I'm jealous of the Unreal developers...

That's nice. I don't have a back pack yet.

The bunny looking thing is a portable power supply for charging USB devices. (At least I think it is, in the chaos of moving countries I haven't actually attempted to use it yet. Its also possible it opens a portal to an alternate dimension.)

 

[Gets pissed off and leaves.]

 

Why is everyone leaving?

Also, why am I here on the forums and not working on my game?

 

Because they are pissed off.

 

This is the thread of life.

Don't get to see this often. How can a thread stand after a disgruntled mod has passed through it?

Some of us don't have the span of time we desire to put into our games in 1 sitting. The forums are attractive because they can be successfully used in very short windows of time.

 

Excellent procrastination from lectures as well

 

@hippocoder thanks Man ! (as I recognize myself mmm) and yeah my avatar is funny and all.... lol !

err... you were talking about, me right ?

 

Unity forums are great with some great people , and you will get some help as you will always find someone to help you or give you advices. And this is a great ressources for infos, coding examples, solutions or interesting news about incoming features.
Also when you are fully occupied making a game you won't have too much time to spend on forums, you'll keep your energy and time for your game.

Perhaps this is the difference between hobbyst that care too much about forum mood or contests and somewhat more pro staying focused on their game.

Wee are too much buzzy with our games already , we don't have time to make competition games

 

OK on the Unity forums I raise a topic that asks what we can do to boost the fun factor and I get 50 responses:

And only a handful of responses are relevant to discussing how the Unity community could improve!

The topic descends into a who got the best Unity goody bag competition.

I would just like to thank the helpful few who chipped in and the rest of the Unity community for proving my point.

I checked on Alexa and Unity3d.com has a much higher rank than Unrealengine.com, but Unity3d is dropping and Unrealengine.com is rising...

 

So you want features that are only in UE4, now you want the community of UE4... You're not using UE why exactly? Unity will never be Unreal and vice versa, choose what you need..... End of problem.

Also I'll disagree on the last part.. I find this forum fun yet professional / logical.. I also think the Unity training video's are short / precise and very informative.

 

First we're not any fun, now we're too funny?

Make up your mind!

 

I don't care what community is "better" honestly. I am here for the product.

The only thing I am missing from Unity forums exactly, are Unity devs, I rarely see one posting here. Yes some times can be risky to visit this forum, but in the same time I think Unity devs ignore the fact that we are here because we love Unity.

 

I guess fun is subjective then. Unless your idea of fun is totalitarian.

So the devs should ignore the product and post on forums so that you can enjoy the product they're ignoring? For developers to respond effectively, they must stop work...

 

Seems to me that a lot of the reason the community is "no fun" is because of all the people who whine that Unity isn't Unreal.

 

Fallowing your logic then Unreal Devs never coded...

 

The idea was how could we make this more fun?

 

Get back to making games and you won't have time to complain about things

 

I don't know but I want some.
All I have is a hand me down Unite 2015 t-shirt I got from WAUUG. But that originated from Unity so I'm grateful for it.
I didn't know Answers was the place to get awesome schwag. I've been posting in the wrong area all this time!

[Gets pissed off and leaves.]
[Continues to lurk 'watched threads' in a tabbed window]

 

I agree with @BoredMormon - the thread could have started with a less adversarial tone.

I think @Arowx has a legitimate point, though - officially sponsored small-game/machinima competitions are a good idea, as it encourages use of the tool. I'd go even further with music and art competitions, personally, but those have less to do with Unity than other tools.

Also, @zombiegorilla is right - as a community, we've done great things. @Gigiwoo's Game Design forum is an experiment that, a year later, appears to be a resounding success. I know it's helping me make a new great game using Unity, and it appears to have helped other developers.

Who knows, an annual game tournament, or even an 'Expo' like my RPGToolkit days, might be good ideas. As a community, we've made things change in a good way, by being the good change we want to make happen, before. Anyone want to give the community an encore?

 

Maybe if we write in kryptonian... Let's go! we don't have so much time http://www.omniglot.com/writing/kryptonian.php


Ps: I don't have any Unity t-shirt or hat

 

A monthly game jam would be fun, with the winner choosing the topic for the next month.

http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=52751.0

They always have a lot of small competitions going.

 

@Thomas Pasieka did some sketchfab competitions with regular prizes that everyone seems to have forgot. Mostly people didn't show enough interest. So while prizes are fun and good, it's only if it doesn't take people much effort it seems...

 

I browse Unreal 4 forums , and i really don't see any fun or need for fun when the discussion are in the WIP section, Graphics section or request as exemples.
Perhaps you are talking about specific threads like "off topic" , or "events" .
You would need to work on a team project with fun guys , than you would not ask for fun on forums.
If UE4 forums are so fun really ? what is the fun factor ? competition mainly ? events ?
I really don't understand that UE4 forums fun factor sorry, but if you find it fun , just join UE4 forums and use UE4 , you can use as many 3D engines as you like.

I agree it is like 3D engine , 3D software or any product or site choice.

 

I ran the competitions for a good while indeed. Unity Tech. even promoted it in their newsletter and on Twitter. The Sketchfab guys also promoted it and a few people did all they could to promote it but in the end it seemed like there just wasn't that much interest. Not sure if I should try to start these competitions up again.

 

Perhaps a Unity game competition , not a 3D art competition ; with some video showing gameplay from the game winners.
I think there is lot of people not producing a complete game that could be interested, this could become some Unity popular event and who knows some competition games could surprise people or turn to a full game later.
I think this could attract lof of people and attention perhaps ? Something to try and see how it goes ?

 

With a Q&A thread for the winning entry, so people can ask the author questions and maybe even get some good from that too.

 

@zenGarden Funny you mention that because I did have those kind of thoughts. Allowing "Teams" to build a small game entry. Running the competition every 2 or 3 months should be enough time I think. Thoughts?

 

Maybe a ludum dare format is more exciting for developers. If it's 2-3 months, tbh I don't think many people stick with their main projects that long... and could lead to reskin efforts.

 

People state unity community is not serrious at all state it as a HUGE disadvantage
Not ME.

 

There already lots of Jams. I don't think people would generally respond to a monthly Jam. We have/had some Monthly stuff (with prizes, even) and it didn't really seem to stick.

At best, possibly a semi annual Official Unity Jam with a short time frame or something would pull attention and enough participation to merit prizes. Then again, doing these things officially takes resources from Unity so it's not always feasible to scale that up with their existing events.

Theres also a bunch of local stuff. In Houston we have meets and I know most other major US cities have meetups and small events that are pretty fun to attend. I just went to a Show And Tell meetup last night with like 30 people at it.

 

UE4 made also individual game competition , not all events was team competition.
But yes team competition will force Unity users to collaborate to make a game, this make them learn to know eahc other and why not discover some talents, affinities, and whyy not some collaboration could turn in some real team to make later a complete game.

About the event , perhaps like UE4 , each month, so this is a short delay, so people will have to produce more quickly a shorter game so they don't feel loosing motivation. And team will learn team collaboration way of working and will learn workflow or coding things also, this could be a great experience to get on making a game for lot of people.
And some monthly event is more appealing than 2 months events also.
This sort of event should work i think; to test at least; and could become popular if winners would be showcased on some Unity meetings events or showcased well on Unity front page and the forums. Exposing that event to make it appealing as people will like to be on front news.
Just my thaughts on that.

 

What about some Unity official event like Epic is doing ? This is not the same appeal compared to a small local event for participants.

 

I don't think there has been a link posted to describe their event, can we get one?

 

Look at the list of participants there are a lot.
https://forums.unrealengine.com/sho...015-THEME-STANDING-ON-THE-SHOULDERS-OF-GIANTS

 

Can we add those to the Game Dev Memes thread?

 

Theres always a gamejam running somewhere. if we had a gamejam every week we would run into fatigue syndrome, I guess maybe something like gigis 2 week on, 2 week off thing.

 

So, why would Unity's community be unfun just because Epic decided to throw a Game Jam?

 

I am new to Unity but I can speak to such events as you speak but speaking for me personally those type of events and efforts have zero affect on me and a negative affect if I am forced to do them (like in work).

But to be fair I am a bit of loner

 

I am not a big fan of those events, especially challenges, and even more especially time challenges.

 

Unity don't specially need that event type.
But Unity could try it, and see if it is as many interested people and participants as it is on UE4 Forums perhaps ?
Quick made small games are something some people could be interested.
Have you looked at Epic month games jams ? lot of time people just use 3D art they can find and make some quick and simple gameplay, and sometimes there is interesting results.
Some sort of Game Jam organised by the 3D engine you use is always more engaging than other game jams.
Well i also don't need that game jam, this is only some discussion if it could become some engaging event.

And i agree that forums main goal is not the fun factor , but in priority learning, helping and sharing or open discussions.

 

Want some science? Competitions are funny. Here's some random science that might apply:

• Tangible rewards are less motivating than we expect. Unless the reward is massive, it actually reduces motivation, as in, "My time is worth more than that." The extrinsic reward replaces the intrinsic value.
• No reward is often better than a small reward.
• Rewards are almost always valued when they are unexpected (for instance, no reward mentioned, and then, "cool, I got a t-shirt, too!").
• Competitions, winning, and judging does matter. For it's own sake.
• Competitions require a community, like a game jam. People participate, because others are participating.
• Less frequency with success is better than more. Small successes can lead to bigger successes.
• Past performance is the best predictor of future performance. Unfortunately, this can also work against you.

Carry on,
Gigi

 

and Ironically Competition within a community fragments the community and makes it less efficient.

aka. what Steve Ballmer did to Microsoft

 

That's overreaching competition mandatory for continued employment, not casual competition. Nobody is suggesting people get banned if they don't participate/don't win a game jam.

 

I would call an event like that Capitalism : round two

 

Especially when one of the goals here is support other developers. People could become a lot less motivated to help someone if they feel that other person is a competitor for a free copy of
Pro or whatever.

I like jams, I do them often. I don't think official jams here would be bad idea in general, as long as they are infrequent and short, and have value like supporting a new feature or something. If they are too prevalent and overwhelm the forum traffic, it risks becoming the focus of activity. This forum is primarily a discussion forum for users of unity to congregate. Not a contest site or game publishing site. It doesn't need to be deviantart or anything to specialized. There are places for that stuff.

 

Traduction :
UE4 users are having fun on forums while Unity users are too buzzy working on new games

 

Reserve a few Pro awards for 'most helpful community members'

 

This has actually had me scratching my head for a bit. You want us to have more fun, but as soon as we start being playful in response to your encouragement you complain that we're not taking your thread seriously enough.

Also, with the exception of that mentioned playfulness, I thought that every post here was relevant.