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  1. moonjump

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    Sorry to keep banging on about how different licences work together, but please don't take it as moaning. It is unknown information that I would like to find out. Unity have come up with something really good in Plus, I just hope they are as positive with the EULA.

    I seem to remember somewhere in the recent kerfuffle a Unity staff member saying this was a positive move for freelancers (but I cannot find the source now), and it potentially is, but also potentially not.

    If a freelancer is offered work with the team using the Plus licence, that person will also need Plus under the existing terms. If they then move onto another project using the Pro licence, they will now need a Pro licence. The freelancer could need to maintain one of each licence to work with various teams over a year.

    It has been an issue for me in the past where I have had to turn down Unity contract work because of the need for Pro. In that case I would have had to spend over $5000 on Unity Pro ($1500 Pro + $1500 iOS + $1500 Android, all plus VAT because my income is small and have therefore not registered for VAT), but my income would have been lower than that. It gets better at $1500 + VAT for a subscription (or $1500 + $420, all + VAT if needing both), but it does mean there will be circumstances where income is relatively low, certainly far below $200K pa, but Pro is required.

    My hope (and therefore a suggestion by putting it here) is that the same licence level must be used within a company, but the limit within a project is not mixing free and paid licences.
     
  2. Gord10

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    I am definitely unhappy with something:

    "As an existing Unity 5.x perpetual license customer, you will no longer get new updates after March 2017."
    When I upgraded from 4 Pro to 5 Pro, I thought the word "perpetual" meant "perpetual", which means I didn't have to pay again to be able to use Unity 5 Pro in the future. Now I feel like I am scammed.
     
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  3. Ostwind

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    You own it just like you owned Unity 4 which stopped receiving new features ages ago (maybe over a year ago). There has only been important fixes for it and similar important fixes will come for Unity 5 too in some form.
     
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  4. DED-Games

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    The thing is that it is just a matter of naming, at the end it's mostly the same deal as with the previous versions. They can just rename it to Unity 10 on March and be done with it, which I'd say may be the best for them to avoid problems with the licenses.
     
  5. Gord10

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    You are right, I knew someday Unity 6 would be released and I would need to upgrade/buy once again. But isn't March 2017 too soon? I had given $750 thinking it would last 2-3 years, not one.
     
  6. Teila

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    Typically two years. Unity 5 was delayed so everyone had an extra year.
     
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  7. Ostwind

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    Not sure how are you calculating the one year but march 2017 makes it exactly 2 years it's been out and even more if all the betas and release candidates are counted in.
     
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  8. hakankaraduman

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    Does anybody know if there will be any more discount on top of 35$ for student? Because I remember there was discounted prices for students for perpetual license before.
     
  9. Devil_Inside

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    Why do you need pro as a student?
     
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  10. orb

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    If I remember the old Studica prices correctly, Plus is cheaper relative to Pro in the new plan than the old student licensing compared to old Pro.

    Can't compare anymore though. All they have is a "Quote" button that fails me on my phone.

    There will most likely be new Studica offers once UT have implemented the new plans. I don't think they've finished planning out the different "hidden" prices for students, casinos and other niche groups.
     
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  11. tyoc213

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    I think, there is still some... to "buy right now" option (which should be less than the "pay to own") but if you can do it today and get the updates of the version... (for the people that can buy it right now... which Im not but guess this in the options would be attractive to people that can).
     
  12. hakankaraduman

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    It is not for education purposes, it's for students who use it commercially.
     
  13. Devil_Inside

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    Unless they're making more than $100K, can't they use the free version?
    And I don't know about Unity, but I thought a student license wasn't supposed to be used for commercial projects.
     
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  14. orb

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    The student licence was a scaled down version of Pro. It had a lower price, but only one seat. So you paid half (or whatever), but you could only use it on half as many computers.

    Plus really takes its place now though. It's priced at under a third the price of Pro and has a generous revenue limit. You have to be one really lucky student to pass $200k, at which point…WHY THE HELL ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A DISCOUNT, YOU RICH GIT? :p
     
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  15. Teila

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    Like the perpetual Pro license, the student Unity 5 license is good for two years, which means it will also expire in March 2017 with only critical updates. My guess is since Unity is doing away with perpetual licenses that expire when the new Unity version is released, that they will do the same with the student license. Since there will not technically be a Unity 6, there is no reason to create new perpetual Student license. The old Student license was $750 for two years and the new Plus subscription is $840 for two years. The difference is much less than the difference between the Perpetual Pro and the subscription Pro.

    And with the Plus, you get to install on two computers, your laptop and your desktop, for example.

    Seems to me that Plus is a better deal overall.

    Unity's reasons for doing away with perpetual will probably extend also to the student license.

    And you don't need a student/educator email address. :)

    If that is too much for you, use the PE edition. Same engine features, and free! Perfect for the student.
     
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  16. moonjump

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    As can anyone else, but many companies offer special prices to students to take into account that they have low income and high fees, but may be lucrative future customers. This is also why almost every software company offers free versions to educational establishments, even if their software is normally very expensive.

    Unity are the exception here. They have a free version, but educational establishments pay a lot of money. This worked when there was no alternative. Widescale switches to UE4 looks almost inevitable.

    Stufica do offer special deals for students, but not special enough for the students I work with.

    Unity Plus is a good deal, but is still a lot of money for a student. It will need to be even better for that market, especially as fewer and fewer will be using that as part of their course.
     
  17. arkon

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    I don't get this whole student pricing thing. There is a fully featured FREE version, no need for a student version.
     
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  18. hakankaraduman

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    Not every plus or pro license owner needs to be earning more than 100K$, I'm aware of the free presonal edition and I just want the pro because of the removal of splash screen. Because I do use unity as commercially.

    Plus is very good price, yes. I'll take it the moment it ships, just wanted to ask Unity if there will be more discount for students. It's good to have plus for 35$ but it's even better if it's lower than 35$ :)
     
  19. the_motionblur

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    Short answer: We don't know for sure but 90% certain: No!
     
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  20. Teahousemoon

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    The new features and subscription model are really exciting for me. I'll be looking to get involved on a new project using Unity sometime over the next year and the plus subscription looks really awesome :D. This is a much better payment model in my opinion, and the updated plus subscription (200k cap, splash screen option) is great! Thanks Unity :D
     
  21. catacomber

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    I really have to read through this because I'm not caught up. My feeling is that if you have a game that you're proud of---it's a good thing all around to show the Unity splash screen. I try to give credit to any asset I've used that has helped me make a good game. I don't think it cheapens a game. I've got a lot of apps on my ipad that show the Unity splash screen.

    They are very successful. : )
     
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  22. JelmerV

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    My question is simple: WHEN?
    I am NOT a Unity user yet and want to buy the new Unity Pro, with iOS and Android. I don't want the old because it would cost me more (afaik). So I want to buy the new license asap. When will that be possible?
     
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  23. Teila

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    Why don't you mess with the free version first? It has mobile too. Once you are locked into a 12 month subscription, you can't get out until the year is up. So learn with free. It is the exact same engine, same features, etc.
     
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  24. Teila

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    But..but..how is that possible? According to so many, even a good game is thwarted by that splashscreen.

    Congrats, btw. :) Very happy to see a successful developer and one that doesn't blame a splash screen for failures.
     
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  26. SaraCecilia

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    Hey everyone! We have the new web store up now, so please continue the discussion here.
     
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