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Official Introducing the Editor Iteration Profiler

Discussion in 'Profiler Previews' started by rarepop99, Jun 9, 2020.

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  1. rarepop99

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    Hi!

    First I would like to clarify My physical Stopwatch says "33,19 ms" -> ~33 sec and if you meant 33,190 ms :)

    Secondly, EIP uses data provided by the Profiler which does have some overhead. For example if you were to use Deep Profiling, those times would be even higher. There's also overhead from the windows themselves. As recommended in the original post, best results are achieved by closing most of the windows then checking out the data. You can also try exporting in HTML which will show you the % distribution of those timings (more useful to know the % of time it takes relative to everything else rather than the exact timing).

    If you want more accurate timings I would suggest you wrap your code with the StopWatch class and handle those yourself.

    Thirdly, as the Domain Reload takes multiple frames and steps it would be a bit difficult to reflect the real timing of it. What this tool provides is a way to identify frames that would be responsible for the majority of the time.
     
    rarepop99, May 3, 2021
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  2. Hannibal_Leo

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    Yes, it was a typo xD

    Talking about recompile time here - so I guess, it is not affected by the "Enter Play Mode Settings".

    So to be clear, the EIP does or does not include scene reloading (including Awakes/OnEnable of GameObjects in the Scene, set to [ExecuteAlways]) ?

    The difference is 15 seconds, so it has to be something quite big ...

    I know that all(?) Constructors of Scripts in the Scene and ScriptableObjects are called, while the old ones are thrown away, generating a lot of garbage and it takes some time for GC to clean it up..
    Maybe that's what is missing here? Or something else?
    That's what happens at domain reload "Backup, unload and recreate C# state", right?
     
    Hannibal_Leo, May 3, 2021
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  3. rarepop99

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    Yes, info such as Awake/OnEnable info should be something EIP collects. This tool is more meant to help you as the user to identify problematic areas in your code which you could do something about. EIP simply uses data provided by the Profiler.

    We also report some timings for domain reload in the Editor Logs, maybe check these out too? I don't think the use case you are describing where you want to see for how long the Editor is non-interactible during a domain reload is supported as you would expect, unfortunately.
     
    rarepop99, May 4, 2021
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  4. Bryan-Legend

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    I've done a ton of optimization and now the majority of my enter/exit times are used in the backup/load scene code, as shown in the attached screenshot.

    The scene I'm working with has thousands of objects and saves to 56mb of YAML on an SSD with a 32 core CPU.

    1. Can your team spend some time optimizing this part of Unity? It would be of high value to everyone. Perhaps multi-threading it like Factorio talks about at the end of this blog post: Friday Facts #364 - 1.1 stable | Factorio

    2. How much performance is lost by using YAML vs. binary saving?

    3. Is there a way to flag a scene as Binary so that I can used mixed mode and not convert my entire project to binary serialization (which takes a few hours)?


    upload_2021-5-13_13-17-41.png
     
    Bryan-Legend, May 13, 2021
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  5. Bryan-Legend

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    I was able to use mixed by saving a new copy of the scene. Switching to binary scene did not have much of an effect as shown here.
    upload_2021-5-13_13-31-38.png
     
    Bryan-Legend, May 13, 2021
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  6. liortal

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    Is this package still maintained? @Rarepops
    On GitHub, last update was around 8 months ago.
     
    liortal, Jun 6, 2021
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  7. rarepop99

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    Hey! Unfortunately, no updates are planned anytime soon, but we're working on other tools that can help users in similar fashion.

    Also, it's basically just reusing the Profiler data such that you could still get this info, albeit manually.
     
    rarepop99, Jun 7, 2021
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  8. ARESGOW224

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    Hello! I made a not so obvious astronomical mistake somewhere during development which ended up causing about a 9 minute load time when exiting play mode. Found the event that is causing the huge chunk of time loss but I'm not sure how to modify the event. Its called "Prefabs.ApplyModificationsToObjects." Any advice would be greatly appreciated! :)
    upload_2021-6-13_20-4-5.png
     

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  9. rarepop99

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    Is it something consistent you're seeing?
     
    rarepop99, Jun 14, 2021
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    rarepop99, Jun 14, 2021
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  11. ARESGOW224

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    Yes. Every time it takes about 9 minutes. What do you think could be affecting that event?
     
    ARESGOW224, Jun 14, 2021
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  12. Baste

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    Seems like you either have some very complicated prefab hierarchies, or there's something very bad in the prefab code.
     
    Baste, Jun 14, 2021
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  13. ARESGOW224

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    What would specifically make a prefab complicated? Amount of individual assets? Number of components? Because I do have moving platforms with a dozen or so additional assets attatched. Or perhaps the static flags? I just noticed almost all my static objects are flagged for every static selection. Occluder static, lightmap static, batch static etc...
     
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    ARESGOW224, Jun 14, 2021
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  14. Baste

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    I don't know, but I assume prefab variants with a lot of overrides?

    Definitely sounds like you ought to send a bug report with the project attached, sounds like there's room for improvements that can help everyone.
     
    Baste, Jun 15, 2021
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  15. AlienFreak

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    Can someone update this to work with Unity 2021? Nothing prints in the window except errors, the JSON export can't be read by Chrome Tracing and the HTML is the only functional way of getting at the profile data but it's pretty painful to use.
     
    AlienFreak, Aug 27, 2021
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  16. rarepop99

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    Thanks for letting us know! I will take a look at it if time permits (pretty starved for bandwidth lately), right now it isn't maintained and hasn't been for over a year. The plan is to eventually have some better tool to replace this anyway.

    If you feel adventurous, you could attempt fixing the issues, I will review and accept Pull Requests :)
     
    Last edited: Aug 31, 2021
    rarepop99, Aug 31, 2021
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  17. ZenTeapot

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    unity 2020.3.16f
    after a simple code change, with deep profile on, the profier seems unable to report assembly reload related stats, with this error in the console

    ArgumentException: Could not find thread named 'Domain unloader'
    UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.UnityProfiling.GetFrame (System.Int32 frameIndex, System.String threadName) (at Library/PackageCache/com.unity.editoriterationprofiler@e05c43da15/Editor/UnityProfiling.cs:86)
    UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.ProfilerDataCollector.ReadProfilingData (UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.IterationEventRoot iterationEventRoot, UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.EventData parentEventData, UnityEditor.Profiling.HierarchyFrameDataView frameData, System.Int32 sampleId, UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.EventDataFlags flags, System.Boolean parentHasSingleChild) (at Library/PackageCache/com.unity.editoriterationprofiler@e05c43da15/Editor/ProfilerDataCollector.cs:278)
    UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.ProfilerDataCollector.ReadProfilingData (UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.IterationEventRoot iterationEventRoot, UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.EventData parentEventData, UnityEditor.Profiling.HierarchyFrameDataView frameData, System.Int32 sampleId, UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.EventDataFlags flags, System.Boolean parentHasSingleChild) (at Library/PackageCache/com.unity.editoriterationprofiler@e05c43da15/Editor/ProfilerDataCollector.cs:298)
    UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.ProfilerDataCollector.ReadProfilingData (UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.IterationEventRoot iterationEventRoot, UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.EventData parentEventData, UnityEditor.Profiling.HierarchyFrameDataView frameData, System.Int32 sampleId, UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.EventDataFlags flags, System.Boolean parentHasSingleChild) (at Library/PackageCache/com.unity.editoriterationprofiler@e05c43da15/Editor/ProfilerDataCollector.cs:298)
    UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.ProfilerDataCollector.ReadProfilingData (UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.IterationEventRoot iterationEventRoot, UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.EventData parentEventData, UnityEditor.Profiling.HierarchyFrameDataView frameData, System.Int32 sampleId, UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.EventDataFlags flags, System.Boolean parentHasSingleChild) (at Library/PackageCache/com.unity.editoriterationprofiler@e05c43da15/Editor/ProfilerDataCollector.cs:298)
    UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.ProfilerDataCollector.ReadProfilingData (UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.IterationEventRoot iterationEventRoot, UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.EventData parentEventData, UnityEditor.Profiling.HierarchyFrameDataView frameData, System.Int32 sampleId, UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.EventDataFlags flags, System.Boolean parentHasSingleChild) (at Library/PackageCache/com.unity.editoriterationprofiler@e05c43da15/Editor/ProfilerDataCollector.cs:298)
    UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.ProfilerDataCollector.ReadProfilingData (UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.IterationEventRoot iterationEventRoot, UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.EventData parentEventData, UnityEditor.Profiling.HierarchyFrameDataView frameData, System.Int32 sampleId, UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.EventDataFlags flags, System.Boolean parentHasSingleChild) (at Library/PackageCache/com.unity.editoriterationprofiler@e05c43da15/Editor/ProfilerDataCollector.cs:298)
    UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.ProfilerDataCollector.ReadProfilingData (UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.IterationEventRoot iterationEventRoot, UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.EventData parentEventData, UnityEditor.Profiling.HierarchyFrameDataView frameData, System.Int32 sampleId, UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.EventDataFlags flags, System.Boolean parentHasSingleChild) (at Library/PackageCache/com.unity.editoriterationprofiler@e05c43da15/Editor/ProfilerDataCollector.cs:298)
    UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.ProfilerDataCollector.ReadProfilingData (UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.IterationEventRoot iterationEventRoot, UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.EventData parentEventData, UnityEditor.Profiling.HierarchyFrameDataView frameData, System.Int32 sampleId, UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.EventDataFlags flags, System.Boolean parentHasSingleChild) (at Library/PackageCache/com.unity.editoriterationprofiler@e05c43da15/Editor/ProfilerDataCollector.cs:298)
    UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.ProfilerDataCollector.ReadProfilingData (UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.IterationEventRoot iterationEventRoot, UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.EventData parentEventData, UnityEditor.Profiling.HierarchyFrameDataView frameData, System.Int32 sampleId, UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.EventDataFlags flags, System.Boolean parentHasSingleChild) (at Library/PackageCache/com.unity.editoriterationprofiler@e05c43da15/Editor/ProfilerDataCollector.cs:298)
    UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.ProfilerDataCollector.ReadProfilingData (UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.IterationEventRoot iterationEventRoot, UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.EventData parentEventData, UnityEditor.Profiling.HierarchyFrameDataView frameData, System.Int32 sampleId, UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.EventDataFlags flags, System.Boolean parentHasSingleChild) (at Library/PackageCache/com.unity.editoriterationprofiler@e05c43da15/Editor/ProfilerDataCollector.cs:298)
    UnityEditor.EditorIterationProfiler.ProfilerDataCollector.ProfilerNewFrame (System.Int32 connectionId, System.Int32 newFrameIndex) (at Library/PackageCache/com.unity.editoriterationprofiler@e05c43da15/Editor/ProfilerDataCollector.cs:220)
    UnityEditorInternal.ProfilerDriver.InvokeNewProfilerFrameRecorded (System.Int32 connectionId, System.Int32 newFrameIndex) (at /Users/bokken/buildslave/unity/build/Modules/ProfilerEditor/Public/ProfilerAPI.bindings.cs:308)
     
    ZenTeapot, Sep 22, 2021
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  18. ZenTeapot

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    Changing "unloader" to "Unloader" appears to fix the issue.
     
    ZenTeapot, Sep 22, 2021
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  19. rarepop99

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    rarepop99, Sep 23, 2021
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  20. Baste

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    I tried using this recently to figure out why entering play mode through the test runner seems to take forever sometimes. Turns out the test runner completely breaks the tool.

    Starting and ending a play mode test doesn't cause the iteration profiler to show anything. The next time we enter play mode normally, however, the iteration profiler suddenly gets one entry for every play mode test we started previously, but all of them are showing a time of 0.

    Any chance of bugs like that getting fixed since the tool's apparently not really supported anymore? What's the status of the "thing that will eventually replace this"?
     
    Baste, Jan 17, 2022
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  21. rarepop99

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    Yeah, unfortunately it's not being supported at all... your best option is to use the Profiler and or try to mimic the functionality yourself (or fix the Markers, probably the lookups are broken).

    From the Profiler team's focuses, for the moment the Memory Profiler is their focus for the near-future it seems, so nothing to replace this tool yet. Maybe try com.unity.performance.profile-analyzer?
     
    rarepop99, Feb 1, 2022
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  22. stonstad

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    This tool, or one similar to it, needs to be a first class citizen within Unity.

    The editor iteration performance issue is very impactful and this tool is currently the easiest way to drill down through the hierarchical timing data. I can't imagine any thing more important.
     
    stonstad, Feb 8, 2022
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  23. MartinTilo

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    We agree with you that iteration time and tooling around it is very important for the day to day work within Unity. We'd love to provide better tooling around it and actually integrate it into the normal profiling workflow. Because we don't want to fracture the Tools space more than it already is, and because we think the things needed for this carry a broader benefit for everything else in terms of profiling: Allowing infinite captures and saving of frames bigger than 2GB and bookmarking Iteration Time events and loading all that into the Profile Analyzer were things we considered in our planning. It was a tough choice but, this time around, getting Memory Profiler to 1.0 won over these points.

    That said, other teams are looking at this issue very intently and there are now diagnostic switches to help analyze Iteration Times.

    That said we'll reevaluate priorities after Memory Profiler reaches 1.0 (targeted ETA around 2022.2 beta) and take your comment and the iteration times situation into that consideration. For your context: It'll be up there next to (among others) taking Memory Profiler beyond 1.0 and platform wide GPU profiling support.
     
    MartinTilo, Feb 9, 2022
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  24. Baste

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    Honestly, if you really want a lot of bang for very little buck, being able to limit captures to frames over a certain threshold of time or gc would help tremendously.

    The main reason why the editor iteration profiler is useful is that it's able to automatically filter out the frames that take very long, so you don't have to sit ready to hit the "stop recording" button once long frame has finished.

    A filter that allows us to just drop frames that are shorter than X would essentially give us the exact same data as the editor iteration profiler, for a lot less work, and it'd be generally useful otherwise.
     
    Baste, Feb 9, 2022
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  25. MartinTilo

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    That is a fair point and something we considered at the time.
    One key issue that remains in the workflow with that is that you are then stuck with taking screenshots of that data to report bugs to us, as more often than not, these frames would be the ones bigger than 2 GB so you wouldn't be able to save that data out and also not then load it to compare it at a later date.

    Ideally I'd also like us to have a proper setup for automatically bookmarking such frames in a slight more sophisticated way than that and that we build this in a forward facing way towards that vision, instead of as a one off fix that would possibly convolute the follow on step down the line, but it should just require a bit more care and focus on that future while implementing such an intermediate step.

    That said, it could be something that slots in as a small intermediate step between the other broad strokes I mentioned above, as we assess this during planning. In an ideal world we (as in the Profiler Team) would be able to focus on a few key product aspects at a time to address the workflows more holistically, but I accept that that does not necessarily meet the existing and urgent needs in the right way, or properly reflect the practical reality for that matter.
     
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  26. AnsisMalinsUbisoft

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    When Editor Iteration Profiler is installed from OpenUPM, the editor complains that
    Unity logs this error every time I alt-tab to it, which is extra annoying.
     
    AnsisMalinsUbisoft, Mar 3, 2022
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  27. rarepop99

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    Hm, I was sure this was fixed at some point
     
    rarepop99, Mar 4, 2022
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  30. Zapan15

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    Is there a way to make this built in for the editor?
     
    Zapan15, Apr 21, 2022
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  31. rarepop99

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    What do you mean, built in? What are you looking to accomplish?
     
    rarepop99, Apr 22, 2022
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  32. Zapan15

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    I would like to have the profiler built in into the unity editor, without the need of adding the stuff from github.
    I guess that this could be really handy for a lot of users. :)
    I came across this post by searching the web.
     
    Zapan15, Apr 25, 2022
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    Elapotp, May 2, 2022
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  34. theforgot3n1

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    Just wanted to check in here and ask what the status on this editor tool is. It seems very useful for medium to large projects.
     
    theforgot3n1, Dec 4, 2022
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  35. alexeyzakharov

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    Thanks for the question! Profiler team is planning to look at the Editor Iteration tooling during the next 6 months and explore whether it would be best to integrate Editor Iteration profiler main profiler (e.g. by solving mentioned above issues such as 2GB save limit, ability to filter incoming frame, ability to incorporate events from other processes) or have it as a separate supported package.
     
    alexeyzakharov, Dec 6, 2022
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