Is unity skinned cloth unstable feature or buggy somehow?

There's no such tutorial about it on the net, i've been looking around. And there's not even demos or test video. I tried myself in unity, but it didn't went well. I imported fbx from blender(and it should be animated right), and the vertices to paint were too tiny, almost unseen. What's happenning and what did i do wrong? I don't even know how to fix this, how to do the painting and how it works. And i heard some issues about black vertices, why is it occuring? Unity documentation is not helping btw. Can anyone explains about this skinned cloth how it works? or even make a tutorial for it.

 

I messed with the cloth features awhile back. There really isn't much documentation and it's hard to get right with limited knowledge. Myself, I put it aside for now. It would be nice to use cloaks that have cloth physics like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXRi8Hksbg8

 

Yes, i have seen this. Its shroud plugin, too bad which need extra money for it. I can't afford it. Can't built-in unity physics make something like this? Its already been unity 5, still got no news improvement of cloth physx.

 

From what little I've used cloth simulation (for flags flapping around in the wind). No you shouldn't animate it, paint it as the docs suggest. Reason why your verts might be too small is your character is too small in regards to world scale, but without seeing it I'm guessing on that portion.

 

Are you using interactive cloth or skinned cloth? Isn't it interactive cloth attached with joint physics, for making flags? But for coat, cape, clothings, hair for a game character, interactive cloth isnt a good idea. About the vertices, i guessed so btw.

 

I think you are correct though i'm not entirely sure. It might be possible to get interactions like that one plugin with just your basic 3d program and unity atm.

*I feel like the program they use is just a substitute for say blender or 3dmax.*

 

I've used both for various applications, doesn't matter which one as long as it works and gets the desired effect ..

 

For flags and stuff wouldn't an image on a plane with displacement shader work more efficiently? (but not for clothing)

There's an example in the shadowgun level tutorial.

 

Yes it would work more efficiently, but as I dev for PC's and console I rarely have to worry about it.

 

Wait.. what about the black dots? How to remove it?

 

They're completely redoing cloth for Unity 5

 

Are you sure? how can you know this? I've seen unity 5 video, nothing about cloth physics. Just 2D physics

 

This is the first I've heard of it, but ... yay!!!

 

I've seen the skinned cloth done right on simple models, but the editor interface for it is very picky. Its quite difficult to paint verticies if you have a dense model(you know, for an actual character..). Then there's the black verts, which has to be a bug. Basically, the system is trash and I do hope that they are going to fix it in Unity 5.

 

Yeah, unity is powerful for everything else except for the cloth physics and perhaps some other tools i didn't realised. It'll be coming to PS4/Xbox One platform, why not. That it should be a MUST HAVE feature for any reason.

 

Yea, mind sharing where you heard or read this?

 

Well they are upgrading to Physx 3.3, as the cloth simulations is based on the SDK then it's going to get a lift with it.

https://developer.nvidia.com/physx-sdk

Read all about Unity 5 here:

http://blogs.unity3d.com/2014/03/18/unity-5/

 

Ah. So the troublesome cloth implementation in Unity was really a troublesome PhysX implementation?

 

Yeah, Physx 3 is a major step up from the old implementation. I can see why they were reluctant to upgrade before, but it should improve a lot of things especially performance.

 

I have noticed that cloth often freezes/stops forever if you don't disable physics items from "seeping" in the physics settings of the project

 

I've had limited experience with the cloth renderer, The biggest problem I've run into is the bugged interface (holy hell!) and the performance impact. However for simple physics adjustments it can work quite effectively. In fact it can easily give some extra life to hair meshes and, well, other jiggly things.

 

That's pretty comforting. Thanks for sharing.

 

Unity 4 skinned cloth does -not- use APEX Cloth.

 

Right. It uses Physx.

 

Was this issue resolved in a recent version?

 

@superpig: hmm, okay thank you. It is a bit disappointing that a feature was the whole 4.x cycle not useable... Hopefully Unity 5 will not see such dark days.

 

I exported a simple plane from Blender and I added a cloth component to it and tried to adjust the weights of the vertices in Unity. The size of the vertices are still very tiny that I can barely see them. Help!