Official Collaborate will soon be upgraded to Plastic SCM

This sounds great. As a Team Advanced owner I may return to it to test out the Plastic SCM migration and all.

It is a good decision to retire Collaborate and especially allow people to migrate to SCM on the same conditions.

I like this.

 

I'm assuming this is also for people that already migrated to and are now paying for PlasticSCM?

Also, since our Collaborate repo was unable to be moved to PlasticSCM when you initially purchased Plastic (your tool was giving an error, we attempted multiple times, Unity support also attempted multiple times), we started a new one on Plastic, so we now have 2 repos, one on Plastic that we actually use for day to day and I also occasionally open the Collaborate version to access some really old files, or see how things were before some changes or whatever.

What happens now? Do we lose our Collaborate history? We kinda need it.

 

I'm too curious what about Collaborate history.

 

Hopefully all my stuff doesn't get deleted or anything, have a lot of old projects.

 

Just be careful what you wish for, in Plastic SCM realm, all the history count towards the gigabyte usage, not just the heads. So plan accordingly.

 

Also one more question. What if someone don't want to migrate to Plastic SCM and pay 20$ instead of 5$ for 20GB storage. ( 240$ per year instead of 60$ is big difference) (or even much more if Plastic SCM realm, all the history count towards the gigabyte usage as @Lurking-Ninja said) Is there any way to totally resign from collab then? (and for example, keep the project on collab only until the end of the year?)

 

But will they be deleted? If so what is the deadline please?

 

Hi

I have a lifetime Teams Advanced Promotion Subscription with free 50GB in Collaborate. I'm assuming I will continue to have free the 50GB in Plastic SCM since in migration email it says "If your projects exceed 5 GB, you will continue to pay your current rate for storage"

Thanks for confirming

 

Ok, great. Thanks for the answer.

 

Thank you for the clarification.

 

Hi,

We have a small university project which we're using Collab for. The deadline for it is on the 3rd of December, which is around a week before your November 26th date. I just want to clarify this: is our project going to be forcefully transferred to use Plastic SCM? (We just upgraded to Unity 2020.3.21f1.) It would not be beneficial for us since having to learn a new version control system at the final stretch wouldn't be very fun at all.

Thanks!

 

Thanks for reply that sounds great than! How Plastic will be counting storage. Will all history storage count into limit?

 

Hi,

Me and my team have been using Collaborate for a long while now, and have a long history of data we'd like to keep. However, due to a bunch of incompatibilities and issues, we're unable to move from our version 2019.3.7f1 - just a little short of the required version.

Before I start working on extracting our data and searching for a replacement, I feel I have to confirm first - is this migration truly impossible on our front? Is 2019.4.32f1 a hard minimum, or is there flexible room?

Thanks!

 

So basically the price will increase as even with 25 GB project and story of 1-2 years it will be like 50 or more GB. This is important thing to mention then. What then with upgrade if we will migrate project of 20-25GB (actual size) we will lose history?

 

Looks like I'm going to just get all my files and start a fresh project on plastic as it will be cheaper.

 

Do I need of a Plastic SCM account, set 5$ payment for 20GB again or everything will "just work".

 

Hi @marie-unity

I ran the migration today and now Plastic says I only have 25gb available, where my old Collab had 50gb and I explicitly asked about this situation here
https://forum.unity.com/threads/col...upgraded-to-plastic-scm.1188592/#post-7605985

Should I create a support ticket for the missing 25gb to be applied?

Thanks

 

Same question before I migrate.

 

Hi @marie-unity

Thanks, it sounds complicated but I think I understand. Anyway i'll pump it up to 50gb and then get back to you if I'm charged anything.

 

So, I went ahead and migrated my only test project I left in Collab so I can test the migration. It worked. The migration itself. Before the migration I had 25GBytes of storage on my account (came with a promo subscription for Plus when I first subscribed), it is obviously gone. Neither the Unity dashboard shows it nor the Plastic site.
I guess I will stay with the Azure Devops Repos for the time being...

 

@marie-unity We have not been contacted by PlasticSCM support yet as you told us in the previous message. At this point we plan on contacting support mid January, but I'll recap our situation here.

Our situation is as follows:

1. We used to use Collaborate.
2. Months ago, we tried to migrate our Collaborate repo to PlasticSCM. It didn't work.
3. We involved Unity and PlasticSCM support, they could not migrate our history to PlasticSCM either.
4. We decided on the following compromise: Start from scratch in PlasticSCM and then keep Collaborate around in cases I need to check some older history (which I occasionally have).
5. We have been paying for PlasticSCM ever since.

My questions are:

1. Can the Collaborate repo be moved and MERGED with our current plasticscm repo, so we have all our history in one repo, like we wanted from the start? Has anything changed with your migration tool? Last time it was constantly failing for our project and even when people from Unity/Codice attempted to use it.
2. Failing that, can we get an export of the history of the Collaborate repo in some format (git? svn? whatever) so we can keep it around ourselves?
3. We had 40GB in Collaborate, through our Pro licenses and beta promos, will those transfer to Plastic?
4. Will we still keep paying for PlasticSCM?

 

I've done it all now. It was hard to find, under DevOps for some reason, so I had to make a ticket! Thanks for your help.

But now - how can I begin with plastic without any of that old stuff, I want a clean slate. Is it possible to begin using plastic without any baggage so I can maximise my moderator based pro license storage? I probably will pay some day but I'm wanting to be optimal at the moment

I have a good amount of storage I'd like to maximise. So does the chap above. I think it will be fine to just sort a few people out during this initial migration as it did come to a surprise to us.

Thanks for help.

 

So as i understand at latest in Februrary there Collab will not be there anymore and instead Plastic SCM is used in Unity for Version Controll.

I've read that Plastic SCM is setting a Storage Limit differently than Collab but the wording ist not totally clear to me. So what is the difference exactly?

Is there a clear date when Plastic SCM will replace Collab definetly?

 

The difference is explained here
https://forum.unity.com/threads/col...upgraded-to-plastic-scm.1188592/#post-7726323
So as I understood it, it's best to keep your projects in collab before migrating so you can get the max calcaulated storage differential. If you were to clean collab (archive projects) first, it sounds like your differential will be smaller after migrating - so less free storage.

 

this is the sentence i don't get:
(which only take the head of the project into account) and the size of your projects in Plastic SCM (which tracks the full project history) will be deducted.)

what does head ot the project mean in this context?
Just like head in Main Project Owner or something else?

 

In Collab only the last commit is counted to calculate how much GB your project is.

So I have a 20gb project > commit
I delete 5gb of assets in the project (now it's 15gb)> commit

Now Collab counts only the last commit, so 15GB. Even though i can revert, so the other 5gb must be stored somehow.
Also, if I archived this project, Collab counted it as 0GB.

Plastic counts all storage towards your quota, so it's a downside for us I would say, since 25gb on Collab were worth more.

So that how they try to compensate by calculating the actual size of your Collab when migrating and then you'll get a bit of a bonus storage.

 

Too confusing. Why do I need to game the system for "bonus storage" ? fix it, Unity

 

Yeah, that's weird. Or maybe I need to add then remove all linux distros one by one to my Unity project.

 

I migrate to Plastic. FOllowing the guide but point 4 is not happening (using Unity 2020.3.21)

1. If you are on a supported Unity version (see above) the Migration guide will pop up and lead you through the process of converting the local instance of your Collaborate project into a local instance for the Plastic workspace.

And Collaborate is working like nothing happen

 

Maybe try removing the Collaborate Package, afterwards you can open Plastic via "Window > Plastic SCM"

 

Only way to solve the issue was to disable collaborate
After that I had a bunch of new issues.
Ended up downloading the project.

Now everything is working and feels a bit like black magic, Plastic SCM is fast as hell

 

good for you, I wonder that Plastic SCM works at all.
How did you get past this screen?

 

i liked colab because it was simple for the other users. like writers and animators ho didnt know git hub. Because if i am suposed to teach tons of stuf i would rather go with something like git or a cloud storage for those users.

 

I posted a couple of tutorials here, the second one is for artists, it's not complicated at all.

 

A catastrophe, absolute armageddon, I am manager in many Unity Orgs with much projects and I am in serious trouble because of this insane step Unity Technologies took here, turning down Collab completely , I would understand if they would say NEW projects cant be collab anymore ok, but this... this is... I dont find words...

I am concerned, really, for example question: Will similiar happen one day to adressables? Do you have to switch to SCxyz adressables 3rd party system one day no matter if you want or not?

 

"Best version control" wooohoooo strong words, are you ok man?

 

Apparently, despite being a manager, your reading skills need some improvements... I did not make that thread, but please, don't tell that anyone. I am okay, but you seem to be agitated and overly jerky for some reason.

And obviously, you're welcome.

 

yes I am agitated and jerky , Plastic fails since 15 years and is trashing now the Unity Game Services which looked to become something good, but now everyone must fear that at any time Unity Technologies says "service xyz is now done by our twitter follower xyz, join or die" , very dangerous, its negligent to continue using Unity Game Services at all when looking at what happend here

 

You have made your point to Unity. No need to argue with other developers who cannot change things for you.

 

How can I avoid an upgrade to Plastic ?, I dont want Plastic , we use Git with LFS now and a Git editor tool for the artists.

More precise asked, what happens if we uninstall the Version Control Package on projects at some point in time AFTER they was "auto migrated" by your insane auto upgrade to SCM system ?
Will this affect other Unity Game Service Services ? Cloud Build is clear, we already work hard on switching everything to GIT repos as source (probably dont make it in time), my concern is that the Project identity itself in Unity Game Services Dashboard might get bugged and Teams Advanced could not work proper anymore and so on when Collab and SCM is not disabled on all of them before the armageddon day .