How do you learn & make your game without your idea being stolen or after your idea has been stolen?

Ryiah, that's your perspective and your interpretation of the situation and you're welcome to it and I'm not going to try and talk you out of it, but I just don't see it that way.

 

Don't believe for one moment you're the only person on these forums to have faced depression. I had it for years and I've known others who have either had it or still have it.

We may seem a bit aggressive pushing our opinions, but we aren't being purposefully antagonistic in most cases.

 

I know, I understand that completely and I wish I could "tripple-like" that one last part of your post. I'm very very grateful to the majority of the people who have posted useful advice to this thread and it really pains me to think they may feel they're being "tarred with the same brush". That is in no way my intention.

 

Wow. I'm sorry if my posts hurt you, Centigrade. Please accept my most heart felt apologies.

 

I find it almost entirley impossible to believe you're even remotely sincere in saying that.

 

Centrigrade, I have extensive and deep experience with a very severe form of depression, both in myself and in several people close to me. I have seen the ways to get better and the ways to get worse. You are making a logical error, and this is keeping you down. I know it can be difficult to see through it, but that is the nature of the illness. Your error is that you trust your own judgement, even though it is impaired, kind of like intoxication. You admit you are sick, what you have to come to terms with is that, due to the illness, you are unable to think for yourself. Listen to other people, stop listening to yourself. Do what other people tell you, have some faith that others are good and want to help.

 

@Mwsc put it much nicer than I, so here is the kick in the pants version.

You need to get your sh*t together. Honestly, do you really think people go out of their way to make you have a bad day? Newsflash: Ony and the others here are not so free of spare time that, out of pure boredom, they come here to rain on your parade. That kind of thinking is pure narcissism. These people who you wish 'didn't exist' are actually taking time out of their day to offer you advice based on years of experience. You couldn't even afford to pay for all the advice people have given you so far, and 99% newbies posting for help would kill to have as much feedback as you have.

If you are going to assume you understand peoples motives, assume for the best. If you don't like someones advice, simply thank them for their time and move on. Instead of focusing on whether people will steal your non-existent game, focus on creating something of value. Choose to take a positive view of your creative work, not a negative one.

Because, after all, which is more likely to lead to lead to success and happiness?

 

This whole thread is an unmitigated disaster.

@Ony - Those aren't game ideas, those little bits about italian plumbers and yellow fruit eating circles... those are stories. I suppose any story can be turned into a good game? Figured I'd come on here just to set up a straw man (or straw woman... gender equality) a day after Christmas.

@Centigrade - I prefer Fahrenheit.

 

Ok, then how about this idea: The game is 2D (or 3D), and the character runs (or walks, or flies, or...) from one place to another, avoids or destroys things, and collects items for a score (or to proceed, or for health). There is also a set number of lives (variable).

I'm going to make a mint!!!!

 

Good point you unintentionally raised.

A specific idea has value exactly because you can literally do anything, it's choosing what things you aren't doing that's tough. Limiting the scope of what you're trying to do down to a single, doable idea that looks good on paper and sounds cool is no easy task.

Anyone can crap out vagueness that seems awesome, not everyone can actually produce an honest-to-goodness great game idea.

 

You know, I'm tired of talking about this, because to be honest, In the end, I simply don't care. Someone asked for advice, I gave it from my own personal viewpoint, and they got their feelings hurt, then they said they wish people like me didn't exist. Good stuff. I'll think twice next time about sharing advice with newbies. Now there's an idea.

 

And while you're learning the ways o' the world, don't give money to those guys holding signs, either.

I just laugh when people asking me for advice/favors/help turn hostile. They're showing exactly why they have nothing compared to you.

 

I think that's a good idea, because I think you really are doing more harm than good and I think you and I think you know that as well as I do, but I don't think your behaviour should be able to be so easily brushed under the carpet...
http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/ho...ea-has-been-stolen.287079/page-3#post-1898593

Mwsc, I appreciate that you want to help me, I really do, it's really good of you and I've glad you've found what you need, to tackle the problem and I'm happy with for you that you have such a good support system surrounding you but really, to assume that a person can become happy doing only what other people tell them to is a logic error of the first order.

Okay, and before we get into this, again I want to say thank you for your contribution and for taking the time to reach out, I appreciate it very much. That having been said, I'll give your post the attention and close reading I only hope mine will be given in retrospect.

No, I don't think that, really I don't. I personally think that what I've documented in summary in the post linked to here is essentially just one person that's attacking me and trying to, for her own enjoyment, as she might put it (as per her forum signature) "make mischief". I think her behaviour really is quite disgusting and needs highlighting:
http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/ho...ea-has-been-stolen.287079/page-3#post-1898593

I apologise for the vagueness of that point: by the people I, as you phrase it, "wish 'didn't exist'" I don't in any way mean game developers or programmers or coders. Game development and coding is a skill-set, a craft and a technique and as such is amoral (meaning it is, in and of itself (as a thing) neither good nor bad).

Again, I believe this to be, to use Mwsc's term, "logical error" and one that I can in no way endorse or support as I'm unable to endorse or support the idea that just doing what people tell you in life will make you happy.

Again, for the most part, the majority of people have been very civil in giving me very good and helpful advice and for that I really am very grateful; they aren't people I need to move on from.

I appreciate your depth of feeling on this point but I have to point out that for the most part I am extremely grateful for the advice that's been put forth in this thread. I really am truly grateful to the great many who have contributed to this thread and would again like to state that, once more, here: again, I really am grateful to those people but I feel they're being done a very grave disservice and I mean this with all of my heart and all of my sincerity.

The only person I really have issue with, at this point is Ony, because of her appauling behaviour in imparting advice that could be communicated in one sentence in her sig. Information that's more a statement of her attitude than it is actual advice and which seems to be little more than a pretext for aggression and her aforementioned "mischief"...

It's arguable that Ony could be the poster girl for almost everything that is and could be wrong with women in the gaming industry. She may as well be a self-fulfilling prophecy of misogynistic hatred; a P.R. atrocity both for developers and women in the gaming industry alike.

It's been suggested that I hide behind my depression, a sentiment with which I don't agree, but, in any case I feel it would be remiss of me not to point out that a much much larger and more damaging, more insidious problem is how someone like Ony can hide behind forum noise to play her games and make her "mischief".

In potentially promoting and retroactively justifying negative attitudes towards both developers and women in the gaming industry she's not just something that can be passed off simply as a minor embarrassment; her behaviour is a serious liability that could potentially threaten and the well-being and even the very safety of not just developers and coders but, and especially, females in the gaming industry.

She may appear on the surface to be a good roll-model for the industry but in reality her behaviour is appalling and of a type that could be attributable to an archetypal stereotype of everything that's perceived by the hostile majority (of gamers) out in the world to be wrong with women in the gaming industry. As such, such a person, is almost certainly more damaging to the community, and the industry as a whole, and to all of the people that have to share it with her, than she could ever hope to compensate for with coding skills.

As such she does qualify, to use R.Lindsay's terminology, as someone I "wish 'didn't exist'", not just because her attacks against myself but for the sake of everyone in this community and everyone in the industry.

 

Centigrade: I read through this thread, and I honestly don't think Ony is attacking you. She gave you advice. Whether or not you agree with her advice, you should thank her for that advice and go make your own game.

 

As I said to Ryiah: that's your perspective and your interpretation of the situation and you're welcome to it and I'm not going to try and talk you out of it, but I just don't see it that way.

 

1. Ony isn't attacking you.
2. Go and make your game.
3. Thread locked.

Game development isn't easy. Don't dump your (personal) issues on the forum, it's the wrong place for it. Please do seek aid from professionals not on the internet for depression or other issues.