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Creative Motion Matching (MxM) Animation System for Unity (Released-beta)

Discussion in 'Tools In Progress' started by CptKen, Jan 29, 2019.

  1. Ravery

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    Not gonna lie, it's rather disappointing and fills me with buyer's remorse seeing even the demo scene fail in such way.
    Here is an example of the flying character bug:
    https://imgur.com/a/RwzkUY2

    As of now I'm really disappointed by this asset and would love to get a refund, if there is not a good solution to avoid these kind of bugs.
    It's not just "looks kinda weird". These are major bugs and might be gamebreaking, because they will allow players more freedom than level designers intend them to have.
    I'd feel bad and ashamed shipping a product with such a broken movement system.

    Edit:
    This bug is not consistent. Here is an example how it is supposed to look:
    https://imgur.com/a/xkdiSRP
    The animations are still jagged and don't feel smooth, but at least the character does not fly this time.
     
  2. Archit3ct

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    You know this is just an example right? Also, you should see this as a code lib, where it's up to you to get most out of it :) You have the power to create the most awesome character controller ever seen with this tech.
     
  3. ehillrti

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    @Gabriel_SG as soon as you have a chance to evaluate the feasibility of using MxM with uMMORPG and Mirror, please let us know what you think. My group is just starting a project where MxM could offer an order of magnitude improvement in realism given our small team and limited timeframe but it ABSOLUTELY has to work in a networked environment (albeit a small CCU on a closed LAN).
     
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  4. blackbrosg

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    hello people I'm going crazy to give a smooth animation to the xp bar slider from ummorpg, any ideas?, thanks x/
     
  5. Gabriel_SG

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    haven't started looking into it yet... maybe in 2020, still waiting on ummorpg v2.
     
  6. holyfot

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    This asset could really use a character controller on top of it. It would be way too hard to integrate with other character controllers.

    [Edit] So far making a controller wasn't as hard as I had previously thought. It will take some work thought!
     
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  7. CptKen

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    I don't know why Unity forums did not notify me of all of these messages. I've only been receiving the ones from the other forum post. I apologise for the late responses and I will respond now. Also please note there is a Discord channel for direct support which is the fastest way to get help, report bugs etc.

    I'm sorry that you experienced this and apologies for the very late response. The asset has improved a lot since then and I hope that it can be of better use to you now especially with the newly added animations and many bug fixes / improvements.

    The character controller flying up into the air is an issue with Unity's character controller unfortunately which is not very tolerant to clipping. I have made improvements to avoid this bug a lot in later versions.

    However, as mentioned by others, the demo is not supposed to be a production ready game template. It is only intended to showcase some of MxM's features. Additionally, the asset is not intended to be plug and play and the store page does mention animation requirements as well as coding ability requirements to get the best out of the asset.

    I'm sorry I couldn't help you sooner. Not sure if it is related more to MxM or ummorpg. If you are still around and needing help be sure to jump onto the Discord channel.
     
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  8. CptKen

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    The asset is not intended to do anything more than synthesise animation with the motion matching technique. While it does have other features which can be built upon, this is the core of the asset. It is not intended to be plug and play or be a fully encompassing, independent character system.

    It has been purposefully designed this way with flexibility in mind so that advanced users can make whatever character controller / system they desire with it. Every game is different and with very different character controller requirements so making one system to go along with it will only serve a small few while building in limitations and taking away development time from the core purpose of the asset which is motion matching itself.
     
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  9. SpookyCat

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  11. papathor

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    Does Motion Matching for Unity not work on OSX? I set everything up and there are no errors, but the movement in the demo is insanely jittery and basically doesn't work. Here's a screencap showing what it looks like:



    Is there anything I can do to fix this and get it working?

    Edit: btw I'm running Unity 2020.1 on OSX Catalina.
     
  12. transat

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    It's been working great for me in 2020.1 with Catalina.
     
  13. papathor

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    Ok I feel like an idiot, I should have tried this first. If anyone else has this problem, quitting Unity and relaunching the project fixed this issue for me.



    Does anyone know where you can buy Mocap takes for motion matching (ideally a dance card for movement/locomotion)?
    I have some high quality cut takes, but as the MxM docs stress, MoCap expressly for motion matching is how to get the best quality.
     
  14. CptKen

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    Hi, good to hear that your problem is solved and apologies for the late response I've been away on holidays.

    I have had this reported by Mac users before. While everything should work on OSX, I'm unable to officially support it at this point in time as I currently have no way of testing it.

    Regarding motion capture dance cards. I do stress that the best possible motion matching is achieved with mocap in the documentation. However, I don't expect everyone to be able to source that. It is definitely something for medium -> large studios and those that have high animation capacity.

    My hope is that with motion matching becoming more popular (e.g. Kinematica), this kind of animation will be provided more often. I myself do have a mocap suit and have plans to make / distribute / sell a lot more animations but that is in the long term pipeline as it is a big undertaking.

    It is possible to get good quality with cut clips, it just won't be 'as good' as mocap takes. There are ways to make cut clips function better by extending them a little (particularly starts and plant transitions) so they do not end so abruptly.
     
  15. NothingMeans

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    How to use MxM with new input system???
     
  16. CptKen

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    On the TrajectoryGenerator component, check the box that says 'Manual Input'. Then at runtime, you will need to manually set the 'InputVector' property on the TrajectoryGenerator based on the movement values from the new input system.
     
  17. pixel_maniacs

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    Has anybody encouter this problem?
    Once I load a scene at runtime with an mxm animator in it we do get this error

    Code (CSharp):
    1. NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
    2. MotionCurveData.InitializeCurvesRuntime () (at Assets/Plugins/MotionMatching/Code/MxM/Data/Animation/MotionCurveData.cs:27)
    3. MxM.MxMAnimData.InitializeNativeData () (at Assets/Plugins/MotionMatching/Code/MxM/Data/Core/MxMAnimData.cs:135)
    4. MxM.MxMAnimator.Initialize () (at Assets/Plugins/MotionMatching/Code/MxM/Runtime/MxMAnimator/MxMAnimator.cs:733)
    5. MxM.MxMAnimator.Start () (at Assets/Plugins/MotionMatching/Code/MxM/Runtime/MxMAnimator/MxMAnimator.cs:322)
    Has anybody seen this before?
     
  18. pixel_maniacs

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    OK Reprocessing the animation data fixed it. Strange behaviour cause it seems to work when entering play mode in the scene directly
     
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