Resolved Keyboard shortcuts are an essential and missing feature.

lol..

 

One day, I hope to be able to lie peacefully in my bed, surrounded by my grandchildren and great grandchildren.

One of them speaks up "Hey papa, did you spend you life well?"

"No, my child. I spent my life waiting for the 'Create Node' popup to open, because Unity don't care at all about their users".

Then I conk out.

A Unity Developer visits my funeral and gives a short speech.

"We've decided to begin the process of considering the possibility of asking users if they'd like basic features in our Engine"

 

That awkward moment when you're scrolling through an old thread and notice you've already liked comments along the way. I appear to have been here before...

Is Unity's goal to create a shader editor that's comparable with those which existed when Shader Graph was first created, or to create an editor that meets the standards of today? Is it a product that's intended to shine as an example of doing better than the competition, or is Unity content to settle on 'good enough'?

 

Respectfully, it's taken 3 years to go from "didn't bother" to "planned".

Unity has a keyboard shortcut editor. Start by matching the shortcuts every major shader editor use (Tools I'm sure the Shadergraph "team" are using regularly), then leave users to remap if they prefer.

But let's not bike shed. Just pick something and do it. Personally, I just want my art team to stop hating using this engine because Unreal is doing such a better job at giving it's users quality of life.

And apologies for the continued argumentative tone, but we're really not in the same boat. It's plain to see that if anyone at Unity actually used these tools, alongside other available ones, user experience in ShaderGraph wouldn't be so shameful.

I really appreciate you taking the time to reply, and I'm sure you'll be a force for positivity. There is little value in continued negativity so I'll consider my piece said and leave it there.

Unless in a few months we still don't have shortcuts, in which case I'll be back to tell you about how my ghost comes back from the dead due to unfinished business involving Shadergraphs missing keyboard shortcuts.

 

This post should have been "it's in, and the update will be live today"

 

Along with an apology, and a genuine attempt to make sure other user focused performance and usability features are understood and implemented for all systems, as a matter of urgency, for the users.

~ Tron cares.

 

Have you guys ever tried ASE? ASE is one of the awesome visual scripting I've ever used, not just because you can use hotkeys, but because you can multiply more than two components at one node. Unity knows that, but look at what they've done. Sometimes I wonder if they just need to copy it exactly or buy ASE, then they could save our devs a thousand years.
My rank list for the Visual Scripting UX: Houdini > ASE > ME > SG

 

Blender is so far ahead here, especially with node wrangler.

I see people asking for shortcuts, things like "M" for multiply.

How about M for "math", like Blender has.. a node where you choose the math function.

This way, you dont have to rewire everything every time you want to change an add to a multiply.

Oh, and unplugging leading to a create node prompt is...what? Why? Who actually works that way?

Oh, and ctrl-z... Wow. Punishment.

But I am glad for shadergraph. It just seems like it is stuck in its initial usability state, which was not so good. I thought improvement s would come over the years, and technical ones have, but usability has not really improved at all.

Also, way to shrink nodes very small, but still leave open ports exposed, please.. ..the nodes are huge, even when shrunk.

Well, i could go on for days, since I still use Blenders shader editor as well. So smooth, clean, and fast.

 

I've been working with Unreal for years. Now, for some strange reason, the company management (Appel fans) decided that we should switch to Unity. At first I thought it doesn't matter. But after a few months, I'm thinking about resigning.

 

Material Editor UE

Can you provide more specific examples? I've also used UE before, and my friend is using it for his company's project. Each engine has its own strengths and weaknesses. I prefer Unity, even though I sometimes hate it. But UE seems to be more popular with artists. In the end, it's just a tool.

 

Stay on target squadron. We're here for one thing and one thing only. Basic quality of life features any other credible software would have had from day one.

 

rejoice guys, it's only one year away, possibly, maybe...
or couple of years if you want it in "stable" LTS version

https://blog.unity.com/engine-platf...ph receives keyboard shortcuts functionality,

 

For posterity.

It's been implemented the same garbage way I shared 3 and a half years ago.

Bored of being disappointed.

 

And we will implement it... never...