (in realtime). whats up with just giving this control in baked lightmaps also?

controlling on a material basis is absurd. the number of materials on my project would exponentially grow based on the different ambient light on different scenes.

 

This is really nothing that should be argued about. There should be a working oldschool ambient setting.

@fredericomachuc: This is a poor workaround as well, but you could edit your lightmaps.

 

Take a look at light probes again if you havent already. Without them you get the sky light. With them you get 'real ambient' light from every object within the volume of the probe. On the mesh renderer you have the option to turn probes off, blend them (default), probes and skybox (probably not what you want) or turn them off. In 4x i turned ambient light to black anyway because I couldn't get a true darkness/shadows.

 

so there is no ambient baking right now ? No more news about it ? Now i will have to place additional lights in every corner to imitate ambient ? Damn. Where else to whine about that ?

 

Exactly same problem here for an interior lighting.... In realtime GI every thing is perfect. In baked GI the ambient intensity is not enough even at a value of 1....

 

I would like to see fake ambient light added to the standard shader as well.

Don't games still use this? Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't games like Fallout 4, the Far Cry series, etc., use fake ambient light? In enclosed areas in Fallout 4 for example, with no noticable light source, you still have even light (no pitch black areas).

I don't see how to light interiors without using lots of point lights, and that doesn't look good

If this isn't going to be added to the Standard shader, could we see a tutorial on how to do that with Shader Graph?