InstantOC - dynamic occlusion culling + LOD

We purchased the asset a few days ago, and it works well on our game. However, the asset takes too much time per frame's time. Most of time spent in firing rays from pixels. I am investigating why does it happen and I see that the method CullingGroup.QueryIndices(...) always return 0. It means that CullingGroup with sphere doesn't work. However, when I use CullingGroup.OnStateChanged, it still notify me when a sphere is in or out of Frustum View. Could you help me explain what's the purpose of CullingGroup.QUeryIndices(), does it affect our performance when it always return 0, and why it returns 0?

 

Hi, I just purchased this asset and checked out the demo scene in unity 5.6.. I am having a lot of issues with it. The objects seem to flicker a lot, they don't seem to occlude each other, even when occludee is ticked, and the performance in the demo is far far worse with IOC on then with IOC off??? For example, with 4000 objects in the demo scene with IOC off the FPS is 200, with IOC on the FPS is 110? If there is an issue with 5.6? If so how can it be fixed? If not, am I able to request a refund?

 

Hello,
thank you for your purchase!
This is probably only a setup issue, if we can't figure this out, I'll offer you a refund.
Please try the following:
Create a new blank project, load InstantOC and open the demo scene.
Locate the "Logo" prefab and in the IOClod component of the Logo prefab uncheck "occludee".
Press play, check if there are reported errors in the console.

 

Hello!
In InstantOC you can mark small/distant/sparse objects as static (in the IOClod script), it's an optimization to reduce flickering of small/distant/sparse objects.
The function call you are mentioning deals with this IOClod static objects, if there aren't objects marked as static (in IOClod) it returns 0.
What values do you use? (Sample rays, etc..)

 

@frenchfaso about your poll. I haven't yet used your LOD function of InstantOC yet but I probably would if it would greatly optimise performance but I wonder maybe it would help you maintain both better if it were a plugin that you could modify the code easier as a separate system.

 

What the object structure is needed for IOC to work?
My gameobjects are heavily structures due to my game design, and their colliders are not the parents of their models(I have to manipulate multiple colliders at the same time in runtime). Can IOC deal with gameobjects like this?

 

Hello! Why buy this and not use Unitys standard? ...I see alot of performance and bug complaints....

 

You would use this for dynamic scenes, like if you were using a randomly generated "dungeon" for your play area, you could use IOC to eliminate drawing of meshes in rooms that can't be seen.

On the other hand, while this worked fine in a project I set up about two months ago, I just tried to set it up in another one and I'm not able to get it working. So I'm not sure if there's a Unity version bug, or if I somehow set it up wrong (it's easy to set up), or what.

 

Thanl you for a good answer! Then I dont think this is something for me.. I have a big terrain made with gaia and alot of trees and forest stuff and houses spawnded with gena and using advanced foliage shader 5 with all foliage.. Im using lod... but I think Unitys OC would work just fine..

 

You are probably right. Devs who are baking generally don't need dynamic OC, and all the billboarding of trees should help you a ton.

 

@frenchfaso @Wright Having an issue in Voxeland, as soon as I installed InstantOC and hit play the Character in the Voxeland Demo slowly started flying up and in one straight direction!! All player controls don't effect it. This happens even without InstantOC scripts added to the scene. Using Unity 5.6.4p1

Update: I had set it up wrong - I haven't touched IOC in a while.. just to show everyone it works well, I've doubled my frame rate with Voxeland, people might now be able to use Voxeland in their Mobile games

 

Recently i was use InstantOC,in this package "IOCcam" Script take a long time to execute.
is there any way to decrease time to load the scene ?

 

im torn between this & VRDOC - Dynamic Occlusion Culling... for my VR projects..

 

Hey, frenchfaso. I've bought InstantOC because my whole game is based on procedural generation. Unfortunately I have problems from the begin, I build world using cubes but I've got this:

Code (CSharp):

1. NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
2. IOClod.HideAll () (at Assets/InstantOC/IOClod.cs:532)
3. IOClod.Initialize () (at Assets/InstantOC/IOClod.cs:134)
4. IOClod.Start () (at Assets/InstantOC/IOClod.cs:128)
5.  

then

Code (CSharp):

1. IndexOutOfRangeException: Index was outside the bounds of the array.
2. IOCcam.AddBoundingSphere (UnityEngine.BoundingSphere sphere) (at Assets/InstantOC/IOCcam.cs:64)
3. IOClod.Start () (at Assets/InstantOC/IOClod.cs:100)
4.  

and more:

Code (CSharp):

1. NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
2. IOClod.ShowLod (System.Single d) (at Assets/InstantOC/IOClod.cs:378)
3. IOClod.UnHide (UnityEngine.RaycastHit h) (at Assets/InstantOC/IOClod.cs:315)
4. IOCcam.Unhide (UnityEngine.Transform t, UnityEngine.RaycastHit hit) (at Assets/InstantOC/IOCcam.cs:150)
5. IOCcam.Update () (at Assets/InstantOC/IOCcam.cs:140)
6.  

Settings in attachement.

 

Hi -- I'm interested in this but it looks like your demo links are broken. Is there a current demo I could try?

The links to the user manual and FAQ and stuff are broken too, says your blog is only open to invited readers.

 

Im having some trouble, when the camera pans over an occluded object, it is unhidden as it enters the view, as it should be.

But it never gets hidden again as the camera moves away, no matter what I set the Hide Delay to.

Im using Unity version 2.018.1.6f.

 

Is this still active or supported?

 

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frenchfaso, Jul 11, 2017Report

version 3.0.0 (current) released May 17, 2018

 

I'm about to buy this to use it with Dungeon Architect (randomly generated dungeons) and MapMagic (procedural world). anyone has experience with any of these? Also, unity version is 2018.3.0f2, does InstantOC works with it?

 

I don't have any experience using the various occlusion plugins with DA - and I don't have recent experience using InstantOC, specifically, either - but IIRC the developer of DA was thinking about adding some automatic mesh combining ...? Something like that. I may not be remembering correctly. But keep in mind that mesh combining and occlusion culling can fight each other, and it can take some thought to get them to work appropriately.

I'd say that - in general - if you're using DA to generate internal dungeons, where the camera only sees something like one room at a time, then occlusion culling like InstantOC is going to win the day, because even though all of the rest of the dungeon has been generated and exists, only the room seen by the camera will be rendered. For that type of scenario you generally want to avoid mesh combining, and you probably don't even need LOD. However, if in your game the camera is elevated and showing building exteriors, streets, and terrain where broad vistas are visible ... then maybe a mesh combining / LOD / instancing solution is going to get you the most performance.

 

Thanks for the reply, my game is First Person so I guess that would fit InstantOC, I ll wait an answer from the developer here regarding unity versions supported an any other hint before purchasing tho

 

I must implore you to opensource this tool now that it has gone free for the good of the userbase.

 

Hy @jawasjnsdjn that's the plan indeed ;-)
I have to check with the Assetstore team if there are licensing issues opensourcing a former paid package, if not, InstantOC's new home will be Github.
Feels like the right thing to do since I haven't updated it in a long time.

 

Hello everyone,
finally got a response from the Assetstore team, and it turns out I can opensource InstantOC!
It will need a permissive license like MIT, BSD 3-clause or Apache, other than that, there are no limitations.
I'll polish it a bit (the demo scene doesn't work anymore on the latest Unity LTS release) and publish it on github hopefully in the next couple of weeks.
Stay tuned!

 

I'm not an expert, but I think MIT is the preferred one.

 

Hello @frenchfaso are you still offering support for this asset? Upon implementing it into my game that has a procedurally generated dungeon maze, my FPS dropped significantly. I used to get around 90-120fps, but now it's around 10-20fps. I would prefer not having to write my own occlusion culling system if I can get yours to work efficiently.

I read through some of the reviews, and saw one or two other users running into similar problems. You replied to them that it could be a setup issue. Could you explain the most common cause of FPS loss when using your IOC tool?

*Edit 1* : Nevermind, I am just writing my own OC, so it's all good.

 

Hello guys, any new on this? It was added git?

 

Is this project still active? I couldn't find it on github?

 

@frenchfaso

Hi I didn't set LODs and I will randomly start getting spammed with this error, i have the trees being spawned in a removed by world streamer but i have attached your script to my trees to help with lag, it works great until this error bogs me down



The Trees have their own LOD system, am I supposed to attach the script to each LOD or just the parent?