BuildR 2.0 - Create buildings within Unity

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Just noticed v1 has been depreciated and now there is no upgrade path except paying full price

 

It was on sale

 

just not as cheap as the upgrade used to be from v1 to 2. Not in a position to need it at the moment, but when/if I do, I don't relish the idea of paying full price again.

 

I'm sorry you feel that way Blacksun. BuildR 2 has been worked on in my spare time for over 2 years and I had a generous upgrade path for the first year it was published. I believe that sufficient progress and development was made on version 2 to stand it apart from the initial version of BuildR which was released over 5 years ago.

 

I´m in the same situation as @blacksun666, and noticed that I can upgrade if needed(but didn´t noticed that its time-limited).
But generally this deprecated assets in my downloads, which I paid for at some point(and slowly turning my downloads red), are disgusting!
And I will avoid developers, which deprecate their assets.

 

You must realise that an asset cannot be supported forever. I think the three-four year time line for updating/developing and supporting an asset is very generous and essentially is the result of the Asset Store not offering publishers the option to go with subscription based sales.

 

I can only think on 2 authors with this problem who released a second version not justified for a Unity engine change: you and DevDog (Opsive is coming), but Devdog stated he is not going to ask for updates anymore (reviews hurt), now he is developing more tools and complementary assets... maybe he already noticed he can't make a living with 2 assets.
IMHO, nobody is going to say nothing if you release Genesis as a third asset, sell a subset of funcionality as runtime editor (like Octave3d author), maybe recover Track BuildR as a city generator...

Yes, we can understand that, some authors just went away with unfinished products, but they don't sell a second version. This is not "finishing support", you never abandoned the product, this is asking more money.

 

Last sale I got Archimatix and I have to say: I don't care if they ask for upgrades in the future, the asset currently works, not obvious bugs like every download I made of past BuildR, sure, it takes more work but the flexibility pays off.
OPRA is a interesting tool too, just not finished and development is slow.

 

How long do you plan to support buildr2 and are you planning on making buildr3 any time soon?

 

There are absolutely no plans for BuildR 3 at the moment.
The time between 1 and 2 was 5 years so you have at least another 3-4 years if I had some kind of planned lifecycle (which I don't)
BuildR 2 is under a bit of a re-write at the moment for the 2018+ versions of Unity. There are some underlying code architecture issues I want to solve which can only be done with changing a lot of under the hood stuff
But there we go. There is development on it at the moment - just nothing exciting or visible...

 

Hi Jasper!
Your asset is very promising! Unfortunately thanks to the demo i found out that on Mac with Unity 2017.2 is not working: whatever you are trying to build, once you click (left, middle or right) with the mouse nothing happens, maybe it’s an old build? Thanks

 

The demo is in need of updating!
I'll check out BuildR on my MBP later today to see if there are issues...

 

Is that possible to change a wall uv tile? Don't want to change my material tiles.

 

Hi Crossway. Not sure what you mean exactly. In BuildR, textures/materials are wrapped into a custom asset called a BuildR Surface. The Surface contains the link to the material along with whether the texture should be tiled, or repeated a specified number of times. It also defines the world size of the texture, so that it can be applied to geometry correctly.
There currently is no way to define at what UV the building will generate at. From the base point zero, it starts at 0,0.
Hope that answers your question.

 

Hello

I have some problems i use BuildR2 with Real World Terrain.

It works good only some problems

when i use a facade where at ground is door and 1st floor 2 windows facade is not 5x2 tiles that door is middle
but whe house is 6x2 tiles the dor is not middle at different setting the windows can be fixed but door never gets middle.

also is there a way to set 1 facade good matching all 4 house building sides because Real World Terrain can use only 1 facade .

i can upload some screenshots but need a good fix because they get automatic generated with set roof and facade and are to much to fix all manualy.

also at roof the problem when set 2 gable one at front one at back eg gable 1 and gable 3 at roof the texture is not matching an looks bad . can send screen.

also is there a way use a structured roof texture for real look / better look ?

also interior not working when click generate interior it not works at regenerate building. nothing is shown also not when build interior self it is away when go out of building .


think its all atm.

Thank you for help.


Regards

 

Hi GamePyro,
Could you send me the screenshots? Even in email or here (pm or reply(
Then I can get a good idea of how to get a solution for you.
Is the generate interior button part of the RWT plugin? Do you have a link to these link scripts so I can have a go at reproducing? Also, what version Unity are you on?
Thanks!
Jasper

 

thanks yes i will send you:

And no generate interior button / checkbox is in your BuildR2 Plugin settings at the house:


Also are there good way make similar houses like this in / with BUildR2
and randomly generate them then:

https://elements.envato.com/shale-country-house-THXZWH
https://elements.envato.com/shale-style-house-RM7ZUZ
https://elements.envato.com/contemporary-house-with-roof-basin-H2YU3X
https://elements.envato.com/modern-house-with-grass-roof-NLGA82
(Outdated but if a option for something like that also very great )


Or better that we can use other assets / modular kits with buildr2 to generate houses / building that look more realistic than with buildr2 now :


like this modular kits :

https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/3d/environments/urban/housekits-family-homes-v1-0-122563

https://assetstore.unity.com/packag.../suburb-neighborhood-house-pack-modular-72712




Also House in Terrain / Hills Shape / Flatten like EasyRoads3D and R.A.M River Auto Material can to would be great ?

And at BuildR2 is there a way that the terrain will be flatted / shaped like at ER3D for the houses at the Hills / Mountain etc.

And you see the problems i already wrote about all house side windows and door should. you see often at every wall with on 1 grid also show a door.

Here also screeshot showing above and below also the before talked problems about Gable Roof etc and the above Hills mountain problems:

https://i.gyazo.com/41de42fb53c8c05ecd60d2222511d861.png

https://i.gyazo.com/7997378fbc104d1f18bc18bea414bb70.jpg

https://i.gyazo.com/05e964b59f0e0690dfd8cc1cfd587d96.jpg




Regards

 

? I sended you email and here .

Since 5 August i bought it waiting at answers or help.

Refund also not work anymore.


Great

Thank you

 

Hi GamePyro,
I'm still working on a fix for that issue you have.
The first point you contacted me was here on 27th August - I didn't receive anything on the 5th.
I'll do my best to work out what's going on there...

 

Should i wrote you at PM ?

You not answered the other questions ;(

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thanks yes i will send you:

And no generate interior button / checkbox is in your BuildR2 Plugin settings at the house:


Also are there good way make similar houses like this in / with BUildR2
and randomly generate them then:

https://elements.envato.com/shale-country-house-THXZWH
https://elements.envato.com/shale-style-house-RM7ZUZ
https://elements.envato.com/contemporary-house-with-roof-basin-H2YU3X
https://elements.envato.com/modern-house-with-grass-roof-NLGA82
(Outdated but if a option for something like that also very great )


Or better that we can use other assets / modular kits with buildr2 to generate houses / building that look more realistic than with buildr2 now :


like this modular kits :

https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/3d/environments/urban/housekits-family-homes-v1-0-122563

https://assetstore.unity.com/packag.../suburb-neighborhood-house-pack-modular-72712




Also House in Terrain / Hills Shape / Flatten like EasyRoads3D and R.A.M River Auto Material can to would be great ?

And at BuildR2 is there a way that the terrain will be flatted / shaped like at ER3D for the houses at the Hills / Mountain etc.

And you see the problems i already wrote about all house side windows and door should. you see often at every wall with on 1 grid also show a door.

Here also screeshot showing above and below also the before talked problems about Gable Roof etc and the above Hills mountain problems:

https://i.gyazo.com/41de42fb53c8c05ecd60d2222511d861.png

https://i.gyazo.com/7997378fbc104d1f18bc18bea414bb70.jpg

https://i.gyazo.com/05e964b59f0e0690dfd8cc1cfd587d96.jpg




Regards



##

 

Hi GamePyro,
The examples you send are complex and a lot of it is very doable in BuildR - some of it is not. (recesses in those examples are not really supported in a strong way with buildr) I'm not sure how you would fare with the modular kits. From screenshots provided on their store page - it doesn't look possible either - but I don't know 100%.
BuildR doesn't control terrains and I have no plans to support Unity terrains at the moment.

 

So no way use the Modular Asstes from Unity Asset Store ?


And you not add Unity Terains ?




Also now ways to make them look more like this Generator ?

https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/content/99078

https://forum.unity.com/threads/rel...rocedural-and-architectural-generator.504965/



Because at BuildR2 the Roof also Piutched and Gabled not looking real also the Houses not are there waay to make them look mor elike ROom Architect or like this:

Or better that we can use other assets / modular kits with buildr2 to generate houses / building that look more realistic than with buildr2 now :


like this modular kits :

https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/3d/environments/urban/housekits-family-homes-v1-0-122563

https://assetstore.unity.com/packag.../suburb-neighborhood-house-pack-modular-72712






And no way of Refund BuildR2 ? Because so its now useless

 

So BuildR is currently a system setup to create it's own modules and generate buildings from that. There are no set standard in the industry on how building modules should be constructed so a system that could account for all the cases would be very expensive to produce.
I don't support terrains as they are a pain to work with.
From the examples I provide in my package it should be very obvious that you could produce results like the Room Architect asset. Unless you have specific ideas of what you want - I have no idea what your roof issues are. BuildR supports flat, pitched, gabled and mansard roofs.

 

Roof pitched and gabled look at the examples i send . at buildr2 the roofs gabled look not goot or real. or look at room architect roof pitched looks real.

 

This asset says "No Grid make buildings as freely as you want" Does that mean there is no grid available at all, or its optional? I prefer using grid.

Also is there an option to see room dimension sizes in feet or meters?

 

Is this still being developed?

 

Yes, he'll respond to you sooner if you reach out to him via eMail with your invoice number.

He responded to my eMail on Dec 2018 regarding "Error CS0619: 'ProceduralMaterial' is obsolete: 'Built-in support for Substance Designer materials has been removed from Unity." and stated he was looking into it.

ATTN: @jasperstocker, looking forward to your future Unity compatibility updates! Thanks in advance.

 

Hi all,
Sorry I've not been around here much. I'm still working on BuildR but it's been a very large re-write to get it into a position I want to take it forward on. There should be a new version released in the coming months.
I'm planning on splitting out the runtime city generation aspect from BuildR2 into a new package, however anyone with BuildR2 will not have to purchase anything new. Not for "years" as it stands.

 

Wow that’s amazing news thanks for the peace of mind, sounds like it’s gonna be an incredible upgrade! Very excited to hear of its progression.

 

On unity 2018.3.6
Assets\BuildR2\Internal\Scripts\Utils\AssetCreator.cs(15,22): error CS0234: The type or namespace name 'Remoting' does not exist in the namespace 'System.Runtime' (are you missing an assembly reference?)

EDIT: Fixed changing to net 4.x

 

Ah - it's the old Visual Studio adding my typos into the import statements.
It'll be gone later today... I have another little fix for that class as it is

 

@jasperstocker It looks like doors for connecting interior rooms don't always tunnel all the way through. As in, in one room it looks like a door and I can pass through with the Standard Assets FPS controller, but when I turn around there's a solid wall and no return.

 

Make sure that the two rooms share a wall (not just parallel walls but both have the same two corner points) so that the calculation can happen...

 

How can I combine volumes at runtime? I am generating rooms and buildings decently well at runtime, but I need to be able to cut out portions of building. As it stands it doesn't seem like courtyards can be generated.

 

You can't combine volumes at runtime but I can add that into the next version...
The current method of courtyard generation is to have a volume connect to itself. I'm working on something more flexible in the new version...

 

Is it possible to connect a volume to itself at runtime? or is there currently no way to have cut out shapes in runtime buildings?

 

As long as two points on one part of the foorprint shape match two other points then it should work...

 

Just wanted to update everyone - I'm still working on the big update to BuildR.
It's going to be all in one and I'm working on integrating the editor into the new system. making lots of changes and tweaks along the way. I've added holes to building volumes - so you can go somewhat crazy with courtyards in the next release. There are still some issues with it but for flat and hipped roofs it works now.
Can't give a time for when it's done but I'm getting closer to a release now - I have Interiors to work on next.
Now is a great time to feedback anything you want, or hate(!) in BuildR! It's shaping up to be great

 

Jasper, I cannot select room, edges, nothing. I am using unity version 2018.3.12f1.
I could not create two rooms that share the same wall because I cannot select them. Also it does not appear in the inspector. I don't believe an asset with so many stars would give me such a headache, I believe I am doing something wrong. I really want to use your asset. Please help me. Also I sent an email to you with some console errors I got, in editor and in play mode.

Is there any special configuration I need to do in the grid, snap, or any other thing?

Thanks!

 

I was having trouble with that earlier. It seems that restarting gave me some different functionality. Now I'm having trouble getting any snapping to happen, my rooms overlap and I don't have the pixel perfection to make them match the walls. Is there something I'm missing here?

 

Reinstallation of BuildR2 latest version & rebuild of .csproj assemblies via Visual Studio worked for my workflow however your mileage may vary.

Helpful Release Notes for your convenience...

 

In the BuildR Options main tab, there should be under the BuildR Settings, a checkbox for snapping. You should also be able to toggle it by holding the shift key.

 

I am really looking forward to the next version. Any possibility of giving a rough release window?

 

Thanks. I'm not sure on release window. I have a deadline at the moment I'm running against so I've not had much time in the last fortnight. I have the new editor working on exteriors along with new roof generation and the ability to just place holes in volumes. That's all pretty much done. The last bit is going to be updating interiors which I'm not planning on any major changed to the initial release other than to rework the UX and UI.
I can't imagine it would be before August though.

 

Hi @jasperstocker,
I am looking into generating cities from openstreetmap data. Is there any kind of api support for buildr2? I would want to do stuff like: Create the volume from a list of points, set the wall style, retrieve a list of available wall styles etc.
I do not care about the interior of the buildings, so I do not need any access to that part of the asset.

Kind regards,
Christian

 

Still in Planning Phase and in experimental Development but here is a thread that might interest you
https://forum.unity.com/threads/bet...cedural-city-generation-from-map-data.514677/

 

BuildR Update

Dear all. I'm really happy to say that I'm close to a release candidate for the new free version 3 of BuildR. By the end of the year I want to seek out some beta testing help so that I can get some feedback and testing done. I aim to fully release this new version to the store on our 6th birthday in March.

The new version is called BuildR Cities in recognition that the new system is capable of generating huge cities. I've written a multithreaded engine that allows building geometry to be processed off of the main thread. This means the framerate of the game will be almost unaffected by BuildR streaming in new geometry.

I'll also be introducing other elements like roads and outdoor space post release. This will be in addition to further development on interiors and exteriors of the buildings.

There has been significant change to the code base so I have no plans to support BuildR 2 buildings in 3. That time I plan on using for further development of things in BuildR 3, however, I'm open to this feature if there is enough demand.

As always I'm here to try to answer your questions and take on board feedback.
Thanks for reading.
Jasper

 

Hi Jasper, can you confirm BuildR3 Cities is free update as per your Asset reply to customer? I have Buildr2 in basket to buy :

Reply from publisher:
replied 2 months ago
This will be fixed in the massive free update incoming to BuildR

Regards

Morpheus

 

Aye - BuildR3 is a free update.