Best shader solution for "unreal" results

Hello,
I am wondering... I can to unity 5 from unreal 4. I find that unreal projects break too easily, and documentation is more plentiful for unity.

I am wondering. when unreal is compared to unity, it is usually unreal 4.x to unity 4.x. Which in my opinion is grossly unfair.

In my game that I am making... what do I need to make the quality shaders much like unreal 4?
I am just getting started. I am wondering, is the standard shader or lux fitting the bill?

Or will i need a shader maker such as shader forge (which I have taken a few classes on) or shader sandwich?

Or is alloy the best all in one solution??
Please help!
I don't want to blow money on assets if the unity 5 standard shader will fit the bill.

Thank you for any help offered
--Joshua

 

Just wait for 5.3 then it will (almost) 1:1 with marmoset and painter. If you can't wait or need more features, use Alloy.

Also, you'll find that to get the most out of Unity, you'll need a decent Post like Scion.

 

Can confirm scion is good

 

so basically everything is in the post processing and not the shaders?

 

So basically you didn't read what I posted?

 

Built in shaders + Scion.

 

I'll wait before plunking down cash for sure. Thank you!

 

I honestly think if you just make really good textures the standard sharder produces exactly what you need. But then again, the textures have to be exceptionally great.

I do have the 5.3 beta, man I love the Screen Space Reflections, I took it and put it in my 5.2 for my main project haha.
But I mean, I am fairly happy with the Standard Shader. I mean yeah could use work, but it's 5 leagues ahead of 4x series of Unity. But I still stand by my belief that exceptional textures = exceptional results by far more than anything.

 

I'm really digging Uber so far, but I guess whether you need it or not depends on whether or not you plan on using any of the features it brings above and beyond the standard shader. I also found a shader floating around on the forums somewhere that allows you to switch Unity to use GGX shading, which is one of the big things comes in 5.3. That really helps a lot because the default Blinn-Phong doesn't look as good when compared to modern games.

I spent the $40 or whatever it was on the SSR from Plawius. I'm kinda excited to see how Unity's implementation stacks up, performance and appearance-wise. But if I end up using it, I think it'd be the only image effect from them that I don't replace with third party ones. They really don't have a great track record with bringing quality image effects.

 

From what I can tell (unless thigns change) it doesn't render the bottoms or tops of objects on a reflection.
Example ( I have a cube in the air above a 100% shiny plane that reflects, it won't render the bottom of the box but it will with the sides.

But like I mentioned, that may have changed now or will change, idk.

 

What's changing in 5.3?

 

You can read the release notes on the download page. https://unity3d.com/unity/beta

 

That temporal AA should be shifted to the top of the pile...

 

Yeah I agree. I need it for VR as pixel artefacts mess things up. So it needs to be fast too

 

I... uh... bah...

Best shader solution for "Unreal" results, are the shaders that unreal comes with.

Otherwise, if you want "better" results, you should be at the very least be able to identify the way you want your results to be better.

 

I found a really good substance pack for sci fi, and my first game was going to be scifi themed, on a starship. Sop no nature shaders needed.

 

I never said anything about nature lol.

 

At least not Unity's standard shader.
That fresnel from certain angles is just horrible. And plenty of other issues.

 

The main issue is wondering if the game that I will be working on will look the way that I intended. Having gone from unreal to unity, I am just starting out/ I just want to ensure that I am not using the wrong tools