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Blackberry plugins?

Discussion in 'BlackBerry' started by EvilDingo, Aug 6, 2013.

  1. EvilDingo

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    Is there any documentation on how to make Blackberry plugins? I can't release any of my free games because I have no way to monetize them with in-app purchases or ads.
     
  2. dberroa

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    I am also interested in this. I came here to make this very topic and saw this one. I also feel it would not be good to release a game without ads as the initial release is when you get the most downloads.
     
  3. zezba9000

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    Making a BB10 .so library isn't to hard, but what is the Plugin folder name in Unity i'm supposed to put it in??
    I need to invoke natice C methods via "[DllImport ("__Internal")]"
    This should be in the FAQ or something...

    Anyone figure this out yet??
     
  4. AlexThibodeau

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  5. EvilDingo

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    zezba9000, if you make any plugins, I'm your first customer. :)

    What I'm interested in:

    - Scoreloop
    - BlackBerry in-app purchases
    - AdMob

    With those I could make my Blackberry games on-par with their Android and iOS counterparts.
     
  6. zezba9000

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    Thank you AlexThibodeau, that helps a lot.
    Iv'e downloaded the demo and will take a look :)
     
  7. zezba9000

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    Yes EvilDingo, I plan on making a fairly platform agnostic plugin for a various amount of items in the future when I get a little more time.
    When I get around to it, i'll post back here as I would plan on supporting all the things you suggested ;)
     
  8. dberroa

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    How do you make the .so file?

    And I thought admob didn't exist for blackberry. Is that true?
     
  9. zezba9000

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    Ok this is to help others get started.

    The simplest way to make a Native .so lib for BlackBerry is to download and install "Momentics IDE" for BB10.
    2) Go to "File/New/BlackBerry Project", and select "Library" then "Shared".
    3) Add a new file called "main.cpp".
    4) Add this test code:
    5) Set the build config to "Device-Release" and Build the proj.
    6) Copy the "MyRandomLib.so" file to "Plugins/BlackBerry/libs/" folder in Unity.
    7) Make a "TestScript.cs" file and copy the test code:
    When you run the app it should print out "YAHOO 1: 135".
     
  10. Extrawurst

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    Great! Thanks for those instructions!
     
  11. christinam

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    We are currently working on the BlackBerry plugin docs which should be out in the next release!
     
  12. Nelson1452

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    Thanks zebra for that. Helped me get started off quick.
     
  13. dberroa

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    I don't suppose as to if I can be so bold as to request help with making ads via the Blackberry Advertising SDK.

    I would love to release a free game on the store for the Unity Pro contest to get Blackberry Pro for free, but as everyone knows, the initial downloads are the most important. If I don't have ads on it then, I'll miss out on revenue as opposed to adding them in an update later.

    Does anyone have a library/dll already built that allows us to add Ads? I haven't written any Blackberry apps yet so I don't know it at all and may not be able to learn it in time for the contest. If someone could post the library project so we can make our dll that would be most helpful.

    Would anyone like to share?

    Thank you.
     
  14. Nelson1452

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    I'm in the same boat. Got plugins working fine, but not sure how to access the screen created by Unity to create ads. Need plugin docs badly...
     
  15. Extrawurst

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  16. zezba9000

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    I'm guessing an exposed "screen_window_t" object is located somewhere in "libBB10Export.so".
    If we knew what the method name was, we could pInvoke it to get back the "screen_window_t" object ref.

    If you build a .bar file, change to .zip and extract... you will find the "libBB10Export.so" file.
     
  17. appxplore-tech

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    Currently I am planning to writing plugin for my game. But I found that I dunno how to callback to Unity's GameObject from the native code. I know that in IOS we need UnitySendMessage and so do Android(just include an extra class.jar in Eclipse so that we can compile without error). May i know how to do this in BlackBerry?
     
  18. zezba9000

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    "void UnitySendMessage(const char *, const char *, const char *);" Is located in "libBB10Export.so", and probably has the same method signature as the one iOS uses. So you can probably just use "dlopen" to load and invoke the method from "C".
     
  19. appxplore-tech

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    Thanks Zezba9000, I am a bit fresh to BlackBerry and C++ here, is it possible for me to add libBB10Export.so as a library in my library project and include some header then I can just call? Is there any header file for the libBB10Export?

    Basicially I am wondering If i use dlopen means i had to include the libBB10Export.so into my Plugins/BlackBerry/libs/ folder ?(since the dlopen need to point out the path of the lib file)

    P/S: by the way, I did try to get do as you said but it give error "Symbol not found". below is my code:

    typedef void (*UnitySendMessage)(const char* object, const char* func, const char* msg);

    void* handle = dlopen("libBB10Export.so", RTLD_LAZY);
    if (!handle)
    {
    std::cerr << "Cannot open library: " << dlerror() << "\n";
    }

    //reset error
    dlerror();

    UnitySendMessage m_UnityBroadCaster = (UnitySendMessage)dlsym(handle, "UnitySendMessage");
    const char *dlsym_error = dlerror();
    if (dlsym_error)
    {
    std::cerr << "Cannot dlsym: " << dlsym_error << "\n";
    dlclose(handle);
    }
     
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2013
  20. AlexThibodeau

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    You shouldn't have to dlopen the lib. All you need to do is this to have access to UnitySendMessage:

    Code (csharp):
    1. extern "C" {
    2.     extern void UnitySendMessage(const char *, const char *, const char *);
    3. }
     
  21. appxplore-tech

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    Thanks Alex, that really helps me. Thank you.
     
  22. appxplore-tech

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    Here is me again. Currently I had success created shared libraries for normal functions. But I am facing plenty of problem while trying to compile a shared libraries that will show a Native UI dialog. Can anyone give me some step by step or hints or point me to articles that can do this?
     
  23. appxplore-tech

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    Finally I manage to show the UI dialog by using the Core library and not the cascade library. phew~
     
  24. chandu125

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    I am also in same boat...i feel very tired about this...did u get any new information recording this one?
     
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  26. appxplore-tech

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    Hi,

    did anyone has any clues on including some QT or cascades library in the Plugin that made ourselves?
     
  27. zezba9000

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    This is NOT possible.
    Cascades uses a library that conflicts with std. Unity is most probably using std and thus makes this one of the most complicated issues for BB10 plugins as the plugins must all use the BB10 Native"C" API that sometimes is NOT documented all the way.
     
  28. appxplore-tech

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    Thanks zezba9000 for answering my question.

    I decided to use the Core Native Library to do some BBM Social Platform but unfortunately I always face some unknown symbols runtime error when I try to call the functions inside BBM Social Platform. I think it might be caused by the libbbmsp.so is not included when I am compiling my library file. I think of a way to grab the libbbmsp.so and it's realname library libbbmsp.so.1 from the application Momentics and put inside the /Plugins/Blackberry/libs/ folder but it seems didn't work too. Is there any tricks or tips in order to do this? Or is it a better way to include the BBM Social Platform features in Unity3d?
     
  29. zezba9000

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    If you're going to use the NDK "C" stuff, you need to use "DllImport" invoke stuff from C# so it loads the library for you... Or you're going to get runtime linking errors.
     
  30. appxplore-tech

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    Thanks zezba9000,
    Mayb I need to clarify my question:

    below is my cpp file for the sharedlibrary project
    Code (csharp):
    1.  
    2. #include <bbmsp/bbmsp.h>
    3. #include <bbmsp/bbmsp_context.h>
    4. #include <bps/bps.h>
    5. #include <stdio.h>
    6.  
    7. /* Some simple logging */
    8. #define LOG(fmt, args...)   do { fprintf(stdout, "[Plugin] " fmt "\n", ##args); fflush(stdout); } while (0);
    9.  
    10. extern "C"
    11. {
    12.     void BB_initBBM()
    13.     {
    14.         LOG("registerBbm");
    15.  
    16.             bps_initialize();
    17.             LOG("before register BBM %d", bbmsp_get_access_code());
    18.                 bps_shutdown();
    19.     }
    20. }
    21.  
    here is the functions that I called when I am in Unity3d
    Code (csharp):
    1.  
    2. using UnityEngine;
    3. using System.Collections;
    4. using System.Runtime.InteropServices;
    5.  
    6. public class BBMManager : MonoBehaviour
    7. {
    8.     [DllImport ("BBMLibrary")]
    9.     private static extern void  BB_initBBM();
    10.    
    11.     public void init()
    12.     {
    13.         BB_initBBM();
    14.     }
    15. }
    16.  

    when I called the init() function and I get the log i found error as below:
    Code (csharp):
    1.  
    2. unknown symbol: bbmsp_get_access_code
    3. unknown symbol: bbmsp_get_access_code
    4. unknown symbol: bbmsp_get_access_code
    5. unknown symbol: bbmsp_get_access_code
    6.  
    It seems like Unity3d didn't have the BBMSP library so I get the libbbmsp.so and paste into UnityProject's Plugin/Blackberry/libs/ folder but it still give me the same runtime error. Is there any solution for solving this? or another better implementation method?

    Thank you.
     
  31. zezba9000

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    What I mean is you must wrap the native SDK and do everything in C#:

    That way it will load "libbps.so" for you.
     
  32. appxplore-tech

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    Oh! This is another solution. Thanks zezba9000, I haven't try and will try it ASAP. Thank you.
     
  33. appxplore-tech

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    Hi zezba9000,

    After I try to wrap the libbmmsp.so into my c# code I get the error message as below.... It seems like the library is also depends on other library. If I want to wrap the libbmmsp.so, I also need to wrap some QObject library and it seems like it's a QTObject....

    The message I received:
    Code (csharp):
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  34. zezba9000

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    Like I said, you "Can't" use QT/Cascades stuff with Unity because one of there standard libraries conflicts with "std".
    I know its stupid and will make you're life hell, but I don't think there is anything you can do about it at this point.
     
  35. McKrackeN

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    Hi zezba9000,

    Is there any way to implement a BBM plugin at all? Because if it depends on QT library, we're doomed...

    Thanks!
     
  36. zezba9000

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    Yes it is possible and I have one almost done. But plugins must use the Native "C" SDK and its hell to write in some areas.
     
  37. McKrackeN

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    EDIT: First of all... are you going to publish it for sale? :p

    Do you have an ETA? We're starting to implement it now, so I don't know if we have to continue with it or just wait a few more days.
     
  38. zezba9000

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    I am probably going to have it submitted this weekend, and it will take a couple days next week for it to get approved.
    What features did you need the plugin to do?
    The first release of my BB10 Plugin will support almost everything that my Win8/WP8 one does: Link

    Which is:
    - Ads (NOTE: BB10 Native ads Fill-Rate seems impossibly bad right now).
    - InApp purchases.
    - File Saving (Local data files, Pictures)
    - File Picker (For Image file Picking).
    - Send Email
    - Alert Message boxes.
     
  39. McKrackeN

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    We need the BBM social API. Is that something that you're planning to add to the plugin?
     
  40. zezba9000

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    Which social features are you referring to?
    Scoreloop social features or BlackBerry Messenger social features?
    My plan is to add in more requested features, so i'm sure that would be one of them.
     
  41. McKrackeN

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    We're looking for BlackBerry Messenger social features like invite friends to play, broadcast achievements and that kind of stuff.
     
  42. zezba9000

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    Then yes I plan on supporting it.
    The only issue I might run into is it looks like it "may" make you to listen for events in an async fashion, this may be a problem if Unity swallows the event.
    Normally you block the event system after you que something to wait for an event. Will have to look at the API to make sure you que something before asking about the event... if thats the case then it will work out just fine.

    My best guess is the later and everything will go smoothly.

    EDIT: Don't have an ETA though.
     
    Last edited: Sep 19, 2013
  43. Extrawurst

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  44. McKrackeN

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    Okay... thanks! :)
     
  45. appxplore-tech

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    Hi Zezba,

    I just used 1 function called "bbmsp_get_access_code" but I still get the error I mention. Is there any library that doesn't contains any QT Library inside. Or is there a trick in Unity that can load the non-QT version of libbbmsp.so?

    Thanks.
     
  46. zezba9000

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    Not sure, its possible a different lib needs to be loaded first.
     
  47. McKrackeN

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    I'm on the same boat here. I haven't been able to use any of the functions of libbbmsp.so. Is it even possible to make a BBM plugin without linking that library? It's very frustrating...
     
  48. zezba9000

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    You probably have to link to "libbbmsp.so.1" via C#.
    The scoreloop lib requires this as well for some reason. Think something minor is broken on BB10 for these libs and dynamic linking. But not sure.
     
    Last edited: Oct 3, 2013
  49. zezba9000

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    Hey EvilDingo, just came out with a plugin that support BB10 Ads: http://u3d.as/content/reign-studios/reign-bb10-support/5ys
     
  50. SpacePixel

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    The introductory offer of $30 doesn't work when buying with Euros.
    $30 = roughly £18.50 but it's listed as €28.50 which is £23.