Cinematic Image Effects (Pre Release) package

I think that is not the latest AA from the repo.

 

Ah, I think I was on another branch. Will check this out. Thanks!

 

I can confirm this new one does not have the black issues.

What can be done about ghosting?

 

Definitely would be a nice addition. Amplify Motion and SMAA would be a perfect combination if it weren't for the artefacts of Temporar AA ghosting. Having a more integrated and native solution would make it an ideal result.

 

Hey guys ... sorry for the newb question but I'm having a bit of trouble with Tonemapping effects. I'm using scripting to add a TonemappingColorGrading script on my main camera. However, when I then try to enable the "ColorGrading" boolean or modify the variables for Shadows, Midtones and Highlights via scripting ... I get a compiler error saying I can't modify those values directly and that I should store them in a temporary variable. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? All I want to do is add it to my main camera, enable Color Grading and modify the colours and I'd rather not do this manually for every level in my existing game.

 

How about making your camera a prefab that is reused in all the levels?

 

I could do that but I'd rather not right now. I'd have to go ahead and make changes to every existing level and I'd rather not. I figure there must be a way to do this via scripting.

 

Are you by any chance modifying and assigning r, g and b values of the color directly instead of creating a temporary Color variable and assigning it as a whole?

 

I think I am ... strangely enough, I did try setting a temporary value. However, I can't even change the overall boolean that decides whether ColorGrading is on or not. Here's my code, can you tell me what I'm doing wrong?

Code (CSharp):

1. TonemappingColorGradingtoneMapEffect=mainCam.gameObject.AddComponent<TonemappingColorGrading>();
2.  
3. toneMapEffect.colorGrading.enabled=true;
4.  

Even the above gives an error message that I should be storing the value in a temporary variable rather than modifying colorGrading.enabled directly. If that's what I need to do, can you explain how to do so?

 

I don't have this installed yet, but I just skimmed through the source in the repository and it looks like colorGrading is a struct, so you can't just set enabled to true. You need to create a temporary variable of type ColorGradingSettings, or whatever the type of .colorGrading is, set all it's properties like colors, enabled, etc. and then assign that temp variable to toneMapEffect.colorGrading.

 

Thanks so much ... that's what I was missing. Appreciate the help!

 

Hi guys ! We have an issue on the latest Depth of field (taken from the repo) with latest version of Unity, maybe you have encountered this issue as well.
It seems that transparent stuff will be blurred depending on their background, if the background should be blurred, particles for example will be too. Do you know how to fix that?

Here's an example on our freshly game jam prototype:



As you can see, particles are blurry while the statue is not, even if particles are at the same distance from the camera.

Thanks !

 

Transparent shaders don't write to the depth buffer and this kind of DOF effect uses the depth buffer to decide how the blur is applied. There is no way to fix this on the side of the DOF. I believe there is also no feasible way to solve it with the transparent shaders either.

For a menu screen, just fake it by blurring the background separately and blending it together somehow.

 

thanks for this quick answer Martin_H, I don't know if the legacy DoF is having the same issue as the new one.
We will probably find a way around by faking it or changing the layout of the scene.

Thanks again !

 

Hi,

One concern I have is with the colour grading. Basically, it only supports one LUT, unless of course it allows changing the properties without a performance loss, but as I understand it, dragging those sliders and widgets around is actually generating textures on the fly?

If it is generating textures, this component needs to be able to save the luts and we will need dual lut support so that moodboxes can be done. If not, then I guess I could blit one lut over another at runtime. But would like to know what plans you guys have first before jumping the gun, thanks!

 

isn't that how it works with the current LUT CC from standard image effect?

 

WOW OK then that is all we need to do - mess with the sliders / wheels at runtime! That is sexy. It'd be kind of nice to snapshot settings in the editor then lerp to them. I'm up for coding this but any advice what the best approach would be? @Chman and @Tim C

Thanks guys!

 

Someone coded something like that for scion. Maybe he could extend that tool? I'd imagine it'd be useful for him too to extend the userbase of the asset to people beyond those owning scion. Actually it seems he's already going in that direction with a second asset. You might want to have a look at these:
http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/new-extension-for-scion.376990/
http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/wip-zone-testers-needed.380426/

 

Seems perfect, thanks for working it all out so we don't have to

 

Are there any example pre-made textures that can be plugged into the texture slot for LUT on the 'Tonemapping Color Grading' script?
The ones that I have tried create some rather psychedelic colors.

 

There's a template for the LUT in the latest repo

 

My point was only that Unity has been more 'mobile focused' historically than something like Unreal, or the CyrEngine...

I'm not saying Unity cant be used to create something like 'Witcher 3' or whatever, just that it got its place in the market by saying 'We have a game platform that you can develop on, that will enable you to deliver to ALL platforms (and by that we mean mobile)'

When I say the clue is in the name, it is. The point of Unity is that you can make a game with Unity and it will work on platforms such as PC and iOS... Ok other engines are catching up on this but it was Unity that started the trend, surely?

Anyway lets not get in to an argument about it...

 

I suppose what I was hoping was that SSRR might mean that we could have reflections on mobile that might not totally kill performance. I appreciate that you cannot make a mountain out of a pea, but I have just heard so much about how amazing SSRR is that I thought it might just be possible that mobile might now be able to have some kind of real time reflections...

 

It's unfortunate, but yeah, no dice. Compare mobile CPU and GPU performance with PCs, ballpark a year with equivalent PC tech and check the visuals in the games back then. Most devices aren't even on a level that can run HL2-heavy experiences yet, so something more modern like deferred rendering or SSRR is completely out of question for anything but extremely niche devices like Tegra X1 based tablets. Some lightweight techniques are adopted on poorly performing platforms ahead of the curve, yes - for example, with few compromises, modern HDR rendering and tonemapping/color grading can be used on mobile even though they became popular on PC at quite a bit later point, but that doesn't mean that every modern technique can run on mobile platforms.

 

@Chman You're the developer of Chromatica Studio and now you've apparently been hired by Unity and are also the developer of the new built-in color grading feature. Is there a conflict of interest there?

Is it overly skeptical of me to think that there's no way you would make the built-in feature as good as your commercial asset? Or to put it another way, is it naive of me to hope you'll make the built-in feature as good or better than your commercial asset? I know the implications of the asset store have been discussed before, but I've never seen such an easily comparable example as this before. I mean, unless the built-in color grading is just as good as Chromatic Studio would it not be easy for us to say that you're actively holding back features in favor of your own commercial asset seeing as we know you can do better? And on the other hand, if you do in fact put everything into the built-in color grading then there's no point in Chromatica Studio anymore.

What's Unity's stance on something like this?

 

@Chman doesn't strike me as someone who is giving less than 100% of commitment, ever. The situation sure is kind of weird, but I have no doubt that good things will come from him being hired by UT. My first thought was that they should have just bought all the rights to his assets from him and include those for free and have him work on further improvements. But I guess that would have angered everyone who has bought them so far. I've bought Colorful FX the last time it was on sale and I'd recommend it. For his work at UT imho it would make the most sense to produce things that so far are not covered by assets (temporal AA etc.) and things that really should have been included in the free post effects long ago. Buying stuff from the asset store will always be part of the Unity experience I guess, and in a way that is exactly the "don't make us pay for things that we don't need"-approach that people often demand to see.

 

If you think the new one is better I'd think deprecating the old one from the store and open sourcing it makes the most sense. People who own it can still access the source if they need it and noobs looking for something like this will look first on the assetstore I guess.

 

Thank you for your honest and certainly uplifting answer.

It will be cool to for once have a best in slot image effect come from Unity rather than a third party on the Asset Store.

 

That would be me
I just submitted Zone Controller Pro to the asset store for review yesterday which works with any unity component generically to allow you to control them at runtime.
Here are some examples:

Here is a tutorial:

Hopefully it will be reviewed and released this week.

 

I would just say that Chman does not seem like the type of person that would hold back. I have had the opportunity to talk with him offline and he's a very honorable person. His interests are making the best solutions.

 

Come on guys. . . have faith in him

 

I don't ask when, but will there be studies of auto-exposure (eye adaptation) during that R&D or scenes in Unity will still be done the old artistic way of all lights on the same exposure? I don't know how it was with Chromatica Studio

 

@Chman I noticed that the new merged FXAA / SMAA seems to have double vision or ghosting artefacts when the camera turns or there's lateral motion. It's actually quite pronounced for me, wondering why it happens- is it an artefact of the temporal approach used? AA is first on the component stack and it's deferred.

 

Oh i thought i was doing something wrong on the AA configuration. so it also happened on everybody else?

 

It's fine when Temporal is turned off. I guess it's a flaw of the technique currently used. It's not visible when you have static scenes, or in/out motion.

It's very visible with a 3rd person game and chase cam, especially when the character runs to the side, causing camera to turn to follow. If this is as good as it gets I suppose I could disable temporal whenever rotation or panning goes on.

 

They need proper motion vectors to counteract that which I'm guessing they haven't implemented yet.

 

I'm going to go out on a limb and imagine that this involves altering Unity's shader system so it's non trivial and depends on other people? Not to worry, I think you guys have done a bang up job on post so far!

 

Keep getting this error:
NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
UnityStandardAssets.CinematicEffects.ScreenSpaceReflection.get_shader () (at Assets/Standard Assets/Effects/CinematicEffects(BETA)/ScreenSpaceReflection/ScreenSpaceReflection.cs:364)

 

Thanks for the quick reponse. Started a fresh project and ran the fetcher. Still getting:

Assets/Standard Assets/Effects/CinematicEffects(BETA)/DepthOfField/DepthOfField.cs(149,14): error CS1729: The type `UnityEngine.SpaceAttribute' does not contain a constructor that takes `0' arguments

GTX 750Ti Unity 5.1 1p3f Windows 7 16gb ram

Need to install GTX970 and Unity 5.3

Any ideas which Nvidia driver would be compatible for the Dk2?

 

Damn. . . . i never realize that this button is exist all this time. Usefull stuff man.......no more moving back n forth to PS. . .

 

There is an export, is there an import?
Also, I like how Amplify Color does it, it sends a screenshot from one of your game cameras with the LUT texture in top-left corner directly to Photoshop. You do all color grading you want in there on your camera screen, and then Amplify Color automatically crops the LUT texture from the screenshot and reads it back and saves it in your project folder.

 

@Chman btw there's still some color banding if using the new LUT/color correction any way to reduce it? this is not happened when using the old color correction LUT