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Keep Unity 5 available for OS 10.75!

Discussion in 'Unity 5 Pre-order Beta' started by Garrett-Brown, Jan 30, 2015.

  1. Garrett-Brown

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    Some of us still use a Mac Pro from 2008. This particular Mac can NOT run OS 10.8! If you move to this system generation you will lose customers who can not run Unity5 when it is released.
     
  2. Ostwind

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    If Apple has themselves dropped support for such old system (and future you can't even publish to iOS or Mac with them) why should Unity keep em as dead weight. Also we are talking about game development where 6-7 years old computer is really... old.
     
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  3. hippocoder

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    If it means customers would rather not upgrade from 2008 because Apple says so, then so be it. I'm not a Unity employee btw, so don't take this as anything but a personal opinion.

    http://arek.bdmonkeys.net/GLInfo/GLInfo.html
     
  4. elbows

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    Which mac is this exactly? I'm sure my mac pro is from late 2008 and runs the latest OS X.
     
  5. Eric5h5

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    It should be able to; 2008 Mac Pros will run 10.10 in fact.

    They can't keep backwards support forever; the number of customers lost who are running extremely old systems would be outnumbered by the customers lost because of not keeping up with modern technology.

    --Eric
     
  6. seattlebluesky

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    Given the large number of platforms supported for Editor and Player I've gotta think that less is more with respect to Unity 5 product quality.
     
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  7. Garrett-Brown

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    The machine in question is:
    A Macpro with 2 2.66 Dual-Core Intel Xeon processors and 5 GB of ram.
    I agree with you that this machine is "old' and that Unity3d can't run on everything. I am just disappointed that I will have to invest in another $2,000 machine in order to run 10.8 in order to run U5. : (
     
  8. Garrett-Brown

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    I am assuming this is also why Monodevelop isn't running?
    By the way, this machine was able to create a terrain with 155 different terrain tiles with no errors.
     
  9. Garrett-Brown

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    The machine in question is:
    A Macpro with 2 2.66 Dual-Core Intel Xeon processors and 5 GB of ram.
     
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  13. Garrett-Brown

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    So it sounds like my machine can run 10.8 but may have issues? All I know is that Beta 9 works great on this thing. Subsequent betas - not so much (on 10.7.5). I suppose there is only one way to find out and that is to purchase and install 10.8.

    Thank you everyone for your help. Any further insight is greatly appreciated.
     
  14. Dustin-Horne

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    I think your best bet would be to ask in the Apple forums about support for your particular machine before you invest in an upgrade / OSX update.
     
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  15. seattlebluesky

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    Agreed. For sure check with Apple forums and/or the Genius support desk at your local Apple store. If they think you can upgrade, the latest OS Yosemite is free http://www.apple.com/osx/how-to-upgrade/, though your mileage may vary with regards to how well it runs, if it indeed runs at all, on your h/w.
     
  16. Garrett-Brown

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    Already contacted Apple on two occasions regarding the system limit of my machine. Both answers differed.
     
  17. hippocoder

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    With a backup, the worst that can happen is a few hours of your time are wasted. OSX is free last I checked (if upgrading from appstore) - or 30 bucks if you're getting an older hardcopy.
     
  18. Garrett-Brown

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    I agree. Just learned Yosemite (I just hate Apple's nomenclature) is free. Going to try and upgrade tomorrow on the work station (she ain't dead yet!). It is still possible that I just missed the upgrade capability. Thanks again everyone for your help. We'll show the world our rockin'-roll eventually!
     
  19. Garrett-Brown

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    Dead in the water. My mac pro can not run OS10.9 or 10.10.
    Why could I run U5Beta9 but not U5Beta10? This all came to light after MonoDevelop failed to load in U5beta9.
     
  20. hippocoder

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    Not tried 10.8?

    It's a shame because the hardware in it probably runs windows 8.1 just fine with Unity 5. Apple does this purely because it does make more money. I'm not anti-apple but it's clear enough to me.

    Btw - there's plenty of guides online which enable you to install latest OSX on your machine, it requires a little fiddling with files but it works fine from there on. It's mostly an artificial limitation but you cannot guarantee everything obviously. But imo worth a shot.
     
  21. elbows

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    When you go to 'About this mac' (or words to that effect) in the Apple menu at the top of the screen what does it call your model?
     
  22. Garrett-Brown

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    Screen Shot 2015-02-03 at 12.44.55 PM.png
     
  23. Garrett-Brown

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    Yes! -Planned obsolescence. I am fine with fiddling. I'll check it out because I am not financially ready to leap-frog to the new tube-tower that is a quarter the size. thanks. I'll check out the guides.
     
  24. hippocoder

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    Yep you invested in xeons precisely so you wouldn't have to for a few years.
     
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    EFI Architecture: 32-Bit on this system, it can only run the OS in 32bit kernel mode not 64bit. sadly it will not be able to run a 64bit OS.
     
  26. Eric5h5

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    It can if you patch the EFI; do a search. There are people running 10.9 on even older Mac Pros.

    --Eric