Black or dark ? (Trying no't to be rasist)(closed)

Em to put simple im making card game right now and im quiet troubled , to put simple , im making wolf type monster i would name a black wolf , i know in many games black in names are often cenzured soo should i change name to the dark wolf ? or should i keep it as black wolf?
I'm just making sure no't to be rasist.

 

African American Wolf to be safe.

 

That's obnoxious I think. I hope you weren't joking and merely spoke in ignorance.

A black <anything> when you're using colours isn't racist and never will be. Black is not something anyone needs to avoid. It is like a Black Cat or Black Car.

Just use common sense. If it is not about a colour, then you will probably want to elaborate much more for clearer advice.

 

No, it was a joke.

 

Thanks man I'm quiet new in making games, i finaly got game type idea i wanted to make after trial and erros and just wanted to make sure to make something stupid that would offend people or i would get cenzured i just don't want to get into drouble.

 

Black.

Whoever sees wolf color as racist would be an idiot.

 

Dark Wolf sounds sinister, if that is what you are going for.

 

Sorry .

 

<Anything> needs to exclude humans though. I feel ashamed that we were made to play "Who's Afraid Of The Black Man" in elementary PE. That children game DOES have a strongly racist background and I'd suggest to avoid reminiscence of such things in a game nowadays.

That said, with animals you should be relatively on the safe side, but personally I'd still avoid it as there are more creative ways to incite fear (assuming that would be a bad guy) than dark colors.

 

Make the things you want because that's what you like.. Who cares about the habitually offended?

 

Mh, having something you put all your passion in, be hated - even if it's by idiots - is not fun in every case...

 

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I'm so happy to be born in area where white guilt is not a thing.

As a rule of the thumb, no matter what you do there will be at least one person who will love that, and at least one person who will hate your guts for that.

You can please everybody, and there's no point in caring about "habitually offended", like chingwa called t hem. As those people are neither your friends nor customers in the first place.

 

True, but if it's easy to reduce the risk and number of those?.. xP

 

That would be a very wrong thing to do.

When you comply with the wishes of "habitually offended" your give them power over yourself.
You empower them, make them your boss and master and grant them authority to dictate your actions and butcher your project. And that's what those people wanted in the first place - power.

Also, living of fear of making impossible to please people upset and fearfully listening to their every whim is not the kind of life I'd personally want to live.

 

Oh c'mon Mr. Rebellion...

 

It is not "rebellion", it is common sense and a suggestion to put yourself first instead of trying to please people that will hate your guts anyway.

 

Yer quick to act compassionate yet you wished I were not on this planet [dead?] for simply having scientifically informed opinion about the flux of climate. Yet I live nowhere near you, cannot alter the form of your government, do not affect your pocketbook and will probably never meet you other than sa words on a forum where we share use of software. I would like you to reflect on these two disparate stances you hold simultaneously and ask yourself..am I correct in either of them. If finding incorrectness you oughta ask yourself..who put my brain up to such shenanigans and why..to what purpose. If you find correctness in both then carry on. One can certainly ignore reality but not the consequences of ignoring reality.

 

How good that this forum has an ignore feature. It's useful against trolls

 

*sighs* I'll be blunt.

You contacting ippdev privately during that one disagreement was you being in the wrong.
Sure at the time you felt strongly about the disagreement, angry and offended.
However, when you feel strongly about something, feel anger or are "offended", you are not really thinking rationally, because strong emotions suppress ability to reason.
And if that state of mind happens often when your beliefs are involved, that's a good reason to stop and think hard about it.

Lots of harm has been done during history of mankind by people acting in the name of greater good. And that's why they say the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Sadly, these days many groups prefer to feel strongly and not think. And "habitually offended" are part of those.

 

Yep, I can't stand the guy but if you're going beyond a public discussion, you're immediately putting yourself in the offensive position.

 

Thanks for all the commends.
I will be perfectyl honest with you.
I live in Poland . I literly almost never see people of different color here , I literly don't know whau to act.
I literly never interacted with people of different skin color face to face. I don't know what to say or do.
I kinda know history that black people were misstreaded olmost by everybody until they got eqaul right but ther are still people who are rasit.
And second thing i kinda saw persona 1 game where in english version black man was completly bleached or in yugioh cards that have often wierd or heavy cenzur ship on cards .
To put simple , what is a line that should no't be crossed when making games .
This is literly first every game I'm making in my life after trials and errors in procces of learing . I want to make abolutly sure that it i don't cross the lina should no't be crossed at any cost .
And thanks to all of you for your commends I finnaly got aswer.

 

the only thing that really matters is intent. if you say something and somebody is really upset, you can just apologize and say, "I didn't know."

If they still are upset after an apology, they have a personal issue - nothing to do with you.

If somebody wants to go to war against your game because they think there is something offensive even though there is not, that's free publicity.

 

Stop making big deal of it. We all people. Just speak to the person as any other. If start thinking about it as if from other nation, color, or planet and get panicking, because person is different, that where your issue lies.

If you want to learn about cultural differences, go abroad. You will quickly learn, it is completely irrelevant arbitrary issue.

Same with game making. Stop caring what some random individual says. Just do it.

 

They're humans like you. Act like you would towards any other human.

It was other way around. Back in the day US didn't care about foreign games being localized properly. Original persona game was butchered during US localization. They moved the events from japan into usa, renamed most of the characters and made one character black even though he was originally japanese.

Spoiler

Original designs at the top, "localized" designs at the bottom

Ironically that made some moments in the game sound racist.

 

Wait it was other way around???
I thought it was that he was orginaly a black and then turned white...
Wow i literly made my self look like total retard huh?
I though he was orginaly black and then he got swaped.
Am i retarded that much?

 

Yes.

Nope, he was originally asian and got swapped to black.

 

Nothing wrong with "black wolf", but since we're on the topic of words that might accidentally offend someone, you'll want to avoid using the word "retarded" in your game altogether.

 

Uhm, what the heck?
I have not contacted anyone privately on this forum at all except for one person who wanted my mail for an asset voucher.