Boycott kickstarter

I am no longer going to support any kickstarter project as long as this anti-white works there. I suggest you dont either. Its sad because i was just supporting a kickstarter campaign.
http://twitchy.com/2014/11/28/serio...ter-community-manager-thinks-of-white-people/

 

career limiting tweet that one.

 

It doesn't seem important to me that she's racist or not. Everybody's got ridiculous prejudices of some kind. Hopefully it will be educational for her to know that she's racist, and she'll open her mind.

 

Who gives a damn about it. Community manager has nothing to do with your actual projects.

If she had higher power...say - website admin and would remove "specific" campaigns then I wouldn't bother my campaign.

All she did was saying that white people are bad. I don't care.


If one of our forum mods was racist I would still use Unity.

 

I don't think people should be representing kickstarter as "racist" just because one employee has a certain view (good or bad)... We should be mad at her, not at kickstarter as a whole.

Chris Barnhart had said
"Look, @kickstarter. Do y'all hate white people or not? Just tell us so we can look for alternatives."

I just think some people are just so sensitive...

 

Stupid people need to stop using Twitter.

 

Yeah. Posting crazy remarks on Twitter for the whole world to see is going to cause some people a lot of trouble.

 

This is part of a precedent. It is OK to racist wise trash white folks but not anybody else if yer white. I think this may be because white folks are not generally racist..a worldwide survey says they are the least racist of all the races...and those indulging themselves in such fantasy as all white people are bad are just mouthy little brats without half a wit. If they hate white folks them get rid of the car and TV and all those other things white folks invented. Let them be pure..heh.. The bitch will get her ass twitter slammed. Folks ain't putting up with this S*** no more. I had some lowlife try to ask me for money and I ignored him. He then started cussing at me and followed me. I stopped to talk with one of my black pals and this clown came up trying to get into a fight with me..and my buddy told him to hit the road. The clown responded with "You sticking up for this cracker?".. My buddy..about 14 inches shorter and 100 pounds less than this bully called him a racist and was gonna beat his ass down. Big bully was afraid. I was LOL..Only idiots and simpletons subscribe to racism.. Everybody with half a brain and some real world knowledge know it takes all types and they come in all colors and shapes and sizes. Ya want the measure of a man or woman..talk with them..can't judge a book and all that jazz. Now if the KS bitch had something to say about gays or blacks..oh the S***storm that would occur.. Why is that Who sets this crap up? and why?

 

We often forgot that Racism is not exclusive to white people, and this should be taken just as seriously as a white person being racist to an African American person or Asian American, etc...

Racism should not be tolerated on any level! :|

(She should be removed and the company should release a statement, but I don't want to condemn an entire company for the act of one, unless they do nothing!!)

 

I would not stop using Kickstarter because of it, either. Though it's interesting - someone from marketing once told me a phrase that really stuck to me: "Be careful who you hire because every employee is also a salesman representing the company." I can completely understand how she will represent Kickstarter as a company to many people even though she actually represents mostly herself.

 

Everything you say can and will be used against you in the Court of the Internet. Even if you say something stupid by mistake. Even if you regret saying it. Even if you learn a lesson from it. Even if you apologize. Oh well.

I can't begin to imagine how embarrased I would be today if some of the stupid moronic stuff I'd said in my 20s, and yes, in my 30s, was still out there now, immortalized in print. Yikes. I'm in my 40s and I shudder to think of how I'll look back on things I say today.

The Internet seems to turn everyone into a righteous divine being who can do no wrong. We jump all over those who make mistakes, as if making mistakes (and hopefully learning from them) isn't a core part of our humanity. Cast the first stone if you must, or the 1000th, or the 100000th. Does it fulfill you?

We live in the age of instant gratification. Everything is getting faster and faster, and easier to get. Everything seems instant except for one important thing we all need from time to time: forgiveness.

 

She might not think she has done anything wrong. Her comments sound very sjw'y. It is a current trend to redefine racism (or rather taken on certain definitions of racism from strands of sociology) such that many people now believe it's actually impossible for them to be racist no matter what they say or do, because they are not the majority power (the whole racism = prejudice + power deal). It's also trendy to hate 'white people', especially privileged cis-hetero white men, but in my opinion this is a somewhat reductive response to genuine concerns.

I agree with 'who cares what she thinks'. People are leaning on kickstarter because she and they are pawns in the ongoing social shift we see happening right now, especially in gaming. But unless kickstarter comes out and says 'we agree', threads like this one (calling to boycott kickstarter) are just unnecessary escalation. Take it to TiA if you want a receptive audience.

I think it will be a miracle if this thread doesn't end up locked

 

That's not true. Some people are guided by reason, tolerance and cultural empathy.

 

I dont think thats completely true, I think white ppl are more concious of it because for generations white ppl probably have been the most racist, and its frowned upon these days... old ppl are still generally quite racist.

This pretty much sums it up these days..

 

I want my 3 minutes back

 

Old people have alot of life experience. Birds of a feather and all that is quite a natural cultural thing. So waht oif folks want to live with their own kind.. whatever that is besides race. (think artisan communities for example or hippie communes) White people have not been generally racist. If you study real history it shows that the upper crust promote the plebians to go at each others throats so they don't have to be hanging from the town square lamppost or drawn and quartered for the equivalent of Saturday Night Wrasslin' entertainment for the locals.. Check the latest Ferguson psy-op for an example. Like the whole thing about how white folks decimated the Indian population and built America. The native american population were on a huge decline due to diseases thay had no natural cures for and drought/starvation. The roads and farmlands and settlement areas are not hewn out of raw brush and timber by tough as nails white dudes. They have been there for centuries before Euros came. Or how white folks were the biggest slavers. Not true and more whites were enslaved than blacks and commanded alot less money at the slaver auctions. The biggest slavers in the Carolinas were black landholders.

Nice Image.. I am proud to be of the heritage I am. We, collectively, brought the world many things which were a part of the discontinuation of a need of a slave. My son learned nothing about European culture in 12 years at school. But every year for a month had to learn about Martin Luther King and feel guilt for being born as he was... Whose the racist in this scenario. Why couldn't my son get an education on where his blood came from?? It was common in my day to know the names of all the explorers and royal houses that had an impact on the shape of the world today. Not that I didn't fill this lame gap in the education structure as I had always been a history buff.

 

Racism < Knowledge

I'm racist. I have read history books, studied foreign cultures. I love some cultures, others I would eliminate from the face of planet Earth. I love feudal Japanese Samurai culture, I'm repulsed by Fijian cannibals. Fiji is now a popular tourist destination with a population that still spiritually reveres cannibalism. I wouldn't live near that race of people. The Japanese, on other hand, are an industrious, hard-working people with an incomprehensibly low crime rate for their population density.

Am I racist because of my knowledge of facts? Or are the facts racist?

To be racist against Asians... which asians? Muslim asians? Buddhist asians? The kung fu fighting asians or the karate asians? The ones who fought with the US in WW2? Jungle dwellers? Or the high IQ, civilized south koreans who provide high speed internet to all it's citizens?

See? It's not racism I have a problem with, it's ignorance. Don't tell me how bad "white people" are. Be specific. Which white people? Europeans or Americans, or South Africans... or Australians? Or kiwis? Or the red haired ones like in Highlander?

You can be racist if you're educated enough, because you're probably not also an ignorant bigot. You can be racist and have the respect of people you're racist against and respect them, as well. It's called being a decent human being instead of an ignorant scumbag.

Everybody's Racist(tm)

 

On the one hand I agree with you but on the other I'm white and I seriously don't care what people think of me so long as it doesn't restrict me unfairly or entice violence against me.

 

As a person of mixed ethnic background who does not identify with any historical cultures, I find the entire race issue to be a disappointing glaring example of human laziness and ignorance. How can you be racist against somebody if you can't even properly identify what that person's racial heritage is? All people do is look at the color of your skin the clothes you wear the way you talk and say I don't like you. Personally I could really care less what a person like that thinks because if it wasn't for modern society providing protection and security for them they wouldn't even be surviving being that stupid. So I consider this ignorant racism to be a symptom of a world but it's far too easy to survive in. They pose no threat to anyone as long as there's something on TV anyway, so to me the whole thing is a non issue. That said, I won't even hesitate to call people as dumb as this lady on their BS in front of as many people as possible. However, I find that combating people accusing people of being racist by calling them racist to be fire fighting with gasoline. Not exactly respectable behavior.

 

As a "Heinz 57" dude, I'm offended that she hates the white in me, and I'm disgusted that she makes us asians look bad.
I get to play multiple race cards.

But yeah, I agree with this:

 

Thats cool you feel that way, but if left unchecked things will escalate to a point where they will effect you. Equality means being good to everyone!

And if you want to judge someone judge them for their personalty not shallow external factors!

 

No, that's not true at all. People who are smarter than you and everybody else, people who don't think in terms of race, control everything because they're self aware. For example, people who see things at that level love it when you go around thinking that you're doing the world a service by pointing out racial divisions. You're busying yourself thinking about things that are not even relevant. If racial tensions ever do get out of control, we have tanks, humvees and armored vehicles and pepper spray cannons and fire hoses and automatic paintball guns that fire mace pellets and electrified riot shields... So yeah, it's really not in anyone's benefit for you to "be a racial defender". You're just strengthening the power of the ignorance that empowers the system that feeds off of the ignorance.

I know this goes 18 miles over most heads though.

As soon as a mod sees this thread is it's closed, fyi.

In fact, I know a spell to summon one... let's try...

DARK POMERANIAN FROM THE ABYSS
I summon... @superpig!!

 

It definitely seems like the world is trying real hard to be anti-racist to everyone that isnt white. I dont really care tbh, we're all pink on the inside! ha

If anything, im languag-ist (if there's such a thing). If I cant talk to someone in English, I generally wont care to get to know them or have any kind of relationship with them, which can be perceived as being racist, but meh. I only speak one language, if you dont speak the same language as me, we dont have anything in common (well, we might, but im not going to give you the time of day to find out because we cant talk about it).

 

@ Misterselmo I can't tell if your being serious or not lol - but either way you frighten me :-O

 

That feeling, the one that encourages you to "out" people who are "frightening", that one is called "Xe-no-pho-bi-a". That's just a natural human instinct, but you've been conditioned to despise people of other races using this as a "framework", if you will. It's the cornerstone of all government power, the fulcrum point of propoganda. I'd ask you if you ever read Brave New World, but there's no sense in it. Anyways, people lacking a certain degree of self-awareness will always tend to identify with those who look the same as them. It's simple, reliable and evolutionarily sound... a good general rule-of-thumb for survival. But so is living in a cave and pounding your chest, waving a weapon when anything unfamiliar comes near. In other words, bigotry and racial group-think are for cave dwellers. And when cave dwellers gather to do cave man level savagery, they're met with 21st century non-lethal control methods. Which, when you think about how much effort non-lethal methods were to invent and put into practice, this alone proves that at least some of the human race has evolved.

 

18 miles above, a whooshing sound could barely be heard.

 

So I'll continue, boycotting something is also knuckle-dragging behavior. You should instead shame this person immensely by no longer regarding her as a person who may be taken seriously. Everything she says will always be tainted, anyway. But grabbing the pitch forks and shouting, "Witch!"... eeeeyyyeah. Not so much. And while we're at it, how about don't burn the whole "village" down for harboring a "witch". Is any of this connecting?

 

As will anything anyone says, in the history of ever.

Is that what it sounds like up there?

 

Nihilism will always be rejected by anyone to ascribes to rationalism, everything ever will not be tainted. It's always possible to achieve reform but I'm really curious what external forces have led her to make these outlandish racist statements. If she can provide any explanation and then renounce the statements I would forgive her. As you might imagine I've made some pretty outrageous statement myself at the past and it's a lot of things that I really had to deal with internally. If I was confronted on some of the hateful things I said when I was younger I would be able to explain the environment to produce that sort of thinking without feeling of guilt whatsoever.

 

Equality means treating everyone as equals. Something our own governments, at least in the United States, do not encourage as can be seen by how they give tax breaks to women and minority groups when they start their own businesses. Or when a man claims to have been raped and how that is treated so differently than when a woman claims it.

 

Perspective is everything.

 

Racism is pathetically ignorant no matter who the source is or what race it's directed towards.

Seeing those tweets from a Kickstarter employee doesn't make want to avoid the company because I'm personally offended (I'm not). It does, however, make me wary of a company that would hire and continue to employ a freaking community manager who is ignorant enough to be racist and also dumb enough to spout those opinions on social media.

 

Here, let me fix that for you...

Ah yes, that's perfect!

 

Twitter seems like a great way to shoot yourself in the foot.

 

What does Kickstarter have to do with this?
Companies are made up of people, most of the people have no control or bearing on the company as a whole.
So this person is an idiot, again what does this have to do with Kickstarter?

Now if they went out and said, sure we support this, we are all racists here, then I see your point. That is most likely her last day, no company would keep her on board.

 

Dont think thats a big deal, some interesting experiment on racism:

Whats IS a big deal to me is that only people from few countries in the world can start their project on KS and THAT is a better reason to boycott KS(THAT is a true discrimination by KS). I`m from a third worldish country so I can`t publish there, that made me to think twice before I back anything.

 

I'd like to point out that racist slurs directed at me have absolutely no effect, absolute zero, and I'm not sure why that is. I suspect it's because for me, racism is illogical. So it's just someone being illogical and meaningless. Obviously, other people get sore and that's up to them.

 

Do you identify strongly as any particular race?

I'm a mutt. Partially Hispanic, but don't speak Spanish, which is akin to blasphemy in Hispanic culture. I'm partially Irish/English, but I'm clearly not white. I'm as hairy as a Kardashian and built like a Dwarf. Native am. blood as well. So, I'm lucky to be an outsider because I see clearly what a crock of $#!7 the whole race thing really is. People, in meeting me, ask me "what are you" (literally). They need you to pick a side so the stereotypes can fly. If you don't identify, you're shunned.

Most people will never know what I'm talking about. Which is awesome.

I've been mistaken for Jewish, Arabic, Brazilian (Portuguese), and Armenian... So you can get a real nice picture of what I'm saying. You've never stared into their eyes when they don't know what box to put you in. They're hollow children, the racists, scared little people who don't understand the big crazy world happening all around them. They wouldn't make it on their own, without their precious race to shelter and nurture them. This goes for all races, everywhere. Black, white, Mexican, Indian, Jewish... It's all group think, it's all looking out for their own kind. It's hilarious and sad.

 

Yes I identify proudly as someone from England. I don't subscribe to colour.

I still lack the ability to be offended even if someone mocks my birth country. Because if someone did, they would simply lack intelligence and be wrong.

This isn't a superiority complex, it's a simple fact.

 

We adopted a multiracial infant and at that moment, our family ceased to be white. I dealt with racism for the first time in my life and it was not fun. It was a very new experience for me, especially as I live in the south now. Many of my perceptions changed.

However, any community manager who tweets divisive comments, whether they be racially based, political, religious, or whatever deserves to be fired. Geesh. A community is people of all colors and all backgrounds. She knows that...or should know that.

 

I feel you Teila, my daughter is treated differently by so-called normal people, they want to know the race, etc. It wouldn't be so bad if they had the balls to admit to being racists, but they're wormy about it. I just marvel at their simpleton ways.

I think a lot of the race issue comes down to the superior station of western Europeans, and Caucasians in general in the world. America is the most militarily secure nation and along with our western allies, we rule the world... as in, the combined military forces of the world could not compromise the sovereignty of the US at this point. In WW2, we were on thin ice... now, we've added air superiority to our checklist. And that's really it, in the world's view Americans are white, so whites rule the world.

So there's envy.

It's hard for white people minding their own business, not trying to be perceived as condescending, arrogant, etc. They're already judged that way by minorities. It also doesn't help that a good portion of whites are extremely, incomprehensibly racist behind closed doors. It also, also doesn't help that there's a website called Stormfront. So yeah, white people have quite a mountain of bigotry to sweep under the rug.

But, if you know where to look, what books to read, etc. You can find minority racist materials, calling whites "the devil" etc.

This girl, though, is apparently unaware that she just wrote this on the internet... not in some asian american cultural club/church where they can pretend things like this aren't said.

In all, everybody is racist, admitting it takes testicular fortitude and moving past it is humanity's next evolutionary task.

 

Everyone is sexist, too.

 

If you think you're not you can take a test.

 

Stereotypes are real time savers

Related:
http://www.amazon.com/Blink-The-Power-Thinking-Without/dp/0316010669

 

Not true. I regularly make 2D and iso games.

 

Ba dum tsssss....

 

Same here, I suppose, for me a least, it depends on whether I respect the person making the comment or, as in most cases, don't give a S*** about them.

Sexist remarks however get to me more. I hate being pigeon-holed as part of 'all men'. It p's me right off as some women can be quick to play the sexist card but don't realise/care they're being sexist themselves.

 

Yes they should. If it has negative effects on the companys image they will most likely follow the easy way out and fire the racist sjw. Job done.

 

What? Suey Park is back in the spotlight?

#Racism

 

Thought: Is it possible that this person is joking? (Granted, a joke with extremely poor taste) All I saw from that article was one conversation and another off-hand comment, that, in isolation, wouldn't be particularly offensive. As a rule, I don't get upset by things unless I see that thing as part of a pattern, and I simply don't see that here. Yet.

Disclaimer: I am white. (In case you're wondering, though, my avatar is not a picture of me)