Any update on phrasing of 'Personal Edition'?

No, definitely not.

 

Clearly this was the case...lol Aurore, you may not be privy, or simply a good solider who falls in line with what has come down from the top, but this was a purposeful, calculated decision. To say it wasn't is disingenuous and frankly not giving the decision makers their due. The tagline might have easily been worded 'suckling freely on the tit of those who paid'; the implication is the same. It's quite clever. Like when a mom tells an older sibling to share his cookies, so he does, but not before giving the a good lick in front of his little brother or sister. Anyone can have the tools, sure...but we're gonna make sure it's clear to everyone that you didn't buy em. Will folk still eat those delicious cookies although UT licked em? Of course they will...what's a little spit between friends.

I don't fault a company for using a left-handed approach to 'the democratization of gaming' but clearly anyone who was originally trying to look professional as they worked toward being able to purchase Pro has been marked with a Scarlet letter. And anyone who purports that this wasn't the intent of this move is posing or gullible.

Other Engine companies may take their due utilizing different financial models, but at least that don't seek to make you feel second class while while you grow a fledgling business. Just sayin'.

 

So....I have a question along these lines then. Can you still pay $75 (or whatever) for a month of Unity Pro, build your game without splashscreen -- sell it commercially, and be happy?

Or am I mistaken?

 

Mostly right. Licencing stuff is all correct, it is more expensive for mobile devices. But some people will never be happy.

 

I was talking about android/ios pro, which as far as I know is just the removal of a splash screen.

 

If that is the case, I have no problem then.

 

Unfortunately for this approach, there's a minimum subscription person- can't remember if it's a year or two years, but you can't pay $75 for a single month.

 

Why would you be thankful for this update?

 

Because he asked for an update and received one? Don't be rude now.

 

Although I agree about "Personal" being a bit incorrect phrasing, for said reasons, its sort of growing on me.

 

Think of the time, money & customer satisfaction you'd save if you left that up to some kind of community vote.

The only problem there is that 'Sandwich Edition' was clearly going to win.

 

Quick reminder what the splash screen debate topic and the feedback were about before trolls took over:

It is not about the color scheme of the editor. This is irrelevant.
It is not about re-naming the "Personal Edition" to something else.
It is not about completely removing the splash screen from the personal edition.
It is not about the color of the splash screen. It actually looks great.
It is not about politics or fights between trolls that broke out in the later pages.

All that was asked, is to change this:



into this:



The ONLY thing that people are asking for, is to remove that ugly subtext saying "Personal Edition" on the splash screen. Nothing else.


You have over 3600 votes on the feedback to change a text that you can fix in 30 seconds. It's actually the most active feedback since unity 5.

Why is this so hard?

 

@orionburcham

Waffles are red, violets are blue.

 

OR, change the "Personal Edition" to a simple "PE" just for the splash screen? This still gives the different branding. Y/N?

 

Made with Unity Pee? Maybe not.

 

Agreed. That's a shift from feminine freshness to macho man big P. Maybe we can have an application run separetly from unity to just turn off monitors / screens until the game starts...

 

acronymfinder

What does PE stand for?
PE stands for Personal Edition

 

Not everyone can stand to PE

 

I still vote for indie version or something - but it doesn't seem like it'll ever change.

However, I said Unity will never give away all of the pro features. "It'll never change" I said.

So hopefully Unity will surprise me twice.

 

I thought they had decided to call it the CEO Edition for all those CEO out there. Or 'Democracy is confused with whining to your parents until they give in Edition'.

 

It's not changing but it's nice that people get to vent into the interwebs.

 

Let the flow of Personal Edition jokes never cease.

 

For me the saddest thing is when I was told that 3,600+ votes isn't 'representative' of the Unity Community, because 'people can add more than one vote'. Guys, you designed the feedback system. It's the number three voted issue.

The cognitive dissonance is real.

 

It isn't representative of the community. Most of the free users don't care. Its just a small vocal minority of complainers. I'm pretty sure any statistically rigorous poll would show this.

The fact that the voting is broken on the feedback section is another issue.

 

I'm a bit dissappointed, i hoped that 'personal' non-commercial meaning was simply overlooked by unity (i dont care if there is any Edition word; this could be Standard Edition, indie edition or whatever), but seems that this was calculated, and really sorry @Aurore with all respect for ur work i dont belive in ur statement, for me this look more like 'damage control' rather than truth. Because if luring people to PRO wasnt the case then why not Standard Edition, why not Indie Edition, and so on, and so on.... dont belive that noone in unity was aware of a bit negative meaning of 'personal' (especially in software world).

I guess i have to deal with it and reevaluate situation

@BoredMormon

but you see, some people which dont understand why we complained about this word, tell us that noone care about one word: this is not true, see feeback: in worst case there was 360 people voted, which isnt much BUT keep in mind not everyone put 10 points AND this is higher than 'few' people mentioned by 'non-complainers'

 

People that don't care and simply vote for nothing are irrelevant though.

 

No, actually that was my point.

 

LMAO!

 

Not something they are going to change until they see an advantage in it.

 

I do think there should be something between free and 1500$. That's a pretty big difference, and its not 1500$, its like 4500 by the time you buy the addons. I would have paid a couple of hundred bucks for post effects in 4.0 if I had the option, but 1500 for a hobby is a bit much.

I have no real issue with the splash screen, but I don't ever really think I'll finish my game, so it probably will never apply to me.

 

UT is a smart company with smart folk working for it and running it. The decision was calculated and implemented to itch in the craw on any non Pro user. They found a way to battle Epic's 'give it away' strategy in the most unpalatable way they could devise. It is quite clever. I wonder if the the Free version was reoffered (sans the Pro features and the 'personal monicker, )how many would fall back... Quite a few I imagine. Which is why they never will. Pay up or live tagged as 'personal'. Bravo...

 

$300 no-splash-screen-edition?

@abvabv I loved the icon for their free edition haha!

 

You can still download previous versions.

http://unity3d.com/get-unity/download/archive

 

Here is a free apple. Its green. Take it or leave it. But until you are paying for it please don't ask for the colour to be changed. I like the colour of my apple. If you pay me for the apple, then you can make demands on the colour of the apple I supply.

PS you can also have half a red apple for free if you must have a free red apple.

 

You can't really say the same about oranges..well we would be comparing apples and oranges!

 

Sure why not. If you want it free then you get the splash screen. If you want it without the spash screen (and maybe dark skin) then you can pay 300$. That's not a lot of money to make you game more professional looking and its a one time price.

I can only say that I, and most likely all the other hobbyists are absolutely thrilled with what is offered with unity pee.

 

Which should absolutely be what everyone calls it if they want to pressure a name change.

 

LOL.

I will say the same about Unity software. Point is, while personal users represent a large fraction of Unity's customer base, they represent a small fraction of the revenue stream.

 

I don't agree. My credit card statement shows that I've most likely bought a couple of unity licenses with unity's portion of what I've spent on the asset store. Daily sale junkie here.

 

Does any of this really matter? So far I've only seen Unity Developers complain about this, and that's it. I haven't seen wave after wave of players posting "I would have bought this game if it didn't say Personal Edition" or "Personal Edition on the short splash screen really detracts from the entire game."

 

Players don't tend to waste their time posting. They simply move to a new game.

 

There are also pro users addicted to sales. On the other hand there are users like me who have not spent a cent on Unity or the asset store. I could be wrong. But I'm guessing that in the aggregate the pro users spend more then the free users.

 

Some times i think, what happens with the Unity team?

 

Unity's asset store doesn't make a significant portion of their sales by any means. They've stated this multiple times.

 

That is true that most don't take the time and just move on. I would be willing to bet, however, that the type of player that is going to hold a splash screen with "Personal Edition" against the game, is likely the type to be vocal about it.

 

As you indicate, the business decision is pretty simple. Is a splash screen going to cost you 4.5 k in revenue?

Chances are if your sales are going to be that high that a simple flash screen looses you that much revenue then you need to buy pro anyway.

 

Saying it doesn't make it true. It could be true, but I have a hard time believing there are that many people buying 1500$ licenses. Maybe they have other revenue streams, but 30% of each daily asset special has to be significant. I don't know how many sales a daily special generates, but if it was 10$ * 1000, then its 10k gross, 3k a day straight to unity. Maybe 2 people a day buy a pro license, but I wouldn't bet on it. That's just napkin math obviously, who knows what the real numbers are. Micro-transactions are the revenue source of the future, that's why everyone is doing it.

 

This part of the analogy intrigues me.

Agreed. I gave up on game design as a job (I'd love to do it, but I probably won't), so now this & the STEM system are all for my own amusement while I go seek a desk job and a future where I contemplate how horrible my life & job are every November 2nd.

That being said, the splash screen doesn't bother me. I am not that shallow, I wouldn't care if it said Unity x Edition where x is any word in a list of words I think I would (should) be banned for saying on this forum. It's just a word that precedes an application.

If anything, if that disturbs users then your game will be received even better by comparison to the off-putting splash screen, thus making personal edition the superior and more profitable edition, thus UT shoots itself in the foot.

 

Reference to using 4.6 free just to get rid of the word personal. It's a legitimate way to shoot yourself in the foot.

The colloquial phrase here would be 'cutting off your nose to spite your face'